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Subject: Could The Rookie be a Spartan?

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The reason Master Chief can jump so high is because of armor just because he is a spartan dosn't meen he can jump super high plus the spartan 1's did not have super powerful armor the were like the past ODST's

  • 07.10.2009 3:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Thunderbolt 98
The reason Master Chief can jump so high is because of armor just because he is a spartan dosn't meen he can jump super high plus the spartan 1's did not have super powerful armor the were like the past ODST's


The fact that past Spartan 1's didn't have armor has nothing to do with the fact that the Rookie(if he is, in fact, a Spartan 1) does have armor. Also, the Chief and all the other Spartan II's were augmented with abilites beyond that of a normal human. The armor added to these abilities but was not the only reason for them.

  • 07.10.2009 3:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: RobbinYoBiskitz
Think of Johnson....Does he walk and jump like a Spartan?

yes


Not that he will be in the Campaign or anything but Johnson is included in this game. So we do know there will be at least one Spartan 1 in the game.

  • 07.10.2009 5:41 PM PDT
Subject: Could The Rookie be a Spartan I?

Possible, but I highly doubt it. The game is supposed to let you experience gameplay from an ODST style, not spartan style.

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  • 07.10.2009 5:45 PM PDT

Hey Bob, what are those things jumping across the rooftops like majestic warriors dressed as Spartans with their heads on fire?

Oh, that's just the Bungie ninjas. Mess with them and they'll bring a hammer down on your head that's so big, they have to keep it on Jupiter 'cause it won't fit on Earth.

dude. no. do you even know where this takes place? in the city after like the second level in Halo 2 when the big ship does the warp thing. you are sent in to cleanup the remaining forces. you ARE the last spartan or else they would put you up front like Sierra 117 and have you doing more than the cleanup work. Srsly, cmon. They not stupid.
Lol what if you are b****rd child of some brute and REALLY desperate human. lol jk but would be über funny.

[Edited on 07.10.2009 6:19 PM PDT]

  • 07.10.2009 6:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: YimYimYimi
dude. no. do you even know where this takes place? in the city after like the second level in Halo 2 when the big ship does the warp thing. you are sent in to cleanup the remaining forces. you ARE the last spartan or else they would put you up front like Sierra 117 and have you doing more than the cleanup work. Srsly, cmon. They not stupid.
Lol what if you are b****rd child of some brute and REALLY desperate human. lol jk but would be über funny.


Look here dude, the ODST's we play as were headed to Delta Halo along with the Chief until DARE changed the course of the squad.

  • 07.10.2009 6:44 PM PDT
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Proof!

John D.

It is obvious that Bungie just LOVES naming their main characters John.

  • 07.10.2009 6:46 PM PDT

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ODST QUOTE:You know the music, time to dance!
ODST MOTO:Feet First Into Hell

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Posted by: Calvin07
no hes an odst and your stupid for thinking he is one,theres only 1 spartan left , but if you base your theories of books 2 spartans 1 girl named kelly i think and chief


Oh. Ok. Anyone else?

what about linda and kurt?
kurt got killed by lots of elites (well maybe 1 and the elite was a leader with sword)and linda i thnk died from fuel rod,or i can be wrong she lived but kelly is still alive,and chief but who doesnt now hes still alive, you cant kill him!

  • 07.10.2009 6:51 PM PDT

Hey Bob, what are those things jumping across the rooftops like majestic warriors dressed as Spartans with their heads on fire?

Oh, that's just the Bungie ninjas. Mess with them and they'll bring a hammer down on your head that's so big, they have to keep it on Jupiter 'cause it won't fit on Earth.

DARE? I don't do drugs, silly...

  • 07.10.2009 6:52 PM PDT

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  • 07.10.2009 6:59 PM PDT

i seriously doubt it, but if anything, he'd be a spartan III

  • 07.10.2009 8:25 PM PDT
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Interesting theory, I don't think that will happen, but who knows for sure.
This is Bungie we are dealing with after all.

Posted by: p00b0ne
i seriously doubt it, but if anything, he'd be a spartan III


That is impossible though. The only remaining Spartan 3s are in Onyx.

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  • 07.10.2009 8:46 PM PDT

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he is a normal marine
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  • 07.10.2009 9:05 PM PDT
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Ok there are multiple problem with a spartan ODST undercover... one is the fact that spartans were large, even without there Mjolnir armor, they are fast enough that (without there armor) soldiers in the original Mjolnir super exoskeleton could not keep up with them and got their *** kicked kinda gives away a spartan and the fact that basic training would have been an absolute breeze for a soldier trained in boot from the age of 6 to the age of 16 when they were first sent into opperations

THEN you have to look at the spartan's teamwork communications... they didnt just use Comm gear, they used lightning fast twitches, nods and other such gestures to pass orders.

Although the idea is interesting, and makes SOME sense, more facts look at the odst just being an average person.

