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Subject: Theory: No Time Travel but Reach IS in the Legendary ending

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HALO REACH IS THE BEGINGING VERY BEGINNGING NOT END THATS WHY IS SAID YOU KNOW THE END FROM THE BEGINNING BEFORE HALO 1 HOW COULD IT BE MENTIONED IN THE LEGANDARY ENDING THEY ONLY SHOW THE END NOT THE BEGINNING HALO REACH IS ABOUT WHY MASTER CHEIF WAS THE LAST SPARTEN EVER WHEN THEY SAID WE HAVE SPARTENS ON THE GROUND AND WERE NOT LEAVING THE SPARTENS WERE ATTACKING REACH NOT THE COVENET

  • 06.08.2009 11:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: devilsrevenge96
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Err.....Halo: Reach and Halo 3 have around 6-7 months between them.

. . . . what?
. . . are you talking . . .about . . release dates? cause if so thats wrong . .. . .
are you talking about time line of Halo 3? If so how would you know . . ?

So your saying that the time between the Fall of Reach and Master Chief MIA is 40 years? If so, this is the funniest thing I heard on these forums since the time travel thing.

  • 06.08.2009 11:43 PM PDT

Posted by: Mouserug
Posted by: devilsrevenge96
Posted by: Arbiduck
Err.....Halo: Reach and Halo 3 have around 6-7 months between them.

. . . . what?
. . . are you talking . . .about . . release dates? cause if so thats wrong . .. . .
are you talking about time line of Halo 3? If so how would you know . . ?

So your saying that the time between the Fall of Reach and Master Chief MIA is 40 years? If so, this is the funniest thing I heard on these forums since the time travel thing.



lololol I do agree if he knew anything about the halo timeline, he would know that Master Cheifs MIA isn't 40 years like, wtf did that come from, whoever came up with that is an idiot, and whoever decided to follow his lead is an even bigger idiot. Just check out some eariler posts I made in this thread (page 3 is the main one) and you'll find out what you need to know.

  • 06.09.2009 9:51 AM PDT
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If you have a complaint about the game, just take a step back and remeber how lucky you really are to even be in possesion of it when compared to the millions of people suffering around the world with not even a roof over their heads.

As I posted on the other topic that is exactly the same as this one, Reach is not made out of metal, which the planet in the legendary ending clearly is.

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Posted by: Jeir
You guys are forgetting something. If you read Halo: First Strike, you would recall Dr. Halsey's time-bending slip-space crystal. Although the MC and the rest of the UNSC spent 4-5 days on the first Halo in warped space, they jumped back to Reach almost inmediately after they left By warped space, I mean that all those days they THOUGHT they had spent on Halo, were really a matter of hours. Dr. Halsey's explanation for this phenomenom was that the crystal had time-bending properties that would affect the very fabric of slipspace according to the users needs.

Also, if you recall Ghosts of Onyx, the Forerunners had developed capsules that would essentially "shield" their users by garrisoning them outside of "time" itself.

The very fact that Bungie used a similar exclipse effect on the Reach trailer as they did on the legendary ending had me wondering about this. Of course, Dr. Halsey isn't around, nor is her crystal. She's still inside Onyx's shield world, so this possibility is most likely proven wrong. However, the Forerunners have proven that they are capable of bending time and space to their will, so really one can expect absolutely anything to happen. Of course, Bungie has a tendency of surprising us with the option that nobody else could think of, so who knows what we can expect.

Don't forget: Reach wasn't completely glassed either, only the poles were if I recall.


In the books Reach was glassed except for one area. in that area was the underground facility were Dr Halsey was locked in, also it was were some of the remaining Spartans went to regroup. The only reason the covies did not glass it was to try an find the crystal that can bend S&T.

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The Flood are primitive as we see them. For all we know, the flood could be capable of constructing a society. The game simply eludes to the fact that they are mindless.

  • 06.09.2009 10:26 AM PDT
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Dude, Halo 1 was over way before halo 2. But Halo 2 and 3 are like 2-4 days all in succession. Halo 3 picked up right where Halo 2 left off. Halo 1 was over atleast 6 months before Halo 2 started.

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Posted by: kan O grahamz
Dude, Halo 1 was over way before halo 2. But Halo 2 and 3 are like 2-4 days all in succession. Halo 3 picked up right where Halo 2 left off. Halo 1 was over atleast 6 months before Halo 2 started.


Halo 1 ended September 20something 2552. Halo 2 began October 20, 2552.

  • 06.09.2009 10:43 AM PDT

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i think this is probably the best theory i have seen so far. i always thought the planet on the legendary ending of halo 3 was Onyx, where a bunch of Spartans and Dr. Hasley (the spartans creator) went through a portal to the forerunners 'shield' system (mentioned by Sparky in Halo 3 when you activate the cartographer) and lived happily in a little paradise. I figured since the halos were all destroyed the shield would let them out and Chief and Cortana would crash their. Hence reuniting most of the surving spartans for them all to live happily ever after. Thats just my theory.

