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Subject: Could The Rookie be a Spartan I?

Hush. If you’re quiet enough, you can hear it on lips of unborn babes.

After much discussion in a similar thread, I decided to make this thread in hopes of finding the answer to the question:Is the ODST we will play as in Halo 3 ODST actually a Spartan secretly working for ONI?

Before answering, take the time to read (this post) by opogjijijp discussing the possibility of Johnson being a Spartan. I believe this proves that there are actual Spartan I's still alive and fully functional.

Think about it;Why is an ODST being called The Rookie instead of having a name like his fellow squad mates? He may actually be a "rookie", which means he is new to the job. What I'm implying is that ONI, or any other organization for that matter, could have deployed someone to go undercover and pose as a "average, every-day" ODST.

We know that the Spartan I program was a very hush-hush topic and was described as unsuccessful. This is what the government wants the people to think but I believe there were a few who were deemed "successful Spartan I's". What I don't understand is why they would want to keep it a secret from the public. Is is because they only save them for top secret missions such as the one the ODST's undertake in H3:ODST?


This is the info we have on the ROOKIE from "Meet The Squad":

The ROOKIE
Full name: [classified]
Blood type: O+
Height: 186cm
Weight: 88kg


Rating: Lance Corporal (LCpl/E3)
Unit: [classified]
Service number: 11282-31220-JD
Enlistment date: 07/07/2547
Location: Crisium City, Naniwa, Luna


Born: Crisium City, Naniwa, Luna
Gender: M
Citizen: Lunar
Age: [classified]
Occupation: Student


This Marine was recently transferred from the 26th MEF, part of a Rapid Offensive Picket that suffered near-annihilation at New Jerusalem, Cygnus. Like most ODSTs, his actions speak louder than words.


I also noticed the Rookie's service number. The ODST's seem to have a series of numbers and then the initials of their first and last name(Edward Buck=92458-37017-EB.) The Rookie's service number ends with the letters JD. Who could he be?


*EDIT:There is much controversy surrounding the fact that many of you think in order for the Rookie to be an Spartan I he'd have to be "really old." I personally believe that the name "Rookie" would be a nice cover up if the person really is old.
But just because he/she is given the title of Rookie doesn't necessarily make him/her young. Read the BWU from 11/21/08.


And no one would suspect him to be an Spartan I since he/she would be so young right?
How about this idea:The Rookie is a Spartan 1.1, the child of a Spartan 1.


What do you all think?

Thanks opogjijijp:

Some facts about project ORION/The Spartan-I program:
In order to deal with increasing civil turmoil the Colonial Military Administration had secretly launched Project ORION back in 2491. The purpose of the program was to develop super soldiers codenamed "Spartans," who would receive special training and physical augmentation.

The Initial effort was successful, and in 2517 a new group of Spartans , the II-series, had been selected as the new generation of supersoldier.


Project ORION, the original SPARTAN project - the first attempt by the Colonial Military Administration to create and train teams of super-soldiers for covert military operations in the Outer Colonies - is deactivated. Though the Spartans are effective, their abilities fall short of original expectations, and they are far too expensive to develop and field. The soldiers in the program are reassigned to various special operations units.




Thanks Fai57:
Posted by: Fai57
People keep on pointing out how being called "Rookie" immediately rules out him being a Spartan. He could be just a new ODST, or new in the unit, hence the nickname. Maybe he just joined the unit and no one else in it knows him. Maybe they haven't seen him out of his helmet. They might not have seen him in action yet. Any of these could be the reason for "Rookie."

And for all the people who say "HE IS AN ODST! OMG!" who says that Bungie is telling us the entire truth? An ODST is just a job description. If a Spartan became an ODST, wouldn't they be called such?

I don't know much of the intense specifics on the background of Halo, but I'm just pointing out logical possibilities. Take them how you will.




[Edited on 07.08.2009 1:44 PM PDT]

  • 06.09.2009 9:20 AM PDT

omfg, please stop with the theories on how the someone in the squad is a spartan, if they were spartans, they wouldn't be ODSTs

/thread.

  • 06.09.2009 9:22 AM PDT

Headshot... Sticky sticky... Headshot...Stab...Evade Stab Sticky Stab Stab evade Sticky Stab Headshot Sticky Sticky!

johnson is indeed one of the sparten I's becuase of his augumentations

but this was long before the rookie was enlisted so he couldnt have gotten the augumentations becuase all of the Sparten I's got it at the same time

  • 06.09.2009 9:23 AM PDT

/headdesk
x 1000

  • 06.09.2009 9:23 AM PDT

Hush. If you’re quiet enough, you can hear it on lips of unborn babes.

When Bungie gave information on the Squad in ODST, why was so much info about the Rookie classified?

  • 06.09.2009 9:23 AM PDT

Headshot... Sticky sticky... Headshot...Stab...Evade Stab Sticky Stab Stab evade Sticky Stab Headshot Sticky Sticky!

its bungie being lazy

besides if hes a sparten why cant he walk and jump like one?

