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Subject: What the MLG community has requested to be included in reach

Posted by: halomhm214423534
Posted by: FRI R3gret
Posted by: halomhm214423534
Posted by: FRI R3gret
I see your point, but still, some of the stuff.... No matter who asks it... Is just not needed.

Example:

less time between animations such as: faster weapon switching, faster zoom to shoot capabilities after thew weapon has been switched, faster shoot after the grenade has been thrown

Yeah well if you played halo 2 then you would remember getting a snipe kill and swapping to sword for a double. Halo 3 you get a snipe kill press Y wait eternity whilst getting your face shot off and giving the power weapon to the other team.


I did play Halo 2. And if recall corrctly, the sword gave the wielder the abilty to lunge before the actual sword was out. I can remember playing a friend of mine who wasn't too grand at no scopes but could own me at long range. So I decided to close in on him and fight him at close range. I did and fell over dead when he magically lunged at me half a second after seeing me. I was confused as to what happened. But my questions were answerd when a second later a big purple thing appeared in his hand. Plus, back in the H2 days, you couldn't see the weapon on your opponents side. That made the sword a problem. Get an unsuspecting enemy at close range and they had NO chance. The delay gives them that chance. Use a better example please.
I wasnt trying to argue with you but once they got 1 kill with it you knew they had it so not really that big of a deal. But some of the animations in halo 3 are ridiculously slow.


And that I will agree with. But I don't think its that big of a problem. If they are weapon annimations, which were they? Those may not even be in Reach.... Considering its a prequel.

  • 06.11.2009 10:50 AM PDT

I would agree with the animations on equipment. Those are incredibly slow and don't always work the same. But as for weapons those are fine.

  • 06.11.2009 10:51 AM PDT

Suck it Red!

Some of these are already in Halo 3. While the complete customization sounds cool, is it worth it? Would enough people use it and wouldnt it be annoying to have to change damage modifyer by 1% every time?

  • 06.11.2009 10:54 AM PDT

Posted by: Caboose042
Some of these are already in Halo 3. While the complete customization sounds cool, is it worth it? Would enough people use it and wouldnt it be annoying to have to change damage modifyer by 1% every time?
Barely any are in Halo 3 but whatever. And the damage modifier could be in a drop down box with all the percents.

  • 06.11.2009 10:57 AM PDT

I agree. Off the top of my head, the equipment is the only thing I can think of.

Posted by: ACTI0N TOM
I would agree with the animations on equipment. Those are incredibly slow and don't always work the same. But as for weapons those are fine.

  • 06.11.2009 11:01 AM PDT

Time between snipe shots reloads on some weapons

im not saying there is millions of them just a few. . .

  • 06.11.2009 11:03 AM PDT
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Wow, i have never seen such hate for something in my life. Someone mentions that he plays MLG and everyone immediately says "MLG sucks" and says that his ideas suck. I don't understand why none of the bungie.net fans want to see the game grow and be more customizable. It's like you guys want it to be as narrow and shallow as possible. The OP said he wants a BALANCED weapon set, he didn't say he wants a BR and nothing else. I for one am not a fan of trying to kill someone with an assault rifle across the map, but hey, thats just me.

And for those of you saying that you're "True Halo Fans", yet say you only care about the campaign and don't care if they make a good multi player system, WOW. MULTI PLAYER IS WHAT MAKES A GAME FUN TO PLAY YEARS AFTER IT CAME OUT. Halo 1, Halo 2, Halo 3. Do you not understand that? I don't know of anyone who wants to play through campaign over and over and over. I will play through campaign once. I'll go through each level and kill the same enemies over and over and be bored of it by the time it's over. Hooray. Thank God Bungie puts so much time in the multi player so the game is interesting for more than a day.

BTW: Never will you see posts on the MLG forums saying that "bungie.net" sucks. Sorry that we are competitive people who like to challenge ourselves to be better. Apparently, that makes some people mad. Not sure why. And let's be honest, MLG promotes Bungie and increases sales for Bungie. What do these forums do for bungie? Allow angry people to complain about how MLG sucks? It definitely doesn't make them any money, that's for sure.

Let's all stop being haters, shall we?

  • 06.11.2009 11:03 AM PDT

Posted by: Lord 1nfamouss
Wow, i have never seen such hate for something in my life. Someone mentions that he plays MLG and everyone immediately says "MLG sucks" and says that his ideas suck. I don't understand why none of the bungie.net fans want to see the game grow and be more customizable. It's like you guys want it to be as narrow and shallow as possible. The OP said he wants a BALANCED weapon set, he didn't say he wants a BR and nothing else. I for one am not a fan of trying to kill someone with an assault rifle across the map, but hey, thats just me.


