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Subject: Theory: No Time Travel but Reach IS in the Legendary ending

U DO KNOW THAT HALO REACH IS A HAPPENS before halo1

  • 06.08.2009 5:01 PM PDT

sounds reasonable, but why does it have to be the chief that goes back(?) to reach. the spartans that dropped to reach didn't all die, they fought on the surface for some time. the silhouettes in the reach vid aren't all the same so they could be other spartans, but its tough to tell. in the books some of the survivors travel to onyx and survived in the shield world around the time of the activation of ring 004 (halo 1 ring).

  • 06.08.2009 5:10 PM PDT

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U iznt gonna be gettin' reconz cuz of dis nubo.

I like this theory. Good job Sir.

  • 06.08.2009 5:14 PM PDT

No unless Mastercheif is an old man

  • 06.08.2009 5:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ortix
Again over 40 years a lot can change, stars can die and new ones can be born, also light refraction from different stars and the planet's angle can change light color and intensity.
*NOTE* in the star cycle if the red star of reach is a red giant on the brink of death a new blue star can take it's place.


EPIC PHYSICS PHAIL! OMFGWTFZOMFG dude... seriously... in 40 years? new stars can be born?! what the -blam!- are you talking about man.

and NO light is ALWAYS refracted in their respective color when you look through the atmosphere no matter what. It is only ON earth that you see the difference.

Now, the legendary planet is NOT reach. That from the beginning you know the end could simply state that you already know what is going to happen to the chief... or with the people on reach... because you probably read the book. Or it is about the faith of pillar of autumn.

Re think your theory man. It is not reach. The geometric shapes on the planet in the legendary ending are not human. We never (and probably won't for another 1000 years) built geometric shapes that are visible from space. The most geometric we got was a simply town in the shape of a star. The rest is scatter.


kk, a AM wrong about the light refraction
BUT the star is say in the process of birth and somehow coincided with the death of the red giant star, which was in the process of dyeing, once again SUPER LOW percentage, but it COULD happen, and also Im not saying that the creations are human made, I introduced the possibility of a pioneer species that thrives off of the glassed planets

  • 06.08.2009 5:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: Rubber Ducky929
No unless Mastercheif is an old man

. . . . isn't he 60? . . i remember somehow that he is 60 thats where i got my *40* figure from, about 20 at reach, then 40 years to H3

  • 06.08.2009 5:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: devilsrevenge96
Posted by: Rubber Ducky929
No unless Mastercheif is an old man

. . . . isn't he 60? . . i remember somehow that he is 60 thats where i got my *40* figure from, about 20 at reach, then 40 years to H3

oh fak . .i lied . . heez slipspace 42 . . . . dayam . .

  • 06.08.2009 5:28 PM PDT

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It could be that something is on Reach long after its disposal. Reach was a pivotal Forerunner world back when it was used and it's probably a half way point for ships in Slipstream to the Ark. The books and the next Reach game seem like they are all leading to something. The books tell of the ultimate fate of all Forerunners, while the game tells of Reach, of all places for some reason.

  • 06.08.2009 5:56 PM PDT

"We sleep peaceably in our beds, because rough men stand ready to visit violence upon those that wish to do us harm."

"Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of all those who threaten them."

No I believe he's around 40. But your time wouldn't make any sense as Reach and Halo 3 occur in the same year...


Posted by: devilsrevenge96
Posted by: Rubber Ducky929
No unless Mastercheif is an old man

. . . . isn't he 60? . . i remember somehow that he is 60 thats where i got my *40* figure from, about 20 at reach, then 40 years to H3


Oh and a star won't die and form in 60 years, it takes a long time.

  • 06.08.2009 6:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: DarkHalo003
It could be that something is on Reach long after its disposal. Reach was a pivotal Forerunner world back when it was used and it's probably a half way point for ships in Slipstream to the Ark. The books and the next Reach game seem like they are all leading to something. The books tell of the ultimate fate of all Forerunners, while the game tells of Reach, of all places for some reason.

Exactly what Im saying, chief crashes into that "something"

  • 06.08.2009 6:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Precursors
No I believe he's around 40. But your time wouldn't make any sense as Reach and Halo 3 occur in the same year...


Posted by: devilsrevenge96
Posted by: Rubber Ducky929
No unless Mastercheif is an old man

. . . . isn't he 60? . . i remember somehow that he is 60 thats where i got my *40* figure from, about 20 at reach, then 40 years to H3


Oh and a star won't die and form in 60 years, it takes a long time.

Here we go: The Red star is a red giant that could be at the end of its life and die in the next 20 years, AND another star might finally be born OR be reach's main source of light AFTER the red star dies

  • 06.08.2009 6:15 PM PDT

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Your argument is flawed, Reach happens hours before Halo 1.

  • 06.08.2009 6:19 PM PDT

"YOUR DESTRUCTION IS THE WILL OF THE GODS, AND WE ARE THEIR INSTRUMENT."

Different. Colored. Suns.