  • 06.09.2009 9:25 AM PDT

Posted by: RobbinYoBiskitz
When Bungie gave information on the Squad in ODST, why was so much info about the Rookie classified?


because you ere supposed to fill in the details your self, like his age would be your age, his name would be your name, just to make you more connected with the character you were playing as.

  • 06.09.2009 9:25 AM PDT

Same reason you never see Master Chief's face, nor do you know his name unless you read the books (Or until the end of H3). It's a clever psychology thing that makes you feel as if you're actual running around, gunning as a Spartan/ODST. I mean, if you play GoW you never feel like you're Marcus Fenix, etc.

  • 06.09.2009 9:26 AM PDT

Hush. If you’re quiet enough, you can hear it on lips of unborn babes.

Think of Johnson....Does he walk and jump like a Spartan?

  • 06.09.2009 9:26 AM PDT

Headshot... Sticky sticky... Headshot...Stab...Evade Stab Sticky Stab Stab evade Sticky Stab Headshot Sticky Sticky!

to those who dont know like longbow pointed out MC's name is John

  • 06.09.2009 9:27 AM PDT

Wonder what Bungie have in store for use after Reach?

Some people had the same thought that DARE was a Spartan, she isn't and I don't think that the Rookie would be a Spartan.

  • 06.09.2009 9:28 AM PDT

The rookie is not a spartan. He is called the rookie because you are putting yourself in his shoes, and the fact that he seems to be a newbie in the ODSTs.

  • 06.09.2009 9:39 AM PDT

Posted by: ehpik lulz
No.

  • 06.09.2009 9:41 AM PDT

Hush. If you’re quiet enough, you can hear it on lips of unborn babes.

Posted by: RetroDETONATION
The rookie is not a spartan. He is called the rookie because you are putting yourself in his shoes, and the fact that he seems to be a newbie in the ODSTs.


I see. But don't you think he has any kind of backstory? We didn't see Mc's face because we were supposed to feel like we were the Master Chief but at least he had his own story...

  • 06.09.2009 9:51 AM PDT

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No even bungie said no spartans in this game.

  • 06.09.2009 9:53 AM PDT
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Posted by: FRI R3gret
Posted by: ehpik lulz
No.

  • 06.09.2009 9:55 AM PDT

JOHNSON IS A SPARTAN (or a minimon a early spartan project) and no one is exsept mc and does it realy matter becuse with the amout of covy the odst take out are allmost as mutch as a spartan

  • 06.09.2009 9:56 AM PDT

This is the way the world ends,
This is the way the world ends,
This is the way the world ends;
Not with a bang but a whimper.

I like the idea of the Rookie being the child of a spartan I. What if he was Johnson's child? Maybe a reason for Johnson being in firefight? That also could explain a little bit why he didn't die on impact.

  • 06.09.2009 9:59 AM PDT

If the Rookie was a Spartan-I he would be -at least- 69 years old. The whole "Spartan-I.I" thing could be possible though...

  • 06.09.2009 10:00 AM PDT

Eat it

Posted by: Trap51b
Posted by: FRI R3gret
Posted by: ehpik lulz
No.

  • 06.09.2009 10:01 AM PDT

My future is certain, I will one day fly away. All because I am saved from the penalty of sin. I know he lives.

He flunked out of Spartan Training, because of Turff Toe, but landed a job with the ODST's. They have more comforatable shoes. With better arch support.

  • 06.09.2009 10:04 AM PDT

My future is certain, I will one day fly away. All because I am saved from the penalty of sin. I know he lives.

In some of the audio takes, he did say that "Halo 4 he was garantied a woman, so yah, that makes great sence.

If this is a double post, i couldn't help it.

Posted by: xXIHAYD0IXx
I like the idea of the Rookie being the child of a spartan I. What if he was Johnson's child? Maybe a reason for Johnson being in firefight? That also could explain a little bit why he didn't die on impact.

  • 06.09.2009 10:07 AM PDT

This is the way the world ends,
This is the way the world ends,
This is the way the world ends;
Not with a bang but a whimper.

A little bit of evidence supporting the whole "the Rookie should have died on impact" thing.
Quote from Gameinformer's december '08 issue:
"Hey Rookie, you out there?" says the squad commander into the radio as he walks along the sun-drenched rooftops of New Mombasa with Romeo.

"Even if he ain't dead, he's lost in that stuff," Romeo says.
"Our comms can't cut through that."

"So give up, huh? What if it was you down there?"

"Just sayin'. I ain't dead."

"You're a piece of work, Romeo."

end quote.

The part of the story goes some more. So it seems Romeo thinks the Rookie is dead. Or maybe not dead but "...lost in that stuff..." It seems that a Spartan I or Spartan 1.1 would have a better chance of survival than a regular ODST. Regular being relative.

EDIT- Sorry if it's not a perfect quote.

[Edited on 06.09.2009 10:10 AM PDT]

  • 06.09.2009 10:09 AM PDT