  • 06.09.2009 11:05 AM PDT

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id be fine if someone would disprove this.

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HEY Buddy the MC is not the last spartan. There are 4 spartans known to still be living...John(the MC)-Spartan 117, Kelly-087, Linda-Spartan 058, and Frederic- Spartan 104. ALso, there are 3 spartans that are part of grey team on a mission behind enemy lines to destroy nav data that could possibly fall into enemy hands(read the cole protocol). These are Adriana-111, Jai-006 and Mike-ID unknown. Also, check what u said about last spartan ever, there are still the spartan 3s that are trapped on Onyx(read ghosts of onyx) with Fred and Linda.

  • 06.09.2009 11:29 AM PDT

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Posted by: eir411
HEY Buddy the MC is not the last spartan. There are 4 spartans known to still be living...John(the MC)-Spartan 117, Kelly-087, Linda-Spartan 058, and Frederic- Spartan 104. ALso, there are 3 spartans that are part of grey team on a mission behind enemy lines to destroy nav data that could possibly fall into enemy hands(read the cole protocol). These are Adriana-111, Jai-006 and Mike-ID unknown. Also, check what u said about last spartan ever, there are still the spartan 3s that are trapped on Onyx(read ghosts of onyx) with Fred and Linda.

Exactly!!!!!! and he goes and meets them on Onyx cuz they get let outta of the shield. Except for grey team back out on some planet.

  • 06.09.2009 11:35 AM PDT

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The planet in the H3 ending looked very machine-like to me, almost like an artificial Forerunner planet.

It's also safe to say Bungie didn't know they would be making Reach when they finished H3. It's been about a year and a half since then, and Bungie was going on and on about how they were done with the Halo universe. All of a sudden, they come out with some movies and concept art and we think they've had this planned all along? I highly doubt it.

With that in mind...it can't be Reach; besides, that would be a horrible way to kick off a new chapter in the Halo universe, and Bungie has already proven they've got the guts to veer in a dramatically different direction. It's more likely whatever we saw at the end of H3 w is something brand new.

But we really can't be sure until Recon comes out (I don't care that it's called ODST, Recon sounds much better!). They will have time to add little hints and curiousity's to Recon regarding Reach and the future of the Halo franchise, so that is when we can truly comment on the issue.

  • 06.09.2009 11:54 AM PDT

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Posted by: Barighm
The planet in the H3 ending looked very machine-like to me, almost like an artificial Forerunner planet.


AGAIN!!!!! It's ONYX!!!!!!!! they unearthed a bunch of forerunner crap on Onyx!! Thats what triggered the sentinels and the SHIELD!!!!!!!!

  • 06.09.2009 11:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: eir411
The Flood are primitive as we see them. For all we know, the flood could be capable of constructing a society. The game simply eludes to the fact that they are mindless.


For the flood to thrive they must have something to grow off of, unless a gravemind spore somehow made itself onto a planet, and then it thrived off of lost travelers and a growing atmosphere and environment

  • 06.09.2009 2:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: RyanMichael
HALO REACH IS THE BEGINGING VERY BEGINNGING NOT END THATS WHY IS SAID YOU KNOW THE END FROM THE BEGINNING BEFORE HALO 1 HOW COULD IT BE MENTIONED IN THE LEGANDARY ENDING THEY ONLY SHOW THE END NOT THE BEGINNING HALO REACH IS ABOUT WHY MASTER CHEIF WAS THE LAST SPARTEN EVER WHEN THEY SAID WE HAVE SPARTENS ON THE GROUND AND WERE NOT LEAVING THE SPARTENS WERE ATTACKING REACH NOT THE COVENET


Flash Backs my friend

  • 06.09.2009 2:22 PM PDT

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Oh man does this thread suck... really, you all need to read up on your canon knowledge.

  • 06.09.2009 2:29 PM PDT

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The idea is complete bull-blam!-, they wont let John die. And lets face it, the Covenant cant set up a "city" on Reach because 1: The planet is like hell, not even any species of Archabacteria can survive on there. And 2: Lets remember that the Covenant is gone, dead, dust, nothing. The Master Chief lit the ring and finished any Covenant bastards that were left. The timeline of the Halo Trilogy even stated that at the end of 2552 there was a treaty between Humans, Elites, and any remaining Brutes.
PS: # 117 post! =)

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  • 06.09.2009 2:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mouserug
The idea is complete bull-blam!-, they wont let John die. And lets face it, the Covenant cant set up a "city" on Reach because 1: The planet is like hell, not even any species of Archabacteria can survive on there. And 2: Lets remember that the Covenant is gone, dead, dust, nothing. The Master Chief lit the ring and finished any Covenant bastards that were left. The timeline of the Halo Trilogy even stated that at the end of 2552 there was a treaty between Humans, Elites, and any remaining Brutes.
PS: # 117 post! =)

The Covenant aren't setting anything up!! im saying there could be a new pioneer species

  • 06.09.2009 2:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Zippy990
i think this is probably the best theory i have seen so far. i always thought the planet on the legendary ending of halo 3 was Onyx, where a bunch of Spartans and Dr. Hasley (the spartans creator) went through a portal to the forerunners 'shield' system (mentioned by Sparky in Halo 3 when you activate the cartographer) and lived happily in a little paradise. I figured since the halos were all destroyed the shield would let them out and Chief and Cortana would crash their. Hence reuniting most of the surving spartans for them all to live happily ever after. Thats just my theory.