  • 06.08.2009 6:20 PM PDT

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. . . . . AND? that . . . means what? Chief Can't have read up on the great battle that killed all his friends? plus I believe he participated in a small portion of the battle, he would have known . . and felt guilty so why not go exploring the new reach for a way off and hints from the past?
Your argument is flawed, Reach happens hours before Halo 1.

[Edited on 06.08.2009 6:22 PM PDT]

  • 06.08.2009 6:21 PM PDT

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Posted by: ZeroXFallen
Different. Colored. Suns.


Different. Colored. Stars. (the sun is what we call our star, as well as any life sustaining star, these stars DO NOT have to be the same size as ours AND can die, also a Red giant can die and be replaced by a blue star

  • 06.08.2009 6:24 PM PDT

"YOUR DESTRUCTION IS THE WILL OF THE GODS, AND WE ARE THEIR INSTRUMENT."

Posted by: devilsrevenge96
Posted by: ZeroXFallen
Different. Colored. Suns.


Different. Colored. Stars. (the sun is what we call our star, as well as any life sustaining star, these stars DO NOT have to be the same size as ours AND can die, also a Red giant can die and be replaced by a blue star
In about two months? Yeah, OKAY. Also, if it is supposed Reach, i'm confident the UNSC would know. A giant slipspace portal collapsing is quite noticable.

[Edited on 06.08.2009 6:28 PM PDT]

  • 06.08.2009 6:27 PM PDT

Ok I got tired of reading like halfway down the first page so i skipped to the end to see what I could say;

For starters Master Chief is around 40-42 years old at the end of Halo 3. Second there is no way that the Halo 3 Legendary ending is Reach, because it was glassed and basically destroyed of all life via, well you all know, the Covenant. Which brings me to my next point, Reach was destroyed I'd say probably a day before Halo 1, and I'll say it took that long because of the slip space jump that The Pillar of Autumn took. Does anyone know where they jumped from? Well I do, they jumped from Reach. Does anyone know why? Because the Covenant were glassing it to hell. As I was saying the Autumn took a somewhat random jump ( i say somewhat random because Cortana had the co-ordinates she just didn't know where it led to, which of course was the first Halo and is where you began Halo 1 just after the jump). And then, if memory serves my correctly halo 1's campaign takes about 72- hours to complete, I know this because of Master Chief's mission timer in the book Halo : Flood. Then another book happens, lol, and they get to the game Halo 2 which I'd say happens about a month after Halo 1 ( don't hold me on the time frame but I know it wasn't more than six months), and then Halo 2 campaign probably takes 1-2 weeks from start to finish, because of all the traveling and what not, and then the time frame between halo 2 and 3 is about 6 weeks, to which if i'm not mistaken is when Halo ODST takes place after, and then Halo 3 probably takes less than a week to complete, so therefore the Fall of Reach and halo 3's ending probably take place anywhere from 6-8 months, I've I reread the books and played through the games I could probably give you the exact amount of months but I have final exams this week and next week. Any questions?

  • 06.08.2009 6:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: devilsrevenge96
Posted by: ZeroXFallen
Different. Colored. Suns.


Different. Colored. Stars. (the sun is what we call our star, as well as any life sustaining star, these stars DO NOT have to be the same size as ours AND can die, also a Red giant can die and be replaced by a blue star


Epsilon Eridani is not a red giant. It will not suddenly die and be replaced instantly by a blue star. You are wrong.

  • 06.08.2009 6:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: devilsrevenge96
Posted by: ZeroXFallen
Different. Colored. Suns.


Different. Colored. Stars. (the sun is what we call our star, as well as any life sustaining star, these stars DO NOT have to be the same size as ours AND can die, also a Red giant can die and be replaced by a blue star


Epsilon Eridani is not a red giant. It will not suddenly die and be replaced instantly by a blue star. You are wrong.

IM NOT SAYING SUDDENLY OMFG IS IT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND!? im not saying one day Epsilon Eridani, the next nothingness . . . for all you know it could be dyeing NOW, as in in the process, if not already dead, determining the life and death of stars is very hard, because when we look into the sky and see them we are NOT seeing the stars, we are seeing the light that the stars let off TEN-THOUSANDS of years ago (depending on distance). so when we see stars we are essentially looking into the past.
ANYWAY the star could be dyeing, and somewhere in the 20 year loop Epsilon could die or dim, letting the light from a farther blue star, OR a new blue star that has been being born, to shed its light on a planet AGAIN ALL *COULD*

  • 06.08.2009 6:42 PM PDT

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Posted by: RedRaptor
I know this is so out there, but COULD there have been some forerunner technology on reach before the glassing? Similar to Halo and the Ark. That would explain the "buildings and lights" at the end of the Legendary game. I mean I dont see how the forerunner technology couldnt have been buried up, or broken through the glassing during the activation....totaly out there but whatever.


could be true, i remeber onyx had some of that -blam!-, i think Reach did to if i remeber right...