While people are being offensive, MLG has always been a fan of LESS customizability and versitility. BR starts, everyone spartan, no motion tracker, and so on. We don't always want less here on bnet, we usually strive for more.

  • 06.11.2009 11:07 AM PDT

Actually Lord Infamouss the Halo franchise made MLG not the other way around so lets be honest here.

Also MLG is a much more watered down version of everything else in Halo.

Oh and Halo 1 didn't have MM as ther wasn't xbox live then.

And you kind of through a monkey wrench in the fact that some of us b.net and mlg members where actually getting along and have intelligent posts for a couple pages there.

  • 06.11.2009 11:17 AM PDT

Posted by: Deidg Nactal
Posted by: Lord 1nfamouss
Wow, i have never seen such hate for something in my life. Someone mentions that he plays MLG and everyone immediately says "MLG sucks" and says that his ideas suck. I don't understand why none of the bungie.net fans want to see the game grow and be more customizable. It's like you guys want it to be as narrow and shallow as possible. The OP said he wants a BALANCED weapon set, he didn't say he wants a BR and nothing else. I for one am not a fan of trying to kill someone with an assault rifle across the map, but hey, thats just me.


While people are being offensive, MLG has always been a fan of LESS customizability and versitility. BR starts, everyone spartan, no motion tracker, and so on. We don't always want less here on bnet, we usually strive for more.
I see what you are saying but not every MLG fan only plays MLG style gameplay the MLG community are huge fans of Halo 3 in general, maybe not every member but there are versatile members.

  • 06.11.2009 11:19 AM PDT

Posted by: ACTI0N TOM
Actually Lord Infamouss the Halo franchise made MLG not the other way around so lets be honest here.

Also MLG is a much more watered down version of everything else in Halo.

Oh and Halo 1 didn't have MM as ther wasn't xbox live then.

And you kind of through a monkey wrench in the fact that some of us b.net and mlg members where actually getting along and have intelligent posts for a couple pages there.


I hate it when people say that Mlg made Halo as popular as it is. Halo was always popular. And if MLG stopped using Halo, the population wouldn't be hurt too bad.

  • 06.11.2009 11:21 AM PDT
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action tom you're correct. Halo 1 did not have match making. It did, however, have multi player. You should try it out sometime, it's got some awesome maps like Hang 'em High, Damnation, Chill Out, and Prisoner. It's the only reason people still play Halo 1. Do you think people would still play it if it didn't have multi player? And by the way, the only reason I knew about Halo 1 was because I found out about MLG. If not for MLG, I would never have played Halo.

  • 06.11.2009 11:24 AM PDT

Challenge me to a Hawaiian Punch chugging contest. I dare you.


Posted by: mubox47
$.50 in store credit.

I like how just because you mentioned MLG people started flaming.

Bungie does make games for the fans, many of which are part of the MLG community.

MLG does not suck just because some kids give it a bad name or you dont like the gametypes.


Back on topic, some ideas are pretty cool.

  • 06.11.2009 11:24 AM PDT

Halo: CE > > Halo 3 > Halo: Reach = Halo 2

Posted by: Deidg Nactal
Posted by: Lord 1nfamouss
Wow, i have never seen such hate for something in my life. Someone mentions that he plays MLG and everyone immediately says "MLG sucks" and says that his ideas suck. I don't understand why none of the bungie.net fans want to see the game grow and be more customizable. It's like you guys want it to be as narrow and shallow as possible. The OP said he wants a BALANCED weapon set, he didn't say he wants a BR and nothing else. I for one am not a fan of trying to kill someone with an assault rifle across the map, but hey, thats just me.


While people are being offensive, MLG has always been a fan of LESS customizability and versitility. BR starts, everyone spartan, no motion tracker, and so on. We don't always want less here on bnet, we usually strive for more.

More what? More useless stuff to get in the way of gameplay? That is what has happened with the series.

  • 06.11.2009 11:24 AM PDT

Posted by: MadroKurgan
Posted by: Deidg Nactal
Posted by: Lord 1nfamouss
Wow, i have never seen such hate for something in my life. Someone mentions that he plays MLG and everyone immediately says "MLG sucks" and says that his ideas suck. I don't understand why none of the bungie.net fans want to see the game grow and be more customizable. It's like you guys want it to be as narrow and shallow as possible. The OP said he wants a BALANCED weapon set, he didn't say he wants a BR and nothing else. I for one am not a fan of trying to kill someone with an assault rifle across the map, but hey, thats just me.


