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Subject: Dear Time Travel Theorists

You all need to stop. Right now.

Time travel will not happen.

I will reference a little novel here called: "Halo: Fall of REACH", by Eric Nylund. This novel is Canon. Nylund has been endorsed multiple times by Bungie, and has multiple novels[Halo: Fall of REACH, Halo: First Strike, Halo: Ghosts of Onyx].

Halo: Fall of REACH details the battles near and on REACH, from the fleet battles and the overwhelming of the UNSC orbital defences, to the overrunning of the UNSC ground forces.

In particular, I'm speaking of Spartan 117's actions in this time frame. John(Spartan 117) was sent to an orbiting station to destroy a ship's intact NAV data(contains information on all human worlds), along with Linda(Spartan 058) and James(Spartan ###)[Chapter 35, Page 306]. In the ensuing events, said NAV data is destroyed, James is flung out into space, John and Linda meet up with several Marines, and Linda goes flatline. Spartan 117 goes back to the Pillar of Autumn with Linda's body, Sergeant Johnson and several Marines. Pillar of Autumn jumps out of the system, cue Halo: Combat Evolved.

During this time, the rest of the Spartans head planet-side to defend key locations, such as the Super MAC platform power generators, and are subsequently overrun.

Assuming Bungie allows this novel to retain its accuracy, and don't essentially say "-blam!- you!" to Nylund, Spartan 117 would not come back in time. Doing so would significantly change several or even most events in the Battle of REACH, possibly changing the outcome, and even possibly preventing Halo: Combat Evolved's events from happening as well.

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Proof of the Halo novels being Canon:
Interview of Joseph Staten by HBO's "Halo Story Page"

HSP: Would the books make the cut?

JS: The books are, for better or worse, part of the canon. In the future we may choose to revise or flat-out ignore some of the less appealing ideas (Johnson's biological immunity to the Flood, for example), but folks should treat them as defining elements of the Halo universe.

Joseph Staten Interview

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I would like to take this time to thank you for reading this all the way through, and hope this can talk some sense into some of you.

In addition, please feel free to point out any inconsistencies or incorrect facts I may have included in this.

-Chicken

  • 06.07.2009 11:02 AM PDT

KEEP IT CLEAN

Thanks for making this, we definitely needed a huge thread to explain to the time travel theorists what is probably happening. It gets annoying listening to them saying that Masterchief traveled back in time at the end of Halo 3...

I'm reading the first Halo novels right now ;)

  • 06.07.2009 11:04 AM PDT

Posted by: JHOX
Here's my advice to you son, its a life lesson you shan't forget.

Some people are like Slinkies. They aren't good for anything in particular, but it still makes you smile when you push them down the stairs

..Well done Chicken..you will go far in this Forum

  • 06.07.2009 11:04 AM PDT

This would be a good time to point out that the US Government seriously did consider nuking the moon during the Cold War as a show of force. Project A119.

"A large explosion on the Terminator line would put the sun behind the mushroom cloud, making the explosion visible with the naked eye from Earth."

Then the US decided they'd just send in Neil Armstrong to land on it. Neil Armstrong - the one man on the earth that was considered a suitable replacement for a nuclear missile.

Posted by: AmazingMilto
..Well done Chicken..you will go far in this Forum

How far do you think he will get before the "theorists" devour him for stating facts of Reach instead of made up nonsense?

  • 06.07.2009 11:06 AM PDT

Without me, it's just "Aweso".

Good job Chicken.

  • 06.07.2009 11:06 AM PDT

Posted by: JHOX
Here's my advice to you son, its a life lesson you shan't forget.

Some people are like Slinkies. They aren't good for anything in particular, but it still makes you smile when you push them down the stairs

Posted by: pawnanism
Posted by: AmazingMilto
..Well done Chicken..you will go far in this Forum

How far do you think he will get before the "theorists" devour him for stating facts of Reach instead of made up nonsense?


...Far Enough

  • 06.07.2009 11:08 AM PDT

I am Field Master Avu Med 'Telcam, Servant of the Abiding Truth, and I have many brothers.

A god who creates tools is still a god. It is not for us to impose qualifications upon the divine or presume to guess its intentions.

Hopefully this one gets noticed chicken, I have seen many of these trying to prevent the time travel theorist, but none have been looked at by them. Still, well done.

  • 06.07.2009 11:08 AM PDT

Thank you.

I'm hoping that we can keep this in the sight of those who make the time travel theories before they post them.

Also take a look at Mike's post on the implausibility of time travel.

  • 06.07.2009 11:11 AM PDT

I'm glad you made this, but you and i both know that people don't really read before they post - your post will get ignored by the masses. Hopefully it stops at least a few.

  • 06.07.2009 11:12 AM PDT

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I'm right 97% of the time. Who cares about the other 4%?

Do you really think you can change the minds of petulant little imbeciles, chicken? That's not likely to happen.

  • 06.07.2009 11:13 AM PDT

This would be a good time to point out that the US Government seriously did consider nuking the moon during the Cold War as a show of force. Project A119.