  • 06.08.2009 6:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: devilsrevenge96
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Posted by: devilsrevenge96
Posted by: ZeroXFallen
Different. Colored. Suns.


Different. Colored. Stars. (the sun is what we call our star, as well as any life sustaining star, these stars DO NOT have to be the same size as ours AND can die, also a Red giant can die and be replaced by a blue star


Epsilon Eridani is not a red giant. It will not suddenly die and be replaced instantly by a blue star. You are wrong.

IM NOT SAYING SUDDENLY OMFG IS IT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND!? im not saying one day Epsilon Eridani, the next nothingness . . . for all you know it could be dyeing NOW, as in in the process, if not already dead, determining the life and death of stars is very hard, because when we look into the sky and see them we are NOT seeing the stars, we are seeing the light that the stars let off TEN-THOUSANDS of years ago (depending on distance). so when we see stars we are essentially looking into the past.
ANYWAY the star could be dyeing, and somewhere in the 20 year loop Epsilon could die or dim, letting the light from a farther blue star, OR a new blue star that has been being born, to shed its light on a planet AGAIN ALL *COULD*


NO IT COULDN'T

  • 06.08.2009 6:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: ZeroXFallen
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Posted by: ZeroXFallen
Different. Colored. Suns.


Different. Colored. Stars. (the sun is what we call our star, as well as any life sustaining star, these stars DO NOT have to be the same size as ours AND can die, also a Red giant can die and be replaced by a blue star
In about two months? Yeah, OKAY. Also, if it is supposed Reach, i'm confident the UNSC would know. A giant slipspace portal collapsing is quite noticable.


Autumn was trying to leave and as it did Reach was glassed and the UNSC moved on, also what giant slipspace portal collapsing?! im saying NO TIME TRAVEL . . AGIAN the star didn't just die in two months . .its an on going process that also has 20 years time to complete, overlapping death and birth stages of stars are possible but not liekly *COULD HAPPEN*

  • 06.08.2009 6:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: devilsrevenge96
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Posted by: devilsrevenge96
Posted by: ZeroXFallen
Different. Colored. Suns.


Different. Colored. Stars. (the sun is what we call our star, as well as any life sustaining star, these stars DO NOT have to be the same size as ours AND can die, also a Red giant can die and be replaced by a blue star


Epsilon Eridani is not a red giant. It will not suddenly die and be replaced instantly by a blue star. You are wrong.

IM NOT SAYING SUDDENLY OMFG IS IT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND!? im not saying one day Epsilon Eridani, the next nothingness . . . for all you know it could be dyeing NOW, as in in the process, if not already dead, determining the life and death of stars is very hard, because when we look into the sky and see them we are NOT seeing the stars, we are seeing the light that the stars let off TEN-THOUSANDS of years ago (depending on distance). so when we see stars we are essentially looking into the past.
ANYWAY the star could be dyeing, and somewhere in the 20 year loop Epsilon could die or dim, letting the light from a farther blue star, OR a new blue star that has been being born, to shed its light on a planet AGAIN ALL *COULD*


NO IT COULDN'T



77777777 AD: Epsilon Born 777777 AD: Death process starts
Two days after Reach: Death Process finishes
MEANWHILE
7777 AD Birth of Blue star we shall call DevilsRevenge96: Birth Process starts
Two Days after Reach: Birth completed

OR

Once upon a time a blue star was far away from a planet whereas a red star was very close to it BUT that star was dieing and the blue star was liek >). One Day two days after the planet was glassed the red stars death finishes, the blue star is now no longer blocked out by the red star and all its blue light can hit the planet, the blue star is liek :D FAK YEA. 20 years l8r Master Chief crashes into planet. The end

  • 06.08.2009 6:52 PM PDT

"YOUR DESTRUCTION IS THE WILL OF THE GODS, AND WE ARE THEIR INSTRUMENT."

You're saying in the time between the Fall of Reach and the end of Halo 3, a star could've formed. Am i hearing you correctly?
Also, i didn't say anything about time travel. Did you even beat Halo 3? The portal collapsed, the Arbiter escaped, and Master Chief was sent to an unknown galaxy. Or, he was stuck in the one the Ark was in.
Also, i think we would notice if a new star was forming, or in the process. If there were two Stars, both coincidentally exploding as the new one forms, i DOUBT Reach would've been colonized. You know how bad it would be for a star to go supernova near an inhabited planet?

[Edited on 06.08.2009 6:56 PM PDT]

  • 06.08.2009 6:54 PM PDT

No matter what, it's always fun. If you win. So try harder random.

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i never thought of this, but a lot of what your saying make sense, it just doesn't seem very probable. With that aside, even however plausable your idea is, it does seem a bit corny and it would be difficult to make a good game (as good as or better than halo 3) out of without nerds like me rolling their eyes and telling the tv to "shut up and let me play the -blam!-ing game already", like the cortana flashes in the beginning levels of halo 3.

Although I am going to have to disagree in the entertainment portion of your theorey, I'll keep it in mind :)

  • 06.08.2009 6:57 PM PDT