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Subject: The Top 5 things BUNGIE/MS did WRONG with Halo 3: ODST

Nice to see these are the worst things this guy can say Bungie did in regards to making the game. Clearly he thinks very high of them.

Since, y'know, they don't control the price. And Firefight isn't really canon.

As for the Recon thing... I think Bungie is just being a bit presumptuous and possibly rightly so. Anyone who has been put on "The List" has done something to Bungie in a way that Bungie seriously doesn't like them; that sort of insistance is not often able to be done by someone not "in-the-know." Someone who follows things online will know that Halo 3: ODST doesn't give just everybody recon. If they don't know? Ehn, they made Bungie angry. I'll forgive their flaws in the face of their game.

  • 06.08.2009 9:03 PM PDT

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"So officer tell me how it feels to be at the wrong end of that barrel?"

wow ure silly and by that i mean the other one ya stupid
who cares if johnson doesnt have a visor are you gonna complain that the covenant have antigravity technologie cause thats impossible to.
this aargument is = EPIC FAIL
ODST will be awsome hands down

  • 06.08.2009 9:10 PM PDT
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Then don't buy it.

  • 06.08.2009 9:13 PM PDT

Posted by: Halo 2 Rookie
Nice to see these are the worst things this guy can say Bungie did in regards to making the game. Clearly he thinks very high of them.

Since, y'know, they don't control the price. And Firefight isn't really canon.

As for the Recon thing... I think Bungie is just being a bit presumptuous and possibly rightly so. Anyone who has been put on "The List" has done something to Bungie in a way that Bungie seriously doesn't like them; that sort of insistance is not often able to be done by someone not "in-the-know." Someone who follows things online will know that Halo 3: ODST doesn't give just everybody recon. If they don't know? Ehn, they made Bungie angry. I'll forgive their flaws in the face of their game.


you said Bungie way too many times

  • 06.08.2009 9:17 PM PDT

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$60 isn't that much, I wipe it with $60. Also you still could get Recon if you're on the list.

Proof
For those wondering if that means they're on The List - the compilation of names we've collected of players who might never receive Recon via any method - the answer is probably no. We typically reserve those line items for the really egregious offenders, for example, players who convinced themselves it was a great idea to mod their way to the achievements that aren't available through official means just yet.

But if you've been banned for EXP boosting, your penalty has already been delivered. If you lost your File Share privileges, the consequences of your actions have already been realized. You can still have Recon come Fall, as long as you complete all of the Halo 3 and Halo 3: ODST achievements required, just like everyone else.

And this isn't your cue to message us asking for a detailed itemization of each and every ban type for severity so you can determine if you have made The List. If your punishment was only temporary, or was confined only to Bungie.net, chances are you have nothing to worry about.

From the Bungie Weekly Update 5/22/09

[Edited on 06.08.2009 9:32 PM PDT]

  • 06.08.2009 9:21 PM PDT
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Although I was hoping it would be less than $60, I'm still not complaining since I've seen much worse for the same price.

  • 06.08.2009 9:26 PM PDT
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Your arguments fail:

1. You get Firefight, a new, open-world campaign with hours of gameplay + co-op, the Halo Reach beta, Halo 3 multiplayer with every map + 3 exclusive maps, and 1000G of new achievements.

2. Get over it. Many people would actually pay $10 to get into the beta, and besides, you know you want it...

3. It's also the only expansion that has 1000G worth of new achievements, a brand new campaign, a new co-op mode, a standalone version of Halo 3 multiplayer, and 3 new maps, as well as all of the existing maps.

4. If people wanted Recon, they shouldn't have been stupid enough to get banned from it.

5. You have no idea how they went about this, and they surely considered this issue. You have no evidence that proves that Johnson even has a VISR mode... One solution that they may have done is simply removed the HUD altogether, which would be a good idea, as you would have an extra challenge for playing as an exclusive character.

  • 06.08.2009 9:32 PM PDT

Posted by: SHADOWEDBONES
$60 isn't that much, I wipe it with $60. Also you still could get Recon if you're on the list.