  • 07.10.2009 9:29 PM PDT
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Kurt blew himself up using a nuke inside the shield world Onyx, telling the elite something along these lines "didn't you know, spartans never die?" then CLICK

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I doubt him being a Spartan 1...if he was he'd be sent to the front lines with Master Chief. I could believe him being a Spartan 1.1, though.

Wait, wait...what if he was actually an Elite in disguise, sent to infiltrate the UNSC forces and end the feud between Spartans and Elites in Matchmaking?

[Edited on 07.10.2009 9:36 PM PDT]

  • 07.10.2009 9:32 PM PDT

Ding Ding!

Posted by: blarghonk2
I beleive that this theory is probably correct, and I'd like to add a few more supporting points.
For the age thing there is a very good reason why the rookie may still be young: Cryogenics. Non-essential UNSC personel are put into cryo sleep during slipspace jumps, and your body dosen't age during this period, meaning that military personel often live a lot longer, especially if they spend a lot of time jumping between systems. The chief is actually over 60 in the events of halo 3, but he still has the body of a 30 year old because of all the time he has spent in cryo.


The Chief is actually in his early 40s during the events of the Halo trilogy, not in his 60s. And yes, while it is true that people go into cryosleep during slipspace jumps, most of those jumps only take a matter of weeks, or at most a few months to get to the extreme outer colonies. Though the jumps would definitely add up over time, I think assuming that marines spend decades in cryo is stretching things a little. I suppose it's possible in certain cases, but it's certainly not the norm. Furthermore, the Rookie only joined the marines in 2547 (just five years before the games take place), and was previously a student, which would imply that he is relatively young.

Posted by: blarghonk2
This next part is based on the ODST name change trailer. The superintendent is watching the rookies vehicle crash, and at 0:56 seconds he estimates the fatality rate at 99.99%
The superintendent then attempts to identify the vehicle, and runs the vehicles ID through the new mombassa police department database, and finds no match. He then runs it through the UNSC database, and then has his search terminated by ONI, and his data core is shut down. Obviously someone dosen't want the rookies identity being known.When his data core comes back online, and we next see the rookies pod at 1:34, the fatality estimate is at 00.52%. Obviously the rookie is something more than human, as he can easily survive crashes that would have killed a normal human with ease.


Remember that the Superintendent is a "dumb" AI, and has limited self-awareness and understanding of events outside of his main programming. In the trailer you can see that he interpreted the Rookie's impact as a typical car accident, and as such estimated that the Rookie's chances of survival were low. He didn't understand that the vehicle that crashed was a military-grade, reinforced drop pod, and thought it was simply a car. Once the drop pod's hatch begins to open however, the Superintendent realizes that there are still signs of life and adjusts his survival estimates accordingly. It's not that the Rookie is a Spartan, it's just that the Superintendent misinterpreted the crash.

I would also suggest that ONI's termination of the Superintendent's search has nothing to do with the Rookie specifically, and more to do with the mission as a whole. Remember that Dare is an ONI officer, and had the Rookie's squad transfered to her command for an unknown mission. She didn't even inform the other members of the squad (apart from perhaps Buck) what she really had in mind for them, so it would make sense that ONI would not want a civilian AI to learn too much.

  • 07.10.2009 9:37 PM PDT
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After reading the guys theory and evidence to back it up i am honestly convinced that Johnson could be a Spartan 1 and i honestly thought i wasnt gonna believe him until i read it thouroully and it would make sense why Johnson is such a Bad ASS and can take out groups of Covi by himself but there is no possible way that the Rookie is a Spartan

  • 07.10.2009 9:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sp4rt4n119
Thank you sir, that was an epic rendition of this topic.


Posted by: Xx KNOX xX
and how!

Your theory is fail. You are taking nothing and trying to make it into something.

He is called "The Rookie" because it sets an air of mystery about him. It is easier to put yourself in his shoes and feel more like the game is about yourself that way, rather than feel like you're playing as someone else. The same thing was strived for in Halo 1.

Next onto what you said about his service number. It follows suit with all the others. So what if the last two letters are JD? Maybe his initials are JD. GODDAMN that was difficult.

And as for why he is referred to as "The Rookie"....he is a Rookie. In Gears of War 2 Benjamin Carmine is referred to as "The Rook", obviously meaning he is a Rookie. That was really tough too.

  • 07.10.2009 10:35 PM PDT
Subject: Could The Rookie be a Spartan?

O Rly?

Posted by: Spartan R76
omfg, please stop with the theories on how the someone in the squad is a spartan, if they were spartans, they wouldn't be ODSTs

/thread.

  • 07.10.2009 11:29 PM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
I'd love to be a 10 year old and tell my mom I'm going on an adventure out into the world catching Pokemon, with her full support. Never mind the fact that there are rapists, criminals, and murders out there, or the fact that I may get killed by a Pokemon.

Luckily I have Pikachu.

If he was a Spartan I then why would he be a Lance Corporal?

  • 07.10.2009 11:52 PM PDT