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Subject: Why are people freaking out that there is no Battle Rifle.

Posted by: I DoMeAgE I
I've already read all of the halo books today you stupid nerd. Plus Halo:Fall of reach twice.

The pistol is nothing like the Halo 1 pistol apart from the fact it has a scope. it has the power similar to a halo 2 pistol. it's not going to have that 'desert eagle' type feel.

  • 06.08.2009 9:28 AM PDT

Posted by: T3H Sniper King
I enjoy the absence of the Battle Rifle.

  • 06.08.2009 9:28 AM PDT

Fellow Floodian:
Posted by: Oh This Dude
I had a very similar thing, only I threw a 14 story building out of a pool and hit a kid on a paper aeroplane.


The Flood is just this awesome :D

besides the pistol is semi-automatic so u can just shoot WAY faster than the BR

  • 06.08.2009 9:33 AM PDT

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Posted by: Chunky_Lover
No BR? Suicide is the only option!

Why complain? True MLG players cared more for the Halo`CE Pistol than the Battle Rifle.

Indeed they did. Personally, the Handcannon/Mini-Sniper Rifle/Toaster is much better than the glorified bullet hose.

"Its ether the worlds biggest pistol or the worlds smallest sniper!" Marine Halo 1

  • 06.08.2009 9:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: Drummerkid1993
The pistol is nothing like the Halo 1 pistol apart from the fact it has a scope. it has the power similar to a halo 2 pistol. it's not going to have that 'desert eagle' type feel.

So Bungie saying its just like the Halo CE pistol at E3 was a lie?

  • 06.08.2009 9:40 AM PDT

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I simply can't stand this shift of camp. A year ago most said BR is a great weapon. Now most act like it ruined the entire game.

Moreover I always like an option, plus Halo2 Mombasa levels had BRs.
+Option
+Story

But based on the talk and videos I don't think many would care if all this game had was the SMG and pistol. I sure would.

  • 06.08.2009 9:54 AM PDT

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Posted by: spartanlazer10
Posted by: T3H Sniper King
I enjoy the absence of the Battle Rifle.

Me too.

I second that.


yah

  • 06.08.2009 9:55 AM PDT

The human element always mucks things up.

What else can the mlg wannabes use?

  • 06.08.2009 9:57 AM PDT

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i dont really care. That pistol looks beastly

  • 06.08.2009 9:57 AM PDT
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From what I perceive as a non-biased point of view, here's why they are complaining:

The BR is a great weapon for an all-around game; it can reach very distant opponents, yet it can also kill enemies in a relatively short range rather easily. Other than the Carbine (which has it's problems, too), I don't see any other weapon that is so "all-around" and strong.

  • 06.08.2009 9:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: T3H Sniper King
I enjoy the absence of the Battle Rifle.

Me too. Don't get me wrong: I like to use the BR, and I like its feel, but since it dominates pretty much all of Halo's matchmaking experience right now, it's nice to finally have a change of pace. Plus, I don't think the SMG and Pistol will suck in ODST. They seem to be more than decent replacements for the BR. So... change is good, as far as I'm concerned.

  • 06.08.2009 10:07 AM PDT

I am the creator, defender, and destroyer of awesome. Feel my wrath!

The MLG players are whining about it because there won't be a grenade-BR combo. Tough crap, the automag and SMG with scope are fine by me. Anyway, the carbine is just fine, and it looks hella better than the BR.

  • 06.08.2009 10:10 AM PDT

Removing weapons from a game is just backwards thinking to me. Why create a weapon and not include it in your game, it doesn't make sense. The argument about the new pistol being its replacement is kinda dumb as well, it would have been like removing the smg from Halo 3 because we had the ar back. Don't get me wrong the new pistol and smg look sick, (and hopefully there are other new weapons we haven't seen yet), but I just don't understand why Bungie limits the gameplay by removing weapons.

  • 06.08.2009 10:11 AM PDT

The interesting thing about all of you who are criticizing MLG for taking a predisposed liking to the battle rifle is that your arguments are based solely on projection.

Why should MLG care whether there is a battle rifle in ODST when it doesn't even feature a competitive multiplayer component? Yeah, Firefight is technically competitive, but not in the same sense as past Halo games. Here's the deal:

Subconsciously, anti-MLG players seem want to stir up trouble with their more competitive counterparts, so they provoke conflict by emphasizing their support of anything that they think MLG players might not support (and visa-versa). The problem here is that the two sides both tend to enter into any argument swinging wildly, automatically assuming that every member of the other group is a hater, flamer, and generally distasteful individual.

It's time to grow up, people. There's no reason to create conflict where it isn't warranted, and disagreements over weapon choices in a video game certainly isn't worth throwing fists over. Yes, it might be a perfectly viable point of discussion worthy of debate, but that's not what I see here. What I see is two groups spending more time trying to make each other angry than providing actual thought and contemplation to an otherwise perfectly worthwhile debate.