Proof
For those wondering if that means they're on The List - the compilation of names we've collected of players who might never receive Recon via any method - the answer is probably no. We typically reserve those line items for the really egregious offenders, for example, players who convinced themselves it was a great idea to mod their way to the achievements that aren't available through official means just yet.

But if you've been banned for EXP boosting, your penalty has already been delivered. If you lost your File Share privileges, the consequences of your actions have already been realized. You can still have Recon come Fall, as long as you complete all of the Halo 3 and Halo 3: ODST achievements required, just like everyone else.

And this isn't your cue to message us asking for a detailed itemization of each and every ban type for severity so you can determine if you have made The List. If your punishment was only temporary, or was confined only to Bungie.net, chances are you have nothing to worry about.

From the Bungie Weekly Update 5/22/09


I commend you someone actually brings proof to back up what they say.

  • 06.09.2009 2:26 PM PDT
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1.) It has a whole campaign, firefight mode, 3 new maps, and the beta

2.) And? Buy it before the beta comes out.

3.) Not really an expansion there. Consult # 1

4.) Agreed, its a little unfair, but they're banned from Recon for disobeying rules.

5.) Ever hear of an easter egg?

  • 06.09.2009 2:31 PM PDT

Life's a -blam!-, always testing you. All you got to do is get up from your desk, kick it in the balls and walk out of the class. Then you come back later, and pass the test.

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Posted by: Apocalypse 0987
This is the English language, since when did it make sense?
lol, you win.

Do not = don't
Can not = can't
Will not = won't

WTF?

Cannot is one word.
More WTF?


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  • 06.09.2009 2:53 PM PDT

Posted by: Double Entendre
So in other words:

1. Price
2. Price
3. Price
4. How dare Bungie punish idiots!
5. Look at meh I'm trying to be funny! Why aren't you laughing? Guise?

You pretty much could have shortened it to one reason


This pretty much sums it up for me.

  • 06.09.2009 2:55 PM PDT

I just realized how awesome wrecking the enemy team with a Focus Rifle from atop the Spire is. It's magical. It's like Concussion Rifle vs Sword/Shotgun.

Well the whole recon thing is kinda dumb in a way but its achievements for the game that get you recon why take that right away if the listed people dont do it anymore...

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Posted by: Double Entendre
So in other words:

1. Price
2. Price
3. Price
4. How dare Bungie punish idiots!
5. Look at meh I'm trying to be funny! Why aren't you laughing? Guise?

You pretty much could have shortened it to one reason

i laughed more at that than the OP

  • 06.09.2009 2:58 PM PDT

Posted by: Zombie Governor
1.) 'We do not view this as a 60$ game', and look, it's 60$.

2.) Microsoft says part of the pricing includes a beta to Halo : Reach. YES. THAT'S RIGHT. They're MAKING you pay for a BETA That's FORCIBLY included in a game. If you buy it, even after the beta period is over, the 'pricing' for the Beta is STILL Included in the 60$ you will buy, even if the beta period is over

3.) Halo 3 ODST is the only expansion pack for a popular video game that costs 60$

4.) The Recon Helmet is still banned to people on 'The List' if you buy ODST. This will equate to False Advertising if 'Get recon!' is on the back of the box, or anywhere in the game manual. Hopefully nothing about the game tells people that Recon is unlockable, because i can prove this is false advertising. Basically, if someone was on the list BEFORE Halo 3 RECON was announced, then even if you buy the game, something you did before the game was announced barred you from recon.

5.) Sgt. Johnson is unlockable in Firefight.
This does NOT MAKE SENSE AT ALL
Want to know why? ODST's have a 'Nightvision' mode, or something like that. As you know, Johnson doesn't have a visor, so how would he use night vision?
That's right. THEY MADE SGT. JOHNSON A ROBOT
Well, that'd explain why he's immune to the Flood...


