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Posted by: Uncle Screwtape
How I cut it:

ODST Disk w/ Firefight: $30

Mythic Map Pack 2: $10

Halo 3 Map Pack (Heroic-Mythic 1): Free
Why? BECAUSE I ALREADY PAYED FOR THEM!

Halo 3 Standalone Multiplayer: Free
Why? BECAUSE I ALREADY PAYED FOR IT!

Halo: Reach Beta: Free
Why? Because no respectable company makes you pay for a beta.

Total: $40

That's a $40 value, for $60! Yay Micro$oft!
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Here's a post of mine from another thread discussing content of games and such:

Here's the way I look at it. I'm going to compare it to Metal Solid 3 and its re-release Subsistence.

When Metal Gear Solid 3 was re-released, it was priced at $30. It included a third person camera for the main game, Metal Gear online, the MSX versions of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake*, the demo theater, the secret theater, more Snake vs Monkey missions, and the duel mode where you fight the bosses. And again, it was $30.

ODST has a campaign expansion, three new multiplayer maps, and a "horde" mode. It comes with all of the old multiplayer maps, and of course, the multiplayer itself. Forge and Theater mode are still in. You're not getting much new content and yet it's priced as a full game, $60. And no, the Halo Reach beta should not be considered in pricing. This is a nightmare for people who have already bought Halo 3 and all of the multiplayer maps. Do you guys not see what's wrong with this?

*These versions of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake were only available in Japan. Metal Gear 2 wasn't even released outside of Japan.


  • 06.08.2009 8:57 PM PDT

You guys are forgetting that shipping and handling, and all other third party processes are built into the game price.

And technically, recon IS worth money.
Seeing as you have to buy the Six mythic maps and ODST to get it.[

  • 06.08.2009 9:03 PM PDT
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ODST....60 dollars. If you look back and think about it, this makes perfect sense. Remember Halo? It was a great game! Then came Halo 2. Holy -blam!- that multiplayer was the mad note! Then, Bungie....super cool Bungie brought to us what promised to be the ultimate manifestation of multiplayer action in halo form....140? Ok....I get a cool helmet! 4 weeks later, that same 140 set was down to 80 at retail stores nation-wide! From that point on, Bungie has become very familiar with the rip off. Buy this map pack because it will never be free. You buy it, and its free 3 days later. Buy this map pack...it will never be free, for real! You bought it, sure that Bungie would not lie to you....4 days later, free! OMG! Limited edition super sick map for super cool players! Buy this or you fail at life! Exclusive to champions with money only!!!!!!!!!!! A week later, everyone is a champion....for free of course. with Halo ODST, you are getting a campaign; one Bungie says is worth 60 dollars....what you gonna do? Complain about the price but nobody other than your momma cares. Bungie say 60.....so give 60. You want a reason? Here you are....I've got a few for you...

Pay for lots of Bungie employees--------Millions of Dollars
Pay for publishing and assorted game development fees------Millions of Dollars
Pay for Disc print-------This is actually a close to nothing fee....like 50 cents per disc....but still maybe a few million Dollars?
Time Bungie puts in as they try their asses off to make a game that appeals to an impossible number of people and at the same time, keeps everyone happy so that they don't cry and commit suicide-----priceless

I think 60 is a lot....but games have been priced at 50 since at least n64....so this is nothing new. All of you will complain and ultimately, cave and buy it. When you do, get on-line and scream about how you shot that guy in the head, and how you stuck that guy but it just fell off. When you are tired of all the "cheating" that Halo does, message me on my gamertag and my posse and I will give you and your posse an ass kicking of such intensity, that you will pay Bungie another 60 dollars just to take away your copy of Halo ODST (and the separate disc with the new and not improved copy of halo 3's multiplayer). This will solve 2 things. One, you will be one less 12 year old with that squeaky almost a girl but not quite a girl's voice that I have to yell at in matchmaking because all you do is say you want the sniper and call your team peepee touching flexi dongs cause they don't wear Hayabusa helmets and two, by paying Bungie more money, you will be funding more of the games with the story I love....Maybe, if you cry enough, and I kill you enough, and you give Bungie enough money, they will mention you in the credits for Halo Reach!

I've typed this all during the few seconds between Double Team matches....it has taken almost 2 hours in total I think...you don't get much time...double team loads quickly. I am not gonna spell check it, I'm not checking grammar; you should all get what I mean. If you don't I feel so sorry for you. Give your mother my blessings. Also, don't bother replying to my post, I don't come to this site, I don't read things that little babies send me...ignoring is one of my favorite things to do and I will exercise my rights to ignore as frequently as possible.

Take care everyone! Viva the Halo Story...not so much Bungie and their stupid beatdown-beatdown system....worst mistake ever.