While people are being offensive, MLG has always been a fan of LESS customizability and versitility. BR starts, everyone spartan, no motion tracker, and so on. We don't always want less here on bnet, we usually strive for more.

More what? More useless stuff to get in the way of gameplay? That is what has happened with the series.


How do the additions from Halo 2 to 3 get in the way of gameplay?

  • 06.11.2009 11:28 AM PDT

Halo: CE > > Halo 3 > Halo: Reach = Halo 2

Posted by: FRI R3gret
Posted by: MadroKurgan
Posted by: Deidg Nactal
Posted by: Lord 1nfamouss
Wow, i have never seen such hate for something in my life. Someone mentions that he plays MLG and everyone immediately says "MLG sucks" and says that his ideas suck. I don't understand why none of the bungie.net fans want to see the game grow and be more customizable. It's like you guys want it to be as narrow and shallow as possible. The OP said he wants a BALANCED weapon set, he didn't say he wants a BR and nothing else. I for one am not a fan of trying to kill someone with an assault rifle across the map, but hey, thats just me.


While people are being offensive, MLG has always been a fan of LESS customizability and versitility. BR starts, everyone spartan, no motion tracker, and so on. We don't always want less here on bnet, we usually strive for more.

More what? More useless stuff to get in the way of gameplay? That is what has happened with the series.


How do the additions from Halo 2 to 3 get in the way of gameplay?

- 3 shot burst BR
- Increased bullet magnetism
- Melee lunge
- Deplorable weapons (regen, drain, bubble shields)
- Slower player movement
- Useless weapon clones for the sake of more weapon

All this detracts from the core gameplay of precision aiming and movement. Making it more accessible to the general non gaming public.

[Edited on 06.11.2009 11:35 AM PDT]

  • 06.11.2009 11:33 AM PDT

Posted by: MadroKurgan
Posted by: FRI R3gret
Posted by: MadroKurgan
Posted by: Deidg Nactal
Posted by: Lord 1nfamouss
Wow, i have never seen such hate for something in my life. Someone mentions that he plays MLG and everyone immediately says "MLG sucks" and says that his ideas suck. I don't understand why none of the bungie.net fans want to see the game grow and be more customizable. It's like you guys want it to be as narrow and shallow as possible. The OP said he wants a BALANCED weapon set, he didn't say he wants a BR and nothing else. I for one am not a fan of trying to kill someone with an assault rifle across the map, but hey, thats just me.


While people are being offensive, MLG has always been a fan of LESS customizability and versitility. BR starts, everyone spartan, no motion tracker, and so on. We don't always want less here on bnet, we usually strive for more.

More what? More useless stuff to get in the way of gameplay? That is what has happened with the series.


How do the additions from Halo 2 to 3 get in the way of gameplay?

- 3 shot burst BR
- Increased bullet magnetism
- Melee lunge
- Deplorable weapons (regen, drain, bubble shields)
- Slower player movement
- Useless weapon clones for the sake of more weapon

All this detracts from the core gameplay of precision aiming and movement. Making it more accessible to the general non gaming public.


-I stand by the belief that this makes the BR harder to use. You have to actually try to get all of your bullets to hit. Which makes the weapon harder to use. Which in turn makes the player that can do that, more skillful.
-I don't care
-I'll agree about the lunge
-Equipment adds another element of strategy to the game. "Does my opponent have a drain...? Maybe I shouldn't just run up to his face and shoot..." Or.... "Alright their are two ways fopr the opponent to get into my base. Oh God here they comes. Both ways? I'll gust throw a drain at this entrance and focus on the one other guy."
-Doesn't bother me that much.
-Who cares. Most new weapons are just old weapons with a new look and a few changes. Ecample: Spiker = Brute Plasma rifle. (Sorry. I don't have the symbol for "almost equals")

And how is a more accessible game bad? Don't we want to have more players? I know Bungie definately wants more people to play.

[Edited on 06.11.2009 11:47 AM PDT]

  • 06.11.2009 11:45 AM PDT

While i kind of agree that equipment is not very necessary, who says the game is about precision aiming and movement? The game is about the game, Halo. Halo is whatever you make it, and i feel as though (and apparently bungie as well) that we should not have such limits on gameplay.