1) Micro$oft chooses the prices
2) You had to pay for crackdown to have the halo 3 beta, nobody -blam!-ed then.
3) It has an entire playable campaign with achievements, therefore a full game
4) Your dumb, they even say in the posts by urk weekly, "Even if your banned, you'll have to wait for ODST to have recon" (not direct quote.)
5) Who cares? He's still a badass character

Oh and 6... YOUR A -blam!- DUMBASS

Edit for 5: Easter egg. Moron. you fail at life.

[Edited on 06.09.2009 3:01 PM PDT]

  • 06.09.2009 2:59 PM PDT

Posted by: Zombie Governor
1.) 'We do not view this as a 60$ game', and look, it's 60$.

2.) Microsoft says part of the pricing includes a beta to Halo : Reach. YES. THAT'S RIGHT. They're MAKING you pay for a BETA That's FORCIBLY included in a game. If you buy it, even after the beta period is over, the 'pricing' for the Beta is STILL Included in the 60$ you will buy, even if the beta period is over

3.) Halo 3 ODST is the only expansion pack for a popular video game that costs 60$

4.) The Recon Helmet is still banned to people on 'The List' if you buy ODST. This will equate to False Advertising if 'Get recon!' is on the back of the box, or anywhere in the game manual. Hopefully nothing about the game tells people that Recon is unlockable, because i can prove this is false advertising. Basically, if someone was on the list BEFORE Halo 3 RECON was announced, then even if you buy the game, something you did before the game was announced barred you from recon.

5.) Sgt. Johnson is unlockable in Firefight.
This does NOT MAKE SENSE AT ALL
Want to know why? ODST's have a 'Nightvision' mode, or something like that. As you know, Johnson doesn't have a visor, so how would he use night vision?
That's right. THEY MADE SGT. JOHNSON A ROBOT
Well, that'd explain why he's immune to the Flood...

1. your fault for not viewing it like that.
2.then get it when its in beta.
3.expansion? its a full game.
4.its not, they always reinforced before the release or mentioning, you would NEVER get recon if you asked.
5.firefight, like halo 3 multiplayer, is a completely alternate universe, where anything goes, in halo 3 multiplayer theres thousands upon thousands of spartans fighting EACHOTHER, didnt -blam!- about that, so why are you -blam!-ing about this.

  • 06.09.2009 3:00 PM PDT
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Your arguments fail:

1. You get Firefight, a new, open-world campaign with hours of gameplay + co-op, the Halo Reach beta, Halo 3 multiplayer with every map + 3 exclusive maps, and 1000G of new achievements.

2. Get over it. Many people would actually pay $10 to get into the beta, and besides, you know you want it...

3. It's also the only expansion that has 1000G worth of new achievements, a brand new campaign, a new co-op mode, a standalone version of Halo 3 multiplayer, and 3 new maps, as well as all of the existing maps.

4. If people wanted Recon, they shouldn't have been stupid enough to get banned from it.

5. You have no idea how they went about this, and they surely considered this issue. You have no evidence that proves that Johnson even has a VISR mode... One solution that they may have done is simply removed the HUD altogether, which would be a good idea, as you would have an extra challenge for playing as an exclusive character.

People payed 60$ for crackdown jst for the halo 3 beta

  • 06.09.2009 3:01 PM PDT

Life's a -blam!-, always testing you. All you got to do is get up from your desk, kick it in the balls and walk out of the class. Then you come back later, and pass the test.

6. Let you get on Bungie.net and play Halo 3

  • 06.09.2009 3:01 PM PDT

I don't know what makes you so stupid, but it really works!

seriously halo 3 odst is not the BEST GAME EVAR

  • 06.09.2009 3:02 PM PDT

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i agree with the price things. Everything else (like the Johnson thing) was stupid.

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one thing they did wrong....is to announce it so far away form realese...why cant they do it like in september. cus now i CANT WAIT till it comes out. and its annoying.

  • 06.09.2009 3:05 PM PDT

price=fail

  • 06.09.2009 3:06 PM PDT

Posted by: Zombie Governor
1.) 'We do not view this as a 60$ game', and look, it's 60$.

