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Subject: Torque Bow similar weapon in Halo Reach...Please...

Perception is everything.

I do not, in any way, shape, form, or cake want halo to turn into a game similar to gears AT ALL!? I do, however, think it would be cool to include a weapon similar to the torque bow. Basically, it would charge like the spartan laser, and would not go through more than one person. Ammo would be increased because of that. It could be covenant themed, and maybe a plasma grenade would be included on the end of it, making it extra sticky for the foe's you are shooting at. It would also make campaign more intense. Imagine instead of jackal snipers shooting at you from the distance, they are jackal archers. Sound cool?

  • 06.06.2009 2:56 PM PDT
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no, and way to contradict yourself, you don't want Halo: Reach to be like gears AT ALL, but you want something like the torque bow.

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Posted by: jesus u jew
no, and way to contradict yourself, you don't want Halo: Reach to be like gears AT ALL, but you want something like the torque bow.
This. The Torque Bow wouldn't work at all with Halo games because without an extensive cover system like the Gears series has, the "Plasma Bow" would be a juggernaut of a weapon that would be universally hated.

Unless the bolt fired from said weapon was slow as all hell, which would be interesting to see. Regardless, it wouldn't be worth it.

  • 06.06.2009 3:00 PM PDT

this is a retarded idea. halo takes place in the future. in the future there are really cool guns, guns that make bows obsolete.

  • 06.06.2009 3:00 PM PDT

Perception is everything.

Posted by: jesus u jew
no, and way to contradict yourself, you don't want Halo: Reach to be like gears AT ALL, but you want something like the torque bow.
I want a bow that charges up and shoots a deadly grenade. This is the only similarity. When I said at all, I was referring to the gameplay...ya know, 3rd person, tactical shooter, a bunch of other junk. It would basically be the covenant version of the spartan laser.

  • 06.06.2009 3:03 PM PDT

its called a splazer...

  • 06.06.2009 3:06 PM PDT

Posted by: xZcNx MarcWagz
its called a splazer...

It really isn't.

  • 06.06.2009 3:08 PM PDT

Perception is everything.

Ok people, you love the spartan laser, but you hate this idea. I want you to try and push past the thickness in your skull, and think about how this would be the perfect counter of the laser. Here we have the laser. You charge it up. It shoots a big red beam. The big red beam kills everything it hits and goes through it. Not that much ammo. Here we have the plasma bow. You charge it up. It shoots an arrow with a nade on it at pretty high speed and dead accuracy. It hits the target. The target blows up. The arrow stops. Those dangerously close may loose some health. Some vehicles may survive the first shot, so shoot them again. It is very similar to the laser in the way it works, and would be the perfect covenant counter to the deadly human weapon. And you ask, why would we need a bow? It's the future! We can use guns! If a bows more powerful than your average gun, why not use a bow? This might not be needed, because a laser and a plasma bow would of course make the map to overpowered...unless maps get bigger, and teams get bigger. Then, when one side of the map is human weapons, and the other side is covenant, and the covenant needs something to counter the humans precious laser...who are they gonna call? No! Not ghostbusters! They are going to call on the plasma bow. And even if maps don't get that big, the plasma bow would replace the laser in covenant themed maps. Seriously, think about it!

  • 06.06.2009 3:20 PM PDT

If you want us to take you seriously, don't be rude.

  • 06.06.2009 3:21 PM PDT

Perception is everything.

Posted by: Oxford Comma
If you want us to take you seriously, don't be rude.
Have you seen some of the posts in this thread? I was directing the rudeness to the retards who brush off this idea by the slightest thought of it being similar to gears, and posting rude remarks to me before thinking.

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lazer can be long distance if it's in the hands of an expert. A bow, goes half way that distance, ya, it's gonna beat the spartan lazer, not. Plus they have sheilds, so it would take a lot to kill a guy. A headshot maybe, but you'll have to draw it back, not only will that take time, but it also gives them time to notice you. Plus if you don't draw it back far enough, then it won't be effective. GUN BEATS BOW, LAZER BEATS BOW, SPARTAN BEATS BOW!