[Edited on 06.08.2009 11:18 PM PDT]

  • 06.08.2009 11:10 PM PDT
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Oh, also, Mr. AK, shut your noise making face whole. Everyone knows we are getting conned. I am mad....soooooo mad that I bought maps that these people are getting at no extra cost. If I already own the maps, I should be credited the points I purchased it for....but I won't be....and you won't be. We knew eventually, the maps would be free....we knew cause thats what Bungie does....since forever. You did not wanna be patient....I did not wanna be patient...and so now we are out 20 dollars more that the only 2 guys in the world that decided not to buy the maps. See, that is the beauty though.....like 97% of Halo Players already have the maps. So you're not alone....but unless you can rally everyone and arrange a boycott of Bungie and maybe even some kind of nude streaking party through their offices, the game will stay at 60 dollars....and at 60 dollars, you will buy it...wrong or not.

P.S. if you get that boycott and/or streaking set up....let me know....I'm totally in. I'll be line leader even!

  • 06.08.2009 11:17 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Posted by: SnakeRunner40
I will create 2 versions of this. First, the Main version:

The Reason ODST Will Be $60:
First, the campaign was extended. It can last up to 7 hours if you play at a moderate pace and are skilled depending on the difficulty, due to free roam. Now to my Pricing idea.
Campaign: $20 USD
Firefight: $20 USD
MMP 2: $10 USD
Recon: $10 USD

Campaign: halo 3's was the absolute worst of the series, followed closely by Halo 2's. I am not impressed with ANOTHER campaign, that spans both games.

Firefight: Depends on how many maps are available, and if there will be more released as DLC. If there are only the 2 maps, it doesn't matter how much fun it is, the mode will get stale.

Mythic map pack 2: Sure. Market price $10. The issue is if the only way to buy the MM2 pack is to buy ODST. Then there is an issue.

Recon:
An unlockable set of digital armor. 1, only 1. Nothing else. No other game charges $10 for a player skin. Example: Dead Space.

It is NOT worth $10.

  • 06.08.2009 11:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: Viper Skills
People need to stop trying to price everything that is in the game, because if you really wanted to price it all, it wouldn't make $60.00.

Bottom line is, it will be 60 bucks and if you don't want to fork the cash for it, don't. If you do, then cool.

I myself would pay much, much more for this game if required. It's all about supply and demand and Halo games are always in demand.
I'd pay more than $100 for the LE, and I did get the LE. I don't mind. Version 2 is mocking some of the less intelegent people on here.

  • 06.09.2009 3:22 AM PDT
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Posted by: karson98k
plus the beta
People whine too much when you put that on prices.

Posted by: Ksychutrya
And everybody rents those crappy movie games, they don't sell. Please look at Halo 3's numbers. There is a good reason why they sell. Halo 3 is really only worth sixty dollars. I only own AAA games for the Xbox 360. I own no movie games. Most people rent movie games for $8 if they really like them. Also, movie games are ussually $10 a month after they release. There are only 3 maps here, please don't kid yourself. Firefight is the equivalent of Horde and -blam!- Zombies, not really much more then a "bonus" mode. Also the Halo Campaigns have not been rated highly since Halo:CE, and don't last much longer then movie games.
And everyone likes those bonus modes more than the real game.

Posted by: Uncle Screwtape
How I cut it:

ODST Disk w/ Firefight: $30

Mythic Map Pack 2: $10

Halo 3 Map Pack (Heroic-Mythic 1): Free
Why? BECAUSE I ALREADY PAYED FOR THEM!

Halo 3 Standalone Multiplayer: Free
Why? BECAUSE I ALREADY PAYED FOR IT!

Halo: Reach Beta: Free
Why? Because no respectable company makes you pay for a beta.

Total: $40

That's a $40 value, for $60! Yay Micro$oft!
No, Yay for Cheap! Just pay for it, every other game is $60. What do you expect to get from this besides for mocking by both forum goers?

Posted by: ultratog1028
why most people bicker over the price? bungie has families to feed too.
That is what I mean. I'm not complaining, just pointing out easy to see things and mocking people who are acting like idiots.

Posted by: xKLames1x
Let's see plastic case with paper inside maybe $5. Made somewhere in Asia.
A cd? I can buy like 50 cd's for $15. At retail.

5+15=20???
Why should any of these games be 60$ games should be 45$ at most retail. its redic, and shows the greediness of the industry...However, I can't make it myself, so I'll buy. Screw it, it's just money I'm trading for it anyway.
They are higher due to achievements. They went up after the 360. You ARE paying for achievements, normally. But not here.

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  • 06.09.2009 3:23 AM PDT
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Posted by: SnakeRunner40
The Reason ODST Will Be $60


Greed.

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Posted by: j7holdfastjack7
Recon is NOT worth $

  • 06.09.2009 4:24 AM PDT

I don't mind paying $60 knowing that Bungie needs to paid all there employees for all there hard work. :)

  • 06.09.2009 4:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: Abe Froman xx
Posted by: SnakeRunner40
The Reason ODST Will Be $60


Greed.
Read

  • 06.09.2009 5:21 AM PDT

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I don't see the logic behind the figures assigned to each feature.

