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Before you rish ahead and call me an MLG Fanboy and the like. I am somewhat disapointed with the apparent removal of the BR, I enjoy using them and I know many others do for different reasons. The auto-mag may be a replacement, but very few of us actually know how good it is. I've only seen it's uses for finishing headshots, not actually taking down an enemy. It could be fairly weak for all we know.

Yes, I am aware I'm going to have to change my tactics in ODST. Not that much point complaining.

  • 06.09.2009 3:34 PM PDT

I CHANGED MY MIND DAMMIT

Posted by: FireStar_T19
Posted by: AridWings
wtf? why wouldn't they have it? the ODST needs a good and accurate medium range weapon because he isn't a walking tank like chief.

The SMG , has a scope .
The pistol is Like a H:CE pistol. (best weapon ever!!!)

putting a scope on ans smg doesn't make it accurate. unless bungie just decided to turn it into a full auto br.

  • 06.09.2009 3:34 PM PDT

We dont need a br anymore. The pistol took its place. Plus its more fun to use the different weapons in halo besides the br. The br just seems so boring now, im glad it got taken out. We'll finally see some people use different weapons like the carbine, assault rifle, and spiker, which all seem more fun to use than the br. Id also trade that br in for that scoped smg anyday.

We just dont need the br anymore, theres a ton of other weapons we can use in halo besides it.

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  • 06.09.2009 3:35 PM PDT

Gigitty Gigitty Goo!

Posted by: Delta Guardian
Calm down seriously its just a weapon the Automag is better anyways.

Seriously, calm down, dont get upset set because a weapon in a VIDEO GAME wont apear in ODST.

  • 06.09.2009 3:35 PM PDT
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Bungie makes a game with 20+ weapons and only one is actually used.
Removing a weapon so that the players would use the others too is not a best decision but i don't even know the actually "why" Bungie removed BR, remember that.

Can you agree that BR is over used and too optimal weapon? Do you see much variety in Halo 3? Outside AR which is starting weapon and BR which is "best" weapon that is. Me, i don't see much variety. I try to use pistol and plasma rifles a lot for example but the way the game is desinged, one who uses others than BR doesn't have much chance.

Oops forgot the quote... damnit

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  • 06.09.2009 3:35 PM PDT

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i can 3 shot with it but i want more of a chalenge such as a pistol and its still in multiplayer i want to stress that IT IS STILL IN MULTIPLAYER so stop whining

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Posted by: AridWings
Posted by: FireStar_T19
Posted by: AridWings
wtf? why wouldn't they have it? the ODST needs a good and accurate medium range weapon because he isn't a walking tank like chief.

The SMG , has a scope .
The pistol is Like a H:CE pistol. (best weapon ever!!!)

putting a scope on ans smg doesn't make it accurate. unless bungie just decided to turn it into a full auto br.


Even so , the pistol in this would kick a BR's ass , but I guess it depends whos holding the weapons.

  • 06.09.2009 3:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: L0ne Darky
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Removing BR forces people to adapt more and use other weapons too


How is that a good thing??

Players should be able to use any feasible situation apropriate weapon that exists in the halo universe. On the ground in the fight for New Mombassa there were Battle Rifles, meaning, in Halo 3;ODST when you're actually in the battle for new mombassa, there should be Battle Rifles.

players should be able to chose to use a BR if they damn well please, in whatever situation,

what you're suggesting is that the BR should stay out to "TEACH" players. teach them to use other weapons?? if they want to learn you should preach to them to stay in school. if anything playing multiplayer vs. other people will teach them about situation apropriate weaponry. if not, repeated death and reverting to previous check points will teach them. IMO the players you're thinking of aren't retards. they can learn from themselves, and they're more than smart enough to chose weapons for themselves, and to figure out for themselves what weapons work best for different situations.


As in a player will learn that dual wielding smg's will beat the -blam!- out of a player using a BR when they're in close range, but the opposite vs. long range.
They will learn that bum rushing a scorpion tank with a magnum will most likely get you killed

multplayer will eventually have players learn that a player using an AR over a distance of 100 yards, will get his -blam!- kicked by a player using a BR.

with all due respect towards bungie, their job isn't to teach gamers.


He didn't say one damn thing about teaching anybody anything YOU did. And also the BR is a little more nooby than the AR because you use the BR like a sniper rifle from the edge of the map. You don't even need a scope on sandtrap to 4 shot someone all the way at the end of the map hell i've done it. And i'm sure the people crying about the BR have too.

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  • 06.09.2009 3:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: Assault
you don't even need a scope on sandtrap to 4 shot someone all the way at the end of the map.
Impossible. In Halo 2, possible, in Halo 3, impossible. Thank Bungie they did change the BR that much at least.

  • 06.09.2009 3:38 PM PDT

I CHANGED MY MIND DAMMIT

Posted by: FireStar_T19
Posted by: AridWings
Posted by: FireStar_T19
Posted by: AridWings
wtf? why wouldn't they have it? the ODST needs a good and accurate medium range weapon because he isn't a walking tank like chief.