2.) Microsoft says part of the pricing includes a beta to Halo : Reach. YES. THAT'S RIGHT. They're MAKING you pay for a BETA That's FORCIBLY included in a game. If you buy it, even after the beta period is over, the 'pricing' for the Beta is STILL Included in the 60$ you will buy, even if the beta period is over

3.) Halo 3 ODST is the only expansion pack for a popular video game that costs 60$

4.) The Recon Helmet is still banned to people on 'The List' if you buy ODST. This will equate to False Advertising if 'Get recon!' is on the back of the box, or anywhere in the game manual. Hopefully nothing about the game tells people that Recon is unlockable, because i can prove this is false advertising. Basically, if someone was on the list BEFORE Halo 3 RECON was announced, then even if you buy the game, something you did before the game was announced barred you from recon.

5.) Sgt. Johnson is unlockable in Firefight.
This does NOT MAKE SENSE AT ALL
Want to know why? ODST's have a 'Nightvision' mode, or something like that. As you know, Johnson doesn't have a visor, so how would he use night vision?
That's right. THEY MADE SGT. JOHNSON A ROBOT
Well, that'd explain why he's immune to the Flood...


1) Well, you get (with the normal version):

-ODST Campaign
-ODST Firefight
-Halo 3 multiplayer
-All Halo 3 multiplayer maps, upcoming and otherwise
-(Pre-order)Sgt. Johnson as a playable Firefight character

Not worth sixty dollars to you? Don't buy the game.

2)Please, inform us where and when any Microsoft associate, employee or otherwise, said this.

3)An expansion pack for a game would add actual content to a game that somehow adds to a playing experience. ODST itself is not an expansion. The maps may be seen as expansions, however, forming an expasion pack for Halo 3 multiplayer. ODST is its own game that adapted the "Halo 3" title from, well, Halo 3.

4)Actually, anyone can get recon armor from the Vidmaster achievments once ODST is released. They just have to be careful and not get it taken away. Also, it is not false advertising to say that recon armor is unlockable if it is. Even if someone on the list couldn't get it from ODST, it would still be unlockable, just not to everyone.

5)It is understandable that you see this as something that doesn't make much sense, but why does it matter.? First of all, you don't have to use him, and unless you pre-order ODST from a select retailer, you won't use him (at least with your ODST). Second of all, you should just enjoy it. If you use him, who cares if it doesn't make sense? Does it make sense that someone in a set of armor weighing quite a good deal can fall ten stories and not be crushed under their own weight? No, but I'm sure you don't have a problem with it.

  • 06.09.2009 3:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: Zombie Governor
1.) 'We do not view this as a 60$ game', and look, it's 60$.

its microsoft, you expected something different?

2.) Microsoft says part of the pricing includes a beta to Halo : Reach. YES. THAT'S RIGHT. They're MAKING you pay for a BETA That's FORCIBLY included in a game. If you buy it, even after the beta period is over, the 'pricing' for the Beta is STILL Included in the 60$ you will buy, even if the beta period is over

number 1

3.) Halo 3 ODST is the only expansion pack for a popular video game that costs 60$

......number 1

4.) The Recon Helmet is still banned to people on 'The List' if you buy ODST. This will equate to False Advertising if 'Get recon!' is on the back of the box, or anywhere in the game manual. Hopefully nothing about the game tells people that Recon is unlockable, because i can prove this is false advertising. Basically, if someone was on the list BEFORE Halo 3 RECON was announced, then even if you buy the game, something you did before the game was announced barred you from recon.

im pretty sure that their selling point wont be "OMG RECONZZZ!!" and if it is, they will probably say something along the lines of, "Hey, you -blam!- up so you dont get 'your' god damn recon"

5.) Sgt. Johnson is unlockable in Firefight.
This does NOT MAKE SENSE AT ALL
Want to know why? ODST's have a 'Nightvision' mode, or something like that. As you know, Johnson doesn't have a visor, so how would he use night vision?
That's right. THEY MADE SGT. JOHNSON A ROBOT
Well, that'd explain why he's immune to the Flood...

ok........its a game...what part of it has to make sense? And what proof do you have that he wasnt a robot in the first place?

  • 06.09.2009 4:58 PM PDT