Why? Because it is your opinion. Some might feel Firefight is only worth $10. Or that Recon is worth $0. Fact is, you simply cannot judge how much each segment of the game is worth.

The reason people are angry about the $60 price tag is because all they are being given is one new mode, a shorter campaign, and three new maps. With Halo 3, they were given Forge, MM, Customs, Theatre, a 10 hour campaign, 11 maps... Plus a number of other features such as file sharing and armour customisation. Relative to Halo 3, ODST is probably only worth $30.

[Edited on 06.09.2009 5:51 AM PDT]

  • 06.09.2009 5:49 AM PDT
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Don't try pricing features shipped with a game. It's a waste of time. If I was to price The Orange Box based on the amount of content it has, it would be more expensive than what I bought it for (which, by the way, was $20 at Walmart).

My advice to those who don't want to fork over $60 for ODST: Rent it. I'm on the fence with this game and I will more than likely rent it at Blockbuster. That or sell my copy of Halo 3.

  • 06.09.2009 6:04 AM PDT

Yeah, I'm not buying that game for $60. If you think it's worth $60 you've got issues. If Bungie didn't have such a strong base of fanboys they would start a boycott like the Valve guys.

  • 06.09.2009 6:07 AM PDT

Posted by: guitardude006
Don't try pricing features shipped with a game. It's a waste of time. If I was to price The Orange Box based on the amount of content it has, it would be more expensive than what I bought it for (which, by the way, was $20 at Walmart).

My advice to those who don't want to fork over $60 for ODST: Rent it. I'm on the fence with this game and I will more than likely rent it at Blockbuster. That or sell my copy of Halo 3.



I'm looking into burning it. Not sure if that's still possible though.

  • 06.09.2009 6:07 AM PDT
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Posted by: peoples champ36
Posted by: guitardude006
Don't try pricing features shipped with a game. It's a waste of time. If I was to price The Orange Box based on the amount of content it has, it would be more expensive than what I bought it for (which, by the way, was $20 at Walmart).

My advice to those who don't want to fork over $60 for ODST: Rent it. I'm on the fence with this game and I will more than likely rent it at Blockbuster. That or sell my copy of Halo 3.



I'm looking into burning it. Not sure if that's still possible though.

Man, with today's technology, anything is possible. I just hope the machines don't try to take over the world. I saw Terminator: Salvation. I saw what they could do!

  • 06.09.2009 6:10 AM PDT
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Oh teh noes!!! People have their own will to use their money?!?!?!?!? the insanity!!!!!
Honestly people , no matter what you do the price will not change , if you don't have the money then don't buy it. Simple as that , now stop complaining about something you can't control.

  • 06.09.2009 6:26 AM PDT

"War, war never changes..." -Fallout 3

Recon does not cost $ you must earn it by achievements (vidmasters).That 10$ should be for the maps.

  • 06.09.2009 6:56 AM PDT
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I am 1337

Who cares we will all by the game if u cant ccome up with 60 till when ever the game comes out. Then how da-blam!- did you get a xbox?

  • 06.09.2009 6:59 AM PDT

the game itself is worth imo £10-20 easily

firefight is worth £5 - 15

halo multiplayers worth £5 - 15 again

all map packs are worth £20 imo, probably more with the new 3 maps included... like £30 at least

recon, reach beta = like £5

extras they may include = £ extra money

so £75 - 85 of content high end almost, thats like what kindof 120 USD?? its worth it if you think about it, just its not as worth it as other games might be. its all very diluted but when you look at it its easily a good deal.. if i needed a controller, that deal would also be amazing. cheap game and cheap controller... id pay the £40-50 for this game, and online deals will probably make it cheaper even yet... preorders and such...

stop complaining!

personally i dont need mythic, heroic, halo multiplayer.. and i would of been happy without firefight.... but thats an amazing bonus... you should all stop complaining its still a good game deal.

[Edited on 06.09.2009 7:11 AM PDT]

  • 06.09.2009 7:09 AM PDT

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  • 06.09.2009 7:15 AM PDT

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Campaign: $30 USD
Firefight: $20 USD
Mythic V2: $10 USD

Showing your friends you have Recon, priceless

  • 06.09.2009 7:52 AM PDT
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Posted by: SnakeRunner40
Posted by: Abe Froman xx
Posted by: SnakeRunner40
The Reason ODST Will Be $60


Greed.
Read


I did and it's just another fanboy post.

  • 06.09.2009 8:11 AM PDT
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Posted by: peoples champ36
Yeah, I'm not buying that game for $60. If you think it's worth $60 you've got issues. If Bungie didn't have such a strong base of fanboys they would start a boycott like the Valve guys.
Those Valve protesters are idiots.

  • 06.09.2009 8:13 AM PDT

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It's been over a year since Halo 3 was released. Bungie need to feed themselves, and it's pretty much an entire games worth of development as the campaign has a new engine.

from what i've seen of it, I'd love ODST to have its own multiplayer like H3 does now. It obviously needs to be played differently because of lack of shield/super soldieryness

  • 06.09.2009 8:14 AM PDT