"A large explosion on the Terminator line would put the sun behind the mushroom cloud, making the explosion visible with the naked eye from Earth."

Then the US decided they'd just send in Neil Armstrong to land on it. Neil Armstrong - the one man on the earth that was considered a suitable replacement for a nuclear missile.

He has many people backing him up. This will not get thrown to the back of he pages.

Posted by: Deidg Nactal
I'm glad you made this, but you and i both know that people don't really read before they post - your post will get ignored by the masses. Hopefully it stops at least a few.

  • 06.07.2009 11:15 AM PDT

Posted by: pawnanism
He has many people backing him up. This will not get thrown to the back of he pages.

Posted by: Deidg Nactal
I'm glad you made this, but you and i both know that people don't really read before they post - your post will get ignored by the masses. Hopefully it stops at least a few.


Oh no that's not what i meant, i agree with it all and everything, and i'll try and keep it on page 1 myself, but it's the issue that we see 4 threads with the identical time travel theory NEXT to eachother shows us that people don't even look at the front page before posting.

I hope i'm wrong.

  • 06.07.2009 11:17 AM PDT

Posted by: Deidg Nactal
Posted by: pawnanism
He has many people backing him up. This will not get thrown to the back of he pages.

Posted by: Deidg Nactal
I'm glad you made this, but you and i both know that people don't really read before they post - your post will get ignored by the masses. Hopefully it stops at least a few.


Oh no that's not what i meant, i agree with it all and everything, and i'll try and keep it on page 1 myself, but it's the issue that we see 4 threads with the identical time travel theory NEXT to eachother shows us that people don't even look at the front page before posting.

I hope i'm wrong.
No, you are not wrong, sadly.

However, I aim to reduce the damage, not fight hopelessly to prevent it. Most of these posters read the topics after they post theirs. This period is when I hope to have them read this. I hope this will help them realize they're incorrect in their assumptions and not post another.

  • 06.07.2009 11:20 AM PDT
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nicely said.
But, I don't think we can rule out time travel just yet.

  • 06.07.2009 12:06 PM PDT

Posted by: komark
nicely said.
But, I don't think we can rule out time travel just yet.


Ok. We're all entitled to our informed opinions. Please tell us why we can't rule out time travel (because, in the absence of any evidence, I've already ruled it out).

  • 06.07.2009 12:11 PM PDT

I am the great devourer.

Because the chiefs frozen pod at the legendary ending of H3 is really a TARDIS!

Rofl, kidding.

Time travel is not part of Halo.

[Edited on 06.07.2009 12:11 PM PDT]

  • 06.07.2009 12:11 PM PDT

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Agreed improbible but not impossable. we already have proof of that. travel in space slows time and black holes take you back two to three years in age. not exactly time travel but getting close.

  • 06.07.2009 12:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: Arashi500
Because the chiefs frozen pod at the legendary ending of H3 is really a TARDIS!


Seriously dude, best idea ever!

Everytime someone creates a time travel thread my palm hits my face followed by my face hitting my desk.

  • 06.07.2009 12:14 PM PDT

Without me, it's just "Aweso".

Posted by: komark
nicely said.
But, I don't think we can rule out time travel just yet.

Yes, but time travel as many people think of it is definetely ruled out The only time a character was sent BACK in time was when two conflicting slipspace generators (a Chrystal and a ship's drive) and this is not considered cannon.Anyone who believes this is clearly ignorant of the facts. Now it IS possible that the Chief was the disturbance of the slipspace stream caused a much longer journey for the chief, which wouldn't affect Reach at all.

  • 06.07.2009 12:53 PM PDT

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Hey, I just noticed that means Linda was on board the Pillar of Autumn with you at the start of Halo :CE!

  • 06.07.2009 12:57 PM PDT

I am the great devourer.

Posted by: DarkGunner93
Posted by: Arashi500
Because the chiefs frozen pod at the legendary ending of H3 is really a TARDIS!


Seriously dude, best idea ever!

Everytime someone creates a time travel thread my palm hits my face followed by my face hitting my desk.


And/or the forerunners are really timelords. (The 'or' is because the pod is human design).

  • 06.07.2009 1:06 PM PDT

Thats me, vile and obsene

i could see a few people thinkin this

But why so many?

  • 06.07.2009 1:07 PM PDT

Time flies like an arrow; fruits flies like a banana.

If only everyone would read this... Nice thread.

  • 06.07.2009 1:08 PM PDT

Thats me, vile and obsene

Bungie did the job right to leave john stranded and mislead all of u into thinkin that planet is gonne be any planet u see from now until we get the answer

  • 06.07.2009 1:12 PM PDT

Posted by: Vigilnt sniper
Agreed improbible but not impossable. we already have proof of that. travel in space slows time and black holes take you back two to three years in age. not exactly time travel but getting close.


Where exactly did you get this from?
Because as of now, we as a people are still clueless to what happens when something goes into a black hole

  • 06.07.2009 1:17 PM PDT