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Subject: ODST mistake

There were Brutes in Halo: First Strike, which happens between Halo CE and 2, so the appearance of Brutes isn't surprising.

  • 07.18.2009 7:52 PM PDT

A very concise explanation was given. ODST more or less begins at the exact timeframe that Elites are shifted out of the combat operations while Brutes are put into the main military role. While some may find it odd since it appears at first in Halo 2 that the death of the Prophet of Regret was what initiated the change of hats, it was always Truth's intent to switch them, as it seems. Regret's murder was actually already "scheduled" in a sense (I recall that Cortana received a transmition during Delta Halo that stated he was to go before the council to ask forgiveness; see how the Arbiter was treated), so chances are that it was simply convenient that the Master Chief killed Regret, and made it seem reasonable for Elites and Brutes to switch. I think this setup elaborates on the complex planning of Truth.

That being said, Brutes suck and Elites rule.

  • 07.18.2009 7:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: DethrilBlade
I betcha there will be elites...due to the fact that the civil war hadn't started yet...but I think the brutes are there mainly because all the Elites were busy on Delta Halo being the Covenants head army at the time... brutes were the backups till the elites were "fired"

To start, there will be no elites. Bungie has stated that the brutes are the main enemies because well, who to leave: your lead soldiers, or someone a little more expendable? The answer was the brutes (at the time, the expendable ones). So, elites go fight the Chief on Halo while the Brute hold Earth.

  • 07.18.2009 8:02 PM PDT

ummmm, except the Halo 3 campaign doesn't come with Halo ODST. That's the reason I bought the damn game.

  • 07.18.2009 8:09 PM PDT

Every time you say something is old your dick shrinks.

i wonder if brutes eat bananas :3

  • 07.18.2009 9:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: CornetoGospel
Becuase Halo wouldnt be Halo without angry space gorilla's

Best part of Combat Evolved.

  • 07.18.2009 9:05 PM PDT

I want my steaks Luke...

In laymen terms,
Elites go bye-bye to delta halo, brutes fill place...

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[Edited on 07.18.2009 9:15 PM PDT]

  • 07.18.2009 9:14 PM PDT

In the end of Halo 1... That Elite wasn't hugging Sgt. Johnson... he was stealing his wallet

PLAY ELITE! I mean, comon! We're friggin' huge talking salamanders for god's sake! Whats not to love!!

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Posted by: DethrilBlade
I betcha there will be elites...due to the fact that the civil war hadn't started yet...but I think the brutes are there mainly because all the Elites were busy on Delta Halo being the Covenants head army at the time... brutes were the backups till the elites were "fired"

To start, there will be no elites. Bungie has stated that the brutes are the main enemies because well, who to leave: your lead soldiers, or someone a little more expendable? The answer was the brutes (at the time, the expendable ones). So, elites go fight the Chief on Halo while the Brute hold Earth.

uhhhh thats what i said

  • 07.18.2009 10:21 PM PDT

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Bungie stated that in the Halo Universe the prophets began the changing of the guards during the invasion of earth.

  • 07.18.2009 10:25 PM PDT

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Posted by: CornetoGospel
Becuase Halo wouldnt be Halo without angry space gorilla's
Yet Halo 1 did fine without them.

  • 07.18.2009 10:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Ghez Hokan
why there are brutes??? I thought at the time of halo 2 the elites were the enemies.?!?! why there are brutes now?

Last time I checked it was Halo3:ODST not Halo2.

It Takes place during Halo 2


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  • 07.18.2009 10:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: OneDudesMind76
if you wanna be smarter Trade in your halo 3 now before everyone else trades theirs in to buy this since it comes with full halo multiplayer there is no point to own the halo discs anymore. Trade now before the price goes down
There are two problems with this. The first being that Halo 3: ODST doesn't come with the original maps only the DLC maps so you'd be missing the original 11 unless you downloaded Halo 3 to your xbox 360 which isn't recommended. The second problem is that you can't go into Halo 3 matchmaking without your Halo 3 disk. Halo: ODST has been confirmed to have separate matchmaking since its only online feature is firefight and co-op campaign.

  • 07.19.2009 12:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: Guardian Hunter
Posted by: OneDudesMind76
if you wanna be smarter Trade in your halo 3 now before everyone else trades theirs in to buy this since it comes with full halo multiplayer there is no point to own the halo discs anymore. Trade now before the price goes down
There are two problems with this. The first being that Halo 3: ODST doesn't come with the original maps only the DLC maps so you'd be missing the original 11 unless you downloaded Halo 3 to your xbox 360 which isn't recommended. The second problem is that you can't go into Halo 3 matchmaking without your Halo 3 disk. Halo: ODST has been confirmed to have separate matchmaking since its only online feature is firefight and co-op campaign.


ur wrong tho
u get all halo 3 maps including DLC maps
yes u can go into halo 3 matchmaking, halo 3 odst comes with 2 disk

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  • 07.19.2009 12:49 AM PDT

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i noticed that, they left out elites but i guess conidering during that time the elites werent really trusted so none would be left on earth in case they would fight and kill the always loyal brutes

  • 07.19.2009 12:51 AM PDT

People, stop trying to rationalize/ explain things in ODST. Bungie's official answer to any inconsistency is "it's a -!BLAM!- game". They ( or M$) are just milking the Halo cash cow, so they're not concerned about whether or not things make sense in relation to the other games.

That's the whole point of the second disc: Bungie never intended ODST to be a full game. It was only going to be an expansion and then M$ was like, [speculation] "-!BLAM!- that! This is a Halo game! It's guaranteed to sell a million copies, we can't charge just $20 or $30! I don't care how short the game is: it's going to be $60!"

So Bungie threw in H3 multiplayer to try and justify the full game price. Oh and a spoonful of sugar called the Reach Beta. [again, speculation]

So buy the game, don't buy the game, whatever. Just don't waste your time trying to make sense of the (many) flaws and inconsistencies.

  • 07.19.2009 1:05 AM PDT

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[Edited on 07.19.2009 3:07 AM PDT]

  • 07.19.2009 3:03 AM PDT

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