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Subject: What the MLG community has requested to be included in reach

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Most of the ideas are good, but some of them just go a little far.

Like the melee wait time, if you're in close quarters and your gun is out you shouldn't have 1 melee then wait longer then it would have to reload.

I honestly believe the grenades are pretty well balanced. Not like call of duty grenades, but they're still pratical (I know spelling, get over it).

And I don't think you should be allowed to stack power-ups. Because then people will snag every power up for themselves and make no use of the first one while they leave there team hung to dry.

As far as the ranking system goes, Bungie is at the mercy of microsoft.

But alot of good stuff.

  • 06.10.2009 5:15 AM PDT
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I don't think dedicated servers are a good idea. They'll only be American, and Reach will be unplayable to the other 99.5% of the world.

  • 06.10.2009 5:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: DK daze
Dude I don't care and my grammer is perfect.I used "Big", as you recall it to mak is specific."to not do...",is incorrect beause "do" is present tense/perfect(or future) when it was a past tense.

Posted by: Champloo Who
Use the Halo: Combat Evolved spawn system

It produces better play than the current spawn system in H3, which is affected by the following factors:
- Location of teammate(s)
- Location of opposing player(s)
- Deaths of teammates in an area for 20 seconds
- Field of View/Line of Sight of opposing players
- Active Nade throws
- Which direction the flag has been pulled

And a plethora of other things.
I spawn right next to my enemies in halo CE at least 5 times more than in H3.

  • 06.10.2009 5:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: HaloHunter117
- model specific searches (if elites are included they could have the option to keep them out of certain gametypes eg MLG)


The only one I don't agree with. And all because alot of people like to whine and complain. In Halo 2 Elites were deemed "Easier to kill." Who's to say in Reach they won't be easier again? (Provided they are in Reach) Though I personally think there is no difference, and in Reach there will again be no difference.

Anyway, one thing I noticed would be great was a Customizable HUD. It would be great to custom tailor your HUD to fit your personal preferences. (For instance, I would prefer my shields right above the Motion Tracker like it was in Halo 2, I felt more aware of my health when it was right there.)

Oh yeah. Also, I think the animation times are ok, but the animation from grenade to grenade needs to be longer, to prevent grenade spam.

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  • 06.10.2009 6:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: TheCyberFreak
Some of those are good suggestions but MLG seems to have a problem understanding one core concept.

You're practicing to master a game.

This means that the mechanics of the game are the baseline environment that you're working to master. It is unreasonable to expect the game to conform to your expectations. If there's a specific mechanic involving how long it takes to fire your weapon after throwing a grenade then this is the mechanic that you need to work hard to accel at. People who do not have the skill to adapt to this mechanic do not get to the top. If you fail to get to the top you CANNOT blame the game. That's like a football player blaming the grass on the field for their loss.



This is so true.Look at the switch from Halo CE to Halo 2 The MLG community just had to deal with the changes and it worked fine.

But the switch from 2 to 3 they tried to make it as similar to what they were used to as possible. You guys should just deal with it , You already have your own playlist for god sake is that not enough ?.

  • 06.10.2009 6:29 AM PDT

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Psh, with a list that long, it seems like they just want the entire game to be:

Halo: MLG

Yeah. Why doesn't MLG just purchase a game development studio to make there own game?



ya mlg should make there own game and not turn halo:reach into halo:cheapo


MLG once considered making their own game I believe, but then opted not to. Why exactly, I am not sure. I wish they would. It would finally give the gaming market a competitive and challenging game to play. As for the future, I predict MLG will eventually make a game. In fact, give them time over the next 3 years as they continue to grow and I would bet you will see them making a game. Thats based on the fact that they are starting to gain TV time and such...it would just eventually make sense for them.

As for the comment "MLG should make their own game and not make Halo:Reach into Halo: Cheapo..." I just have to say "really?" Was there anything on that list that a normal Halo fan wouldn't want? No. You want as many options as possible for multiplayer. Everyone does. It allows us choice when we go to play games. MLG exists as a company to make money just as Bungie does, just as any company does. However, MLG also is in existence to offer gamers a choice when it comes to gaming. They dont pressure their gametypes on you. You don't have to play them. They are merely there to give gamers a choice when playing a game and MLGs presence and growing popularity will continue to give gamers a choice in the, now, more casual gaming environment.

So, don't hate the company. The company has done nothing wrong to hurt you, but instead, everything to benefit you, the consumer. Furthermore, don't wrap every supporter of MLG up into a stereotype based off of some of the people you've seen post and played with on live. Not all of us are jackasses. Normal Halo 3 fans have a stereotype too and most MLG supporters try not to wrap up the majority of casual gamers into that stereotype.