Or the planet could be reach, why where the Covenant on Reach? the humans perspective is given but the exact prophet's motives are not expressed, there could have been a forerunner system under reach and the covenant glassed it so the humans would not be able to have discover anything. The glassed planet would have all surface artifacts gone BUT the outer core layer could survive, the layer in which the forerunner set up their system, the death of the red star could have released a huge amount of energy in hydrogen and heat, melting in the glassed surface that cannot support life and uncovering the system, thats another theory

  • 06.09.2009 2:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: devilsrevenge96
Posted by: Mouserug
The idea is complete bull-blam!-, they wont let John die. And lets face it, the Covenant cant set up a "city" on Reach because 1: The planet is like hell, not even any species of Archabacteria can survive on there. And 2: Lets remember that the Covenant is gone, dead, dust, nothing. The Master Chief lit the ring and finished any Covenant bastards that were left. The timeline of the Halo Trilogy even stated that at the end of 2552 there was a treaty between Humans, Elites, and any remaining Brutes.
PS: # 117 post! =)

The Covenant aren't setting anything up!! im saying there could be a new pioneer species

The legendary planet clearly has Forerunner structures on it. If the species that built those on "Reach" are Forerunners, I will clearly laugh, Forerunners aren't that retarded.

  • 06.09.2009 2:36 PM PDT

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Posted by: devilsrevenge96
Posted by: Zippy990
i think this is probably the best theory i have seen so far. i always thought the planet on the legendary ending of halo 3 was Onyx, where a bunch of Spartans and Dr. Hasley (the spartans creator) went through a portal to the forerunners 'shield' system (mentioned by Sparky in Halo 3 when you activate the cartographer) and lived happily in a little paradise. I figured since the halos were all destroyed the shield would let them out and Chief and Cortana would crash their. Hence reuniting most of the surving spartans for them all to live happily ever after. Thats just my theory.

Or the planet could be reach, why where the Covenant on Reach? the humans perspective is given but the exact prophet's motives are not expressed, there could have been a forerunner system under reach and the covenant glassed it so the humans would not be able to have discover anything. The glassed planet would have all surface artifacts gone BUT the outer core layer could survive, the layer in which the forerunner set up their system, the death of the red star could have released a huge amount of energy in hydrogen and heat, melting in the glassed surface that cannot support life and uncovering the system, thats another theory

They were after Forerunner technology, a time bending shard which can make slipstream travel instant. Question answered.

  • 06.09.2009 2:37 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mouserug
Posted by: devilsrevenge96
Posted by: Zippy990
i think this is probably the best theory i have seen so far. i always thought the planet on the legendary ending of halo 3 was Onyx, where a bunch of Spartans and Dr. Hasley (the spartans creator) went through a portal to the forerunners 'shield' system (mentioned by Sparky in Halo 3 when you activate the cartographer) and lived happily in a little paradise. I figured since the halos were all destroyed the shield would let them out and Chief and Cortana would crash their. Hence reuniting most of the surving spartans for them all to live happily ever after. Thats just my theory.

Or the planet could be reach, why where the Covenant on Reach? the humans perspective is given but the exact prophet's motives are not expressed, there could have been a forerunner system under reach and the covenant glassed it so the humans would not be able to have discover anything. The glassed planet would have all surface artifacts gone BUT the outer core layer could survive, the layer in which the forerunner set up their system, the death of the red star could have released a huge amount of energy in hydrogen and heat, melting in the glassed surface that cannot support life and uncovering the system, thats another theory

They were after Forerunner technology, a time bending shard which can make slipstream travel instant. Question answered.

To top that off, here is the shard they were looking for: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Forerunner_crystal

  • 06.09.2009 2:43 PM PDT

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I AM NOT SAYING THE PIONEER SECIES AND THE FORERUNNER ARE THE SAME! god go take freshman bio . .

  • 06.09.2009 3:43 PM PDT
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Just to add to what everyone else has said. When Reach was glassed all the atmosphere was completely destroyed. It would probably be the most idiotic idea to land on a planet with no atmosphere. The MJOLNIR armor only has reserve oxygen for thirty minutes. People just need to stop wildly speculating and wait until something official is released.


Hell yeah

  • 06.09.2009 3:52 PM PDT