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I know that this isn't 100% on topic for the forum. Hopefully it has enough relevance to not be locked.

I have noticed that a fairly popular theory is that at the end of Halo 3 the chief's half of the frigate was engulfed by a wormhole or some other cosmic oddity, and by the Halo laws of physics ended up back in time to the initial reach conflict.

I believe that instead of that, the chief ended up in a shield world.

A shield world is an artificial planet that the forerunners built outside of the fabric of the halo universe. Basically to serve as a safe zone in case they ever had to fire the halos in order to kill off the flood. They used their super advanced, cool, instead nerdy word here, technology to bend the fabric of space in order to ensure that it would be completely safe.

In the book halo:onyx I believe it is. The characters stumble upon a shield world somehow. This may not be accurate as I have never read any of the books, but am simply relying upon my friend who claims to have read them.

Nevertheless it's a fact that there is at least one shield world. However I don't think it is too much of a stretch to say that there are other shield worlds out there. With the huge expanse and general huge-ness of the universe the forerunners would want multiple shield worlds to ensure that the maximum amount of forerunners would survive no matter where they were in the cosmos.

If the assumption that there is more than one shield world is accepted then it is pretty logical to assume also that they would put one by the ark. With such a devastating piece of technology, if the forerunners activated it then they would want out of there asap.

So if everything above happened. Then the chief is in an alternate dimension. Meaning that their homing beacon will not be picked up by the UNSC (sad face).

In the interest of having a plot then perhaps the world would actually have forerunners on it who would discover the frigate and the chief. He would then either fight them, or help them from a threat, presumably the flood. After all the gravemind is pretty smart, and can be remade by a large mass of flood grouping together. Who knows, maybe there is a different gravemind already there with new and more developed strains of flood trying to wipe out the forerunners.

The gravemind did refer to the chief as the son of the forerunners, or the heir, or something I have not played through campaign in a while. But the point is he alludes to a connection between John, if not all humans, and the forerunners. If you read all of this, I commend you for your patience.

  • 06.08.2009 3:19 PM PDT

I hate the Flood :( but good theory :)

  • 06.08.2009 3:26 PM PDT
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the will to win is the will to destroy

"the sins of the father passed onto his son"
is what the gravemind says on the level cortana

  • 06.08.2009 3:28 PM PDT
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Halo wars, for a part of the game, takes place on and in a shield world so there are more.

  • 06.08.2009 3:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: PhoenixSpartan5
Halo wars, for a part of the game, takes place on and in a shield world so there are more.
I really should've known that =/. I'm stuck on that level on legendary setting.

  • 06.08.2009 3:32 PM PDT
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your actualy right about the humans and forerunners. in contact harvest the book showed that the covenant believed humans to be descendants of the forerunners, but worse technology. kinda like an indian reservation that is stripped of its culture. anyway, the covenant keep it all hushed up but thats how they kept finding humans all the time and why they were so relentless.

READ THE BOOKS=AWESOMENESS

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  • 06.08.2009 3:33 PM PDT
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and yes the humans are the forerunners aka reclaimer. that why humans can activate forerunner tech with touch and why the war happened in the first place. the profits before they where profits, found out that the humans where forerunners and began to destroy them, because humans proved that their religion was false, that their is no great journey

  • 06.08.2009 3:38 PM PDT
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in case they ever had to fire the halos in order to kill off the flood[/quote]

If the assumption that there is more than one shield world is accepted then it is pretty logical to assume also that they would put one by the ark. With such a devastating piece of technology, if the forerunners activated it then they would want out of there asap.


[quoteThe gravemind did refer to the chief as the son of the forerunners, or the heir, or something I have not played through campaign in a while. But the point is he alludes to a connection between John, if not all humans, and the forerunners. If you read all of this, I commend you for your patience.

The halo are designed to kill or cotroll any living being in their blast radius. From what I saw, the Halo act as a super nova (lots of radiation) that wipe out any humans being controlled by the flood and not. If the Flood are still alive, I belieave that either the initial launch sequence failed or they are immune to radiation.

The Ark is actually too far away from the blast of the Halos system, no worry there.

Humans are their descendant>same species.

But yeah, lots of things can happen if you go trow a slipspace portal but the portal close when you are halfway in it, but worse, closed by an energy overload and or structural damage...

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  • 06.08.2009 3:42 PM PDT

i agree that it is a sheild world but I think it is onyx. Onyx could rebuild itself

  • 06.08.2009 3:42 PM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"

Not a bad theory though there are certainly some holes. MC arriving at a shield world would serve little purpose at this point I believe. The only direction I could see them going with that would be to find a way to get MC back to the member of Blue team and the others that were left at the end of Ghosts of Onyx. But I doubt they would make a game for something like that.

All in all this doesn't really tie into the Reach game, so you may wish to move it so it doesn't get locked.

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if it were onyx that would be sick. but it'd be out of the line of events. onyx is from the time john was on the 2nd halo (or HALO2 as we know it). its unlikely he can get there. even less after onyx's little incident

  • 06.08.2009 3:46 PM PDT