The SMG , has a scope .
The pistol is Like a H:CE pistol. (best weapon ever!!!)

putting a scope on ans smg doesn't make it accurate. unless bungie just decided to turn it into a full auto br.


Even so , the pistol in this would kick a BR's ass , but I guess it depends whos holding the weapons.
so what is the point of removing the br then? If the pistol has a scope and is ridiculously overpowered thn no one will have to change their tactics at all.

  • 06.09.2009 3:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: L0ne Darky
Posted by: Defiant Assasin
i can 3 shot with it but i want more of a chalenge such as a pistol and its still in multiplayer i want to stress that IT IS STILL IN MULTIPLAYER so stop whining


And I want to stress; LEARN TO READ, WE ALL KNOW THAT IT'S STILL IN THE MULTIPLAYER!!

please and thanks
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i know you know but people are complaining over nothing when 90% of the time they will be playing multiplayer

  • 06.09.2009 3:41 PM PDT
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Posted by: Trap51b
[/quote]Impossible. In Halo 3, possible, in Halo 2, impossible. Thank Bungie they did change the BR that much at least.


fixed

I've done it and plenty of ohter people i've played with have done it to lots of times

  • 06.09.2009 3:42 PM PDT
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Yeah put it in the campaign but leave it out of any online features

  • 06.09.2009 3:43 PM PDT
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The fact there is no BR must be simply based on gameplay decisions. Why? Because it makes no sense storywise why it isn't in the game. So it must be gameplay reasons. Same thing with the Elites really.



I can't belive Regret simply picked up the Elites and left with them and after 6 hours, actually, after 2 hours, there ain't a single Elite on Earth but its filled with Brutes. Not even Covies can transport a large army of Brutes to Earth in less than two hours. Story is explained, but much ain't logical. Gameplay is naturally the explanation, Elites were "underdeveloped" for Halo 3, and there wasn't enough time to make Elites a diverse enemy with really working AI etc. At least i think so.

Maybe not best explanation however... sorry about that.

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Posted by: L0ne Darky
Posted by: napleonBlwnaprt
silenced, single shot, zooming SMG. just like a br, one hit kills on grunts. and the BR is still in MM. calm down.


L2R

learn to read please.
I'm well aware that the BR is still in multiplayer, this thread is all about how limiting choice isn't cool, gamers don't need to be taught what weapons work best in certain situations, and how it makes no sense that the BR is not in Halo 3; ODST, which takes place in New Mombassa, when the ODST used them in Halo 2, in new Mombassa.


You basically reversed that back at your self , so many in this forum are talking about how it is used too much , honestly , we are limited to only using it , because if we don't use it then the other players will kill us before we get to them , I will from the day forward never use the BR until ODST is released , and you not really being limited , you still , have a massive amount of guns , so why are you complaining?

  • 06.09.2009 3:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: DTA MoonDawg
Well... maybe the UNSC confiscated all of the Halo 2 Battle Rifles, so they could manufacture the new ones that are featured in Halo 3!

Oh, sorry. I think I just threw in some logic. :(

No the covenant stole them all [like they did with the Halo pistol], because it was too good.

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I'm glad they took it out. Bungie took it out to probably get the MLG -blam!-s out of our game (They make fun of MLG players all the time). I personally will love re-living the good ol' Halo: CE days. MLG wanna-bes can go -blam!- themselves. All I need is the SMG and pistol, best weapons ever made.

  • 06.09.2009 3:48 PM PDT

Posted by: L0ne Darky
Players should be able to use any feasible situation apropriate weapon that exists in the halo universe.


Then I should also get to use a Wolverine to take out any Phantom that shows up in the game and have a Cobra on standby from the very first vehicle encounter.

Part of good game design is limiting the players tactical potential so they have to work for the objectives you set for them and actually engage themselves with the experience. Otherwise, you are just creating an interactive movie with little to overcome and nothing to take any satisfaction from.

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Posted by: AridWings
Posted by: FireStar_T19
Posted by: AridWings
Posted by: FireStar_T19
Posted by: AridWings
wtf? why wouldn't they have it? the ODST needs a good and accurate medium range weapon because he isn't a walking tank like chief.

The SMG , has a scope .
The pistol is Like a H:CE pistol. (best weapon ever!!!)

putting a scope on ans smg doesn't make it accurate. unless bungie just decided to turn it into a full auto br.


Even so , the pistol in this would kick a BR's ass , but I guess it depends whos holding the weapons.
so what is the point of removing the br then? If the pistol has a scope and is ridiculously overpowered thn no one will have to change their tactics at all.


Thanks for admitting the BR is overpowered that made me feel warm and fuzzy inside! The reason being they will change tactics is because there is hardly any ammo for it so it will be used wisely.

  • 06.09.2009 3:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: DTF XWing
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No the covenant stole them all [like they did with the Halo pistol], because it was too good.


Or to make something better and take more skill and it's called the Carbine. Now when you get Carbined when using a BR they can laugh at you and say they suck because they got 8 shotted when you could have 4 shotted him

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