  • 06.06.2009 3:30 PM PDT

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What?

No...if you want to counter the splazer, use cover and a gun...or run them over...or time the shots and charge...or sneak up...or double team them...or wait for the ammo to run out...or do pretty much whatever. You don't need a whole separate weapon whose entire purpose is to counter the spartan laser.

  • 06.06.2009 3:34 PM PDT

I mean you can't escape a good idea. If the torque bow was awesome, it was awesome. I hope bungie realized that, but at the same time i'd understand if they didn't.

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Posted by: SlayersBane
Posted by: Oxford Comma
If you want us to take you seriously, don't be rude.
Have you seen some of the posts in this thread? I was directing the rudeness to the retards who brush off this idea by the slightest thought of it being similar to gears, and posting rude remarks to me before thinking.

You're the one who wanted the torque bow (a gears weapon) in Halo 3( which won't happen) and contradicting yourself by saying you don't want it to be like gears at all. By the way, if you THOGHT and LOOKED bungie already posted it is going to be a FPS, so it's definitly not going to be like gears

  • 06.06.2009 3:39 PM PDT

Harbinger of Death

No, no he's right. I think they should also throw in that gun from Rachet and Clank that turns people into sheep.

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  • 06.06.2009 3:39 PM PDT

Perception is everything.

Posted by: jesus u jew
lazer can be long distance if it's in the hands of an expert. A bow, goes half way that distance, ya, it's gonna beat the spartan lazer, not. Plus they have sheilds, so it would take a lot to kill a guy. A headshot maybe, but you'll have to draw it back, not only will that take time, but it also gives them time to notice you. Plus if you don't draw it back far enough, then it won't be effective. GUN BEATS BOW, LAZER BEATS BOW, SPARTAN BEATS BOW!
Im pretty sure they could create a bow with a string strong enough to shoot the distance of a laser...and Im pretty sure a spartan could pull it back. Besides, it doesn't have to be realistic. Also, as I stated in my OP, a plasma grenade would be on the end of the arrow. Im pretty sure ive seen plasma grenades take down shields. Again, the idea is not to beat the laser. It's to counter it. It's supposed to take time to pull it back, as the laser is to charge. Drum Freak, You have a point. Weapons aren't always countered with weapons, and don't need to be. You win that argument. All Im saying is it would be a useful option in forge if someone did want a weapon to counter the laser, or if bungie wanted to do this in matchmaking for any reason, like a map where there are towers on each side with a power weapon.

  • 06.06.2009 3:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: Radmire2
No, no he's right. I think they should also throw in that gun from Rachet and Clank that turns people into sheep.

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Actually, that would probably be pretty fun action sack game.

  • 06.06.2009 3:41 PM PDT

Harbinger of Death

Posted by: Drum Fr34k
Posted by: Radmire2
No, no he's right. I think they should also throw in that gun from Rachet and Clank that turns people into sheep.

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Actually, that would probably be pretty fun action sack game.


Haha. True, but I don't think thats what he meant.

  • 06.06.2009 3:44 PM PDT

Perception is everything.

Posted by: jesus u jew
Posted by: SlayersBane
Posted by: Oxford Comma
If you want us to take you seriously, don't be rude.
Have you seen some of the posts in this thread? I was directing the rudeness to the retards who brush off this idea by the slightest thought of it being similar to gears, and posting rude remarks to me before thinking.

You're the one who wanted the torque bow (a gears weapon) in Halo 3( which won't happen) and contradicting yourself by saying you don't want it to be like gears at all. By the way, if you THOGHT and LOOKED bungie already posted it is going to be a FPS, so it's definitly not going to be like gears
Yes, me being the halo nerd I am, knew as soon as it was announced that it was a FPS. As I already stated, I don't want the GAMEPLAY to PLAY similar to gears at ALL. The similarity in the weapon was an example so people could get a clear idea of what i mean.