Furthermore, MLG has done nothing to impact matchmaking other than have their own gametype. The other changes have been done for balance purposes, not because MLG is forcing Bungie to do something. MLG is a small percentage of the market, they dont have that kind of pushing power. Don't complain saying MLG had anything to do with changes, instead complain to Bungie. However, take into consideration that obviously youre in the minority since the majority of people wanted change since Bungie altered something.

  • 06.10.2009 8:19 AM PDT

Posted by: Kuro420
I love watching people bash MLG. For the most part, the MLG community is a very friendly one, unlike the Halo community as a whole. The Halo community has to be one of the most outspoken and quick to judge communities there is. I am not saying that there are not amazing people in the Halo community, there are plenty, but they are overshadowed by the majority of people who see the letter MLG in the thread topic and decide to go post something like: "OMG fuk MLG. dey suk!!!11". I have yet to see a compelling argument as to why MLG is such trash. Simply put, there isn't one.


I agree, this MLG "hate" bandwagon is really pushed too far. I love how there was a thread posted just last week that wasn't at all dissimilar to this one, with many similar points put forward. I didn't see many people flaming or disagreeing in that thread solely because the OP hadn't mentioned MLG.....

On topic: I do agree with most of the ideas suggested, my only suggestion is that if forge makes a return in reach. Would it be possible to remove the chamfer from the edges of most blocks?, I find that generally it serves no purpose other than making the ground bumpy.

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K so to everyone who replied to my last post.

First Off I'd like to clear up the apparent contradictions in my post. One When i said MLG can be fun and non competitive i was serious, I've been playing halo competitively since the ce days, the pistol was my first love at the time :) jk but seriously the "MLG" fans in large part are the newer halo players joining in when h3 came and they think they can make money playing so they go to events and -blam!- and are basically just idiots. Me i play MLG like its a religion and have been for about 6 years and that's because its fun the game style appeals to me and a lot of other like minded players. Like i said before it just pisses me off because a lot of the kids replying to me are people that have a major grade 2 aaand started playing halo this year. They know really nothing. (I'm not bashing ranks) They are new and less experienced by far.

two my post sounded pompous and its because i am exactly that i'm cocky, its a video game who cares i'm sick at it so i think i have the right to tut my and the horn of MLG's through the success its had over the years and its expansion.

Three to all the people who called my post immature, your on the b.net forums calling me immature? is that not a bit contradictory in nature? i'm just giving my open minded opinion on matters in a thread in which my post is relevant. unlike yours.

Four To the guy who said something along the lines of calling me "a typical MLG player with an unoriginal gamertage.. My Gamer tag is Holickk yours has like half numbers in it and your date of birth so -blam!- off.

Five idealistically MLG would create its own super game but unfortunately i cannot see that happening at least in the near future. MLG comprises a good amount of halo fans i can assure you so i think it would make sense to make it appeal to everyone.

ON TOPIC AGAIN :)

So i stick with what i said before in the wants.

We need

1. hits can BR :)
2. smaller maps
3. halo 2 playstyles (faster)


----> Holickk ;)

ps. If your gonna post on the thread and Bash MLG. Please just -blam!- off :O :)

[Edited on 06.10.2009 8:58 AM PDT]

  • 06.10.2009 8:55 AM PDT
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Netcode is a good idea for sure

Hacking / cheating good idea

Country filters are an excellent idea - no more playing people from miles away with poor connections that are impossible to kill !!

Nice work dude

  • 06.10.2009 9:24 AM PDT

If they reduce how high you can jump, I'll hate it.

  • 06.10.2009 9:30 AM PDT

Call me Reach.

It would be awesome if the two communities would finally come together and resolve their differences.

MLG has some great ideas.

  • 06.10.2009 9:52 AM PDT

Your blood will clean the blood for now.

Hey blam you -blam!- MLG

  • 06.10.2009 9:58 AM PDT

Halo: CE > > Halo 3 > Halo: Reach = Halo 2

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Gameplay:
- Fall Damage
- Halo CE running speed
- Halo CE type spawns (Manipulating where your teammates spawn, etc.)
- Fix Teleporters so they're like Halo CE/Halo 2
- Crouching that actually matters in a gunfight (crouching low enough to dodge headshots and the like)
- Halo CE weapon timer spawns
- Less floaty jumps. Jumping lower
- Crouching to dodge melees
- Halo CE melee dynamics
- Halo CE Field of View (FOV)
- Better netcode (bullet registration, both client and server data collection)

Guns:
- Halo CE-esque gun ranges. This means where guns actually have some range.
- Halo CE Pistol OR a Rifle with Halo CE pistol's mechanics
- Halo CE Assault Rifle
- Halo CE Plasma Rifle (With Slow Down)
- Halo CE Rocket Launcher (Slow RoF, Huge Blast Radius)
- Halo CE Grenades (Slow fuse, huge blast radius and power)
- Halo CE Sniper (Fast RoF)
- Halo CE Shotgun
- Halo 3 Needler
- Halo 3 Plasma Pistol
- Halo 3 SMG
- Don't just add guns for the sake of adding them. Trying to balance all the guns made the gameplay of Halo 3 to suffer since there were way too many.