Remember that it takes two to have an argument. If everyone continues to become personally offended by these forum posts and spends their time trying to get back at their perceived "enemies," these threads will continue to be thinly-disguised flame wars. So stop it. You guys are better than that.

[Edited on 06.08.2009 10:26 AM PDT]

  • 06.08.2009 10:24 AM PDT

Old School

MLG players are probably turning their BR's onto themselves * OH WAIT, NO BR's!* hahaha

Yeah like some said before, who cares for a BR when the pistol is made of win loaded with win sauce. mmmm win sauce.

  • 06.08.2009 10:28 AM PDT

"Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos. I'm an agent of chaos. Oh and you know the thing about chaos... it's fair."

It's not like they are taking out the BR in multiplayer, it's just in the campaign which is a tactical campaign and not the typical run and gun...

There are no losses anywhere...

  • 06.08.2009 10:30 AM PDT

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This man, this man right here put it so eloquently that I actually cancelled my own 2000+ word long post.
/slow clap for respect


:)
The person who said participating is important, not winning, obviously never won anything.

I think that the Battle Rifles main purpose is mostly multiplayer, and since Halo3 ODST dosent have multiplayer, they dont need the BR included. The Automag is good enough to replace it in campaign, so dont worry couse its just a weapon and it'l be back in Reach, im sure of it.

  • 06.08.2009 10:32 AM PDT

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Posted by: Slick Rick 986
Removing weapons from a game is just backwards thinking to me. Why create a weapon and not include it in your game, it doesn't make sense. The argument about the new pistol being its replacement is kinda dumb as well, it would have been like removing the smg from Halo 3 because we had the ar back. Don't get me wrong the new pistol and smg look sick, (and hopefully there are other new weapons we haven't seen yet), but I just don't understand why Bungie limits the gameplay by removing weapons.


This is because the ODST is a different soldier to the chief, the ODST is a specialist therefore it makes sense for him to use his own type of weapons, not a standard BR.

  • 06.08.2009 10:32 AM PDT

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  • 06.08.2009 10:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: El Tacos56
I do not see why everyone is making such a big deal. We get the Carbine. It is basically the same, but it looks cooler and shoots faster. And is purple.


Because of this, it feels like it is useless to remove Battle Rifle, because we get its better variant anyway plus the new pistol, which maybe can be the Hand Cannon Jr. someday.

  • 06.08.2009 10:33 AM PDT

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Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
Mlg fanatics. What else can they do?


Actually.... isnt that how they formed? "OMGZ WE H8 AR NUB!"

I actually think that it will be good (even though BR is my #1 tool of destruction....) I think that BRs have dominated Halo- they arent fun anymore because the entire game has only one rule "learn to use a BR and you will be good at Halo".... kinda lame- Every game focuses on strafing and trying to headshot with a BR.... (BORING!)
Without the BR, games will be more close quarters combat styled- that will be good and make it so that people can move into the open and not completely fear getting shot- its a shame that there would be no ODST multiplayer- but I hope that the Halo: Reach Beta does this with multiplayer.

  • 06.08.2009 10:36 AM PDT

Thats a cop out, I see screens of ODSTs weilding all sorts of weapons: laser, rockets, sniper ect. Am I supposed to believe they have enough training to use those weapons but they can't handle a br?

  • 06.08.2009 10:40 AM PDT

Posted by: spartanlazer10
Its just a weapon that, to me, is not all that great. And if the Automag(new pistol) is as good as the videos show there should be no problem with getting head-shots on grunts and jackals.

Probably similar reasons that the pistol lovers had for freaking out about Halo 2. People don't like it when you change things they love. Some people like their U.S. Presidents to be white, but that don't make it right. :p

  • 06.08.2009 10:41 AM PDT

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Posted by: Mikelp_1
Posted by: ExquisiteDragon
Mlg fanatics. What else can they do?


Actually.... isnt that how they formed? "OMGZ WE H8 AR NUB!"

I actually think that it will be good (even though BR is my #1 tool of destruction....) I think that BRs have dominated Halo- they arent fun anymore because the entire game has only one rule "learn to use a BR and you will be good at Halo".... kinda lame- Every game focuses on strafing and trying to headshot with a BR.... (BORING!)
Without the BR, games will be more close quarters combat styled- that will be good and make it so that people can move into the open and not completely fear getting shot- its a shame that there would be no ODST multiplayer- but I hope that the Halo: Reach Beta does this with multiplayer.


actually, i can agree with you , the BR's have dominated the game too much, takes away the fun of the other weapons. i mean the only way usually to kill someone who has a BR with a different weapon is to catch him by surprise him.

  • 06.08.2009 10:44 AM PDT
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Dude, I love the BR I really do, have since Halo 2... However, if Bungie were to put the automag into forge on that second disc, I would never pick up a BR again!

  • 06.08.2009 11:06 AM PDT