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Posted by: SlayersBane
Posted by: jesus u jew
lazer can be long distance if it's in the hands of an expert. A bow, goes half way that distance, ya, it's gonna beat the spartan lazer, not. Plus they have sheilds, so it would take a lot to kill a guy. A headshot maybe, but you'll have to draw it back, not only will that take time, but it also gives them time to notice you. Plus if you don't draw it back far enough, then it won't be effective. GUN BEATS BOW, LAZER BEATS BOW, SPARTAN BEATS BOW!
Im pretty sure they could create a bow with a string strong enough to shoot the distance of a laser...and Im pretty sure a spartan could pull it back. Besides, it doesn't have to be realistic. Also, as I stated in my OP, a plasma grenade would be on the end of the arrow. Im pretty sure ive seen plasma grenades take down shields. Again, the idea is not to beat the laser. It's to counter it. It's supposed to take time to pull it back, as the laser is to charge. Drum Freak, You have a point. Weapons aren't always countered with weapons, and don't need to be. You win that argument. All Im saying is it would be a useful option in forge if someone did want a weapon to counter the laser, or if bungie wanted to do this in matchmaking for any reason, like a map where there are towers on each side with a power weapon.


Sniper rifle counters lazer
Beam rifle counters lazer
Lazer counters lazer

enough said

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There is nothing worse than someone who can't take criticism when the majority doesn't like their ideas or suggestions.

  • 06.06.2009 3:51 PM PDT

Perception is everything.

Posted by: jesus u jew
Posted by: SlayersBane
Posted by: jesus u jew
lazer can be long distance if it's in the hands of an expert. A bow, goes half way that distance, ya, it's gonna beat the spartan lazer, not. Plus they have sheilds, so it would take a lot to kill a guy. A headshot maybe, but you'll have to draw it back, not only will that take time, but it also gives them time to notice you. Plus if you don't draw it back far enough, then it won't be effective. GUN BEATS BOW, LAZER BEATS BOW, SPARTAN BEATS BOW!
Im pretty sure they could create a bow with a string strong enough to shoot the distance of a laser...and Im pretty sure a spartan could pull it back. Besides, it doesn't have to be realistic. Also, as I stated in my OP, a plasma grenade would be on the end of the arrow. Im pretty sure ive seen plasma grenades take down shields. Again, the idea is not to beat the laser. It's to counter it. It's supposed to take time to pull it back, as the laser is to charge. Drum Freak, You have a point. Weapons aren't always countered with weapons, and don't need to be. You win that argument. All Im saying is it would be a useful option in forge if someone did want a weapon to counter the laser, or if bungie wanted to do this in matchmaking for any reason, like a map where there are towers on each side with a power weapon.


Sniper rifle counters lazer
Beam rifle counters lazer
Lazer counters lazer

enough said

Ok, you got me there. The way I look at it though, is Sniper Rifle=Beam Rifle, Spartan Laser=Plasma bow. Obviously, however, there are other counters to the laser. I still think the idea is cool and would be a good addition to the game. It would be the covenants "pair" to the laser...tired of saying counter. You've established that the plasma bow is not "needed", but I think it would be a handy addition. I think we should stop arguing now that we are at a neutral position.

  • 06.06.2009 3:54 PM PDT

Perception is everything.

I can handle someone criticizing my idea...however, I hate when people insult me directly. This is what angered me...angering me is hard to do.

EDIT:BTW, that was directed to Double Entedre. Not trying to get back in an argument with you Jesus...Okay, that sounded odd...

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  • 06.06.2009 3:56 PM PDT

"If buttered toast lands buttered side down, and cats always land on their feet, then what happens when you attach buttered toast to the back of a cat?

It would fit with the Brute sandbox, because their weapons are the most primitive of the Covenant's but who would want a one shot version of the Brute Shot anyway?

And to the guy that said "I'm pretty sure they could make a bowstring that shoots as far as a laser..." You do know that light travels forever until it reaches an opaque surface, or is sucked into a black hole, don't you? No form of mechanics can launch a projectile as fast or far as light can travel.

[Edited on 06.06.2009 4:00 PM PDT]

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