Maps:
- Prisoner remake
- Chill Out remake
- Blood Gulch remake
- Sidewinder remake
- Damnation remake
- Hang 'em High remake
- Lockout remake
- Midship remake
- Sanctuary remake
- Beaver Creek remake
- The Pit remake
- Guardian remake

Not asking for all the maps, but if they were to remake a few, they should be from this list.

Weapon control and map control should be two different things you have to fight for in this game. Not like in Halo 3 where practically all the power weapons spawn in power points on the map.

We want the game to return somewhat to what Halo CE set as the standard for the series. Medium paced gameplay with gun fights ranging from long range to short range, NOT rock-paper-scissors gameplay.

We (those who know the difference, and care) would very much appreciate this.



Go play Halo: CE noob!

..."were it so easy".

  • 06.10.2009 10:02 AM PDT


I love watching people bash MLG. For the most part, the MLG community is a very friendly one, unlike the Halo community as a whole. The Halo community has to be one of the most outspoken and quick to judge communities there is. I am not saying that there are not amazing people in the Halo community, there are plenty, but they are overshadowed by the majority of people who see the letter MLG in the thread topic and decide to go post something like: "OMG fuk MLG. dey suk!!!11". I have yet to see a compelling argument as to why MLG is such trash. Simply put, there isn't one.


I love watching people bash the Halo community. For the most part, the Halo community is a very friendly one, unlike the MLG community as a whole. The MLG community has to be one of the most outspoken and quick to judge communities there is. I am not saying that there are not amazing people in the MLG community, there are plenty, but they are overshadowed by the majority of people who see the number on someones service record and decide to go into the pregame lobby and say something like: "OMG fuk BK. You suk!!!11". I have yet to see a compelling argument as to why the Halo community in general is such trash. Simply put, there isn't one.

See what I did there?

  • 06.10.2009 10:08 AM PDT

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You were not supposed to post yet...

Posted by: iMariyo
Me i play MLG like its a religion and have been for about 6 years and that's because its fun the game style appeals to me and a lot of other like minded players.


No offence, I like MLG, but I just looked up your stats and you are a new account 50 with around 100 xp. If you really play MLG like it's an religion, how come you have to make a new account to rank up in it? And no offence, I just wonder.

Edit: Lifetime EXP: 845 Omg you're even xp boosting.
EXP Penalties: -738
Total EXP 107

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  • 06.10.2009 11:41 AM PDT
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Im liking alot of these ideas

  • 06.10.2009 11:59 AM PDT
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ohai...

Omg, 100 sensitivity, lmaoooooo...
Even an aim-bot couldn't control that haha.

  • 06.10.2009 12:34 PM PDT
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The Game.

Before I say anything, I would like to say I am not an MLG hater. I quite enjoy the good game of MLG every now and again.

I would like to say a few things. Firstly, we know next to nothing about Halo: Reach. We know it will be an FPS, but will it be a skirmish type game or traditionally Halo-Like? For instance, it could be like Quake Wars (for lack of a better example), a team of Aliens and a team of Humans, completing objectives etc. We don't know how big the maps will be, they could be massive (not good for MLG play). It might be class-based, like Team Fortress 2. There are numerous things it could be. For all we know, it might not even have PvP MP! A "multiplayer beta" is coming, but that could be multiplayer campaign for all we know.

One last thing. We don't know the weapons that will be available. If there's no Battle Rifle, MLG will be a bit screwed, are we in agreement? ;)

  • 06.10.2009 1:08 PM PDT

Mlg does not dictate what does into a game.

  • 06.10.2009 1:50 PM PDT
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If MLG has a hand in the game then I'm not buying it.
Period.

There's already too much garbage that any recreational gamer faces when trying to enjoy themselves online, without the incessant demands of a small group of elitist egomaniacs with pissy senses of entitlement.

[Edited on 06.10.2009 2:01 PM PDT]

  • 06.10.2009 1:56 PM PDT
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Recent K/D ratio 2:1

Recent games is either 1st or 2nd place mostly.

MLG sucks... :P

  • 06.10.2009 1:57 PM PDT

99% of those suggestions are golden.

  • 06.10.2009 2:03 PM PDT

Some of these requests are just plain -blam!- stupid - adjusting recoil rates? Gather up a group of programmers and make your own god damn game...

  • 06.10.2009 2:06 PM PDT