  • 06.11.2009 11:58 AM PDT

Posted by: Lord 1nfamouss
action tom you're correct. Halo 1 did not have match making. It did, however, have multi player. You should try it out sometime, it's got some awesome maps like Hang 'em High, Damnation, Chill Out, and Prisoner. It's the only reason people still play Halo 1. Do you think people would still play it if it didn't have multi player? And by the way, the only reason I knew about Halo 1 was because I found out about MLG. If not for MLG, I would never have played Halo.


Well there is one person.
Yes I have played the multiplayer quite extensively in fact. I used to host LAN and system link parties at my house and all we would play is Halo: CE I have played it since it came out and will continue to play it.

I agree that multiplayer is important. Campeign is very important as well so is the story line.

MLG limits all these it is such a limited gameplay. It is just so straight forward with no chance of unpredictability. That is what I don't like about it.

  • 06.11.2009 12:03 PM PDT

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lol, i stopped at "net coding fixes to reduce bullet dropping significantly"

Bungie could careless what MLG wants, because Halo was a game made for everybody not specifically MLG. Im almost positive that Bungie won't complex the game to go with the standards and expectations that you have for your community. And this,

Posted by: HaloHunter117

- The ability to stack power-ups
- adjusting powerup sizes


I know what you're talking about, you want to adjust size for map decoration. But why would they make the game so complex? Why does the size matter? Not everyone is "pro" or trying to be. And to most MLG maps I've played on, they have a thing for the powerups as decoration. And stack?

Bungie sponsor MLG, they care just as much about what they want as they b.net community.

I really should quit B.net forums, you are all so ignorant. "Halo:MLG" really? They are voicing their opinion. They don't "demand" anything from the game, only Microsoft can demand something.

And all of you still have yet to give me a good reason as to why "mlg sux". You say the elitist players, you are just as elitist as them, saying such ignorant and stereotypical things.

Simplifying? Sure, there are fewer weapons and gametypes, but they are much faster paced, which makes up for it. What they did is that they removed most of the "noob" weapons, like the AR or shotgun. I do believe the rockets shouldn't be there and they should add something else like an SMG.

MLG players are fans of Halo just like you are, and their opinions are just as valid as yours.
I also find "BK" to be a pathetic insult, but that is only a part of the MLG community, just like the casual Halo community who tell you that you hack after the game.


From now on, I'll try to only use Flood and some other forum, I guess I'll try the MLG forums.

*goes to mlgpro.com and makes an account*


In reference to my post a little earlier.

THIS is the kind of person that gives MLG a bad name. You respond to people that shouldn't be payed any attention to. If you don't like what people say about MLG, ignore them. Stay on subject and have an intellectual conversation with the people who actually have common sense. You are combatting an extremist... By being an extremist. That doesn't work.

And to be honest I didn't see anything wrong with the post you quoted.

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  • 06.11.2009 12:16 PM PDT
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Posted by: Lord 1nfamouss
And for those of you saying that you're "True Halo Fans", yet say you only care about the campaign and don't care if they make a good multi player system, WOW. MULTI PLAYER IS WHAT MAKES A GAME FUN TO PLAY YEARS AFTER IT CAME OUT. Halo 1, Halo 2, Halo 3. Do you not understand that? I don't know of anyone who wants to play through campaign over and over and over. I will play through campaign once. I'll go through each level and kill the same enemies over and over and be bored of it by the time it's over. Hooray. Thank God Bungie puts so much time in the multi player so the game is interesting for more than a day.

Yeah, it's not like games such as Mass Effect and Fallout 3 aren't enjoyable because they are SP-only? Halo; CE was and is the standard for storytelling in an FPS. But then Bungie had to kill it and go MP-focused. Many fans have been asking for another story-driven romp that is not Halo 3: ODST and Halo: Reach should be the one to deliver because this is the darkest moment of the UNSC. In this game, SP should come before MP.

Also, the one thing I don't like in this list is model searching. What's is wrong with Elites? Wah, you can't get a headshot. It makes the game harder. I personally like playing MP as Elites.

  • 06.11.2009 12:18 PM PDT

Its just my oppinion but I thought thay Halo 2 SP was better than CE.

But I do agree with you on the story telling thing.

  • 06.11.2009 12:22 PM PDT
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You can't kill what's dead.

Stand. Fight. Resist. S2F.

Some good suggestions I see there.

  • 06.11.2009 2:00 PM PDT

Adjust your strategy to the game, not the game to your strategy.

While I agree with some of these suggestions, most of them are very unnecessary. Customization is good, but too much customization is superfluous and confusing. Who needs 100 options for controller sensitivity?

  • 06.11.2009 2:03 PM PDT