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Subject: Poll Question is; Do you want the battle rifle to return?
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Posted by: sxman
IS everyone on this forum a stupid noob seriusly the BR is One of the most useful weapons in halo2 and 3.How could you prefer AR with pistol over it.Now i know why the halo community has no skill.God you people a helpless.

Yeah, the problem is that it's too useful. A weapon should fill only a small slot. A player should be equipped to fight in all situations allways. If there needs to be a weapon that works every where, it should be the starting weapon but overall very weak. AR is only close range weapon but strong there. BR is all arounder but strong everywhere. Balance is non-existant in Halo 3 really. IMO.

  • 06.09.2009 4:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: L0ne Darky
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Bungie DID do a good job of not including the Battle Rifle in Halo 3:ODST.

If you think about it, there would be no quick thinking on your feet if all you did was wander around New Mombasa, shooting a Brute in the head three- four times.


Did you watch the trailer? you'd be doing almost the exact same thing in Halo 3; ODST, except this time around, you'd be doing it with a pistol, whilst zoomed in, and with increased caliber to boot.


This would seem to be the case, but I noticed that Staten would lower the brute's shields with the SMG or a grenade before pulling the pistol, so it seems like it may be less effective on their shielding, kind of like how a plasma pistol is useless against an unshielded enemy.

  • 06.09.2009 4:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: MCPOchin
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Posted by: sxman
IS everyone on this forum a stupid noob seriusly the BR is One of the most useful weapons in halo2 and 3.How could you prefer AR with pistol over it.Now i know why the halo community has no skill.God you people a helpless.


And you are better than everyone else in the bungie.net site??? doubt it. So if I took out the BR in a 1on1 match I would win because you didn't even know how to fire the other weapons without having a heartattack of knowing there was no BR? Well....



Yes Battle Rifles are great for multiplayer and getting faster kills, but just scroll abit up and look at my previous post.

Battle rifle or no battle rifle, it's all in strategy and not guns blazing.


There you go they wanted to make you think straigicaly when playing. You be very far away and kill the enemy without even firing a bullet at you because you far away from them. thats not straigcal thats a beating the game in 1 to 3 hours to me.


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  • 06.09.2009 4:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: dogmachines
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Posted by: MCPOchin
Bungie DID do a good job of not including the Battle Rifle in Halo 3:ODST.

If you think about it, there would be no quick thinking on your feet if all you did was wander around New Mombasa, shooting a Brute in the head three- four times.


Did you watch the trailer? you'd be doing almost the exact same thing in Halo 3; ODST, except this time around, you'd be doing it with a pistol, whilst zoomed in, and with increased caliber to boot.


This would seem to be the case, but I noticed that Staten would lower the brute's shields with the SMG or a grenade before pulling the pistol, so it seems like it may be less effective on their shielding, kind of like how a plasma pistol is useless against an unshielded enemy.


Or hes trying to hide how powerful it is...

Edit- Lol it's so hard trying to refraise it.
Edit2- Most have spelled refraise wrong...

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  • 06.09.2009 4:08 PM PDT
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As much as I like the BR, I believe that the BR needs a well-deserved vacation.

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  • 06.09.2009 4:08 PM PDT

Posted by: Yes it Was

u have no life no money no girlfriend no land and no soul. u ra worthless ingornt mornic litle man. u are a detrimint to human sociaty and you ran emberesment to human kind. ur parents didn't love you and you where given up for adoption at birth, your adopted parens never told you because they feal srry for you. U are the lowest kind of human scum and you desirve to be shot.

go kill yourself and do the world a faver

I'm not going to argue over another weapon being put into the game. I'd like the BR to be back just for some variety along with the SMG I think the two would work very well together.

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I myself am upset by this, but I tend to look at it as more of a challenge. Yes, I find it strange that the Carbine is in, but the BR is not, but thats just to give the Covenant troops something to get us long range.

  • 06.09.2009 4:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: x Foman123 x
Actually, I find that I'm more invincible without pants, which is why I am not wearing any at the moment.

Battle rifles not that great, give me a scoped pistol any day....

  • 06.09.2009 4:10 PM PDT

Posted by: dogmachines
Is there any way to silence a grenade.


If a grenade goes off in New Mombossa and there's no one left alive from the blast, does it make a sound?

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Posted by: dogmachines
Is there any way to silence a grenade.


If a grenade goes off in New Mombossa and there's no one left alive from the blast, does it make a sound?


Yes it would it's just that no one would hear it

  • 06.09.2009 4:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: dogmachines
Is there any way to silence a grenade.


If a grenade goes off in New Mombossa and there's no one left alive from the blast, does it make a sound?


Yes it would it's just that no one would hear it


Unless an on-by Covenant Patrol happens to be close enough to hear the blast.

  • 06.09.2009 4:12 PM PDT

Posted by: Yes it Was

u have no life no money no girlfriend no land and no soul. u ra worthless ingornt mornic litle man. u are a detrimint to human sociaty and you ran emberesment to human kind. ur parents didn't love you and you where given up for adoption at birth, your adopted parens never told you because they feal srry for you. U are the lowest kind of human scum and you desirve to be shot.

go kill yourself and do the world a faver

Also, I thought that ODST was in the time of Halo 2, a heavily BR used era in Halo. Now, none? Not even 1?

The BR should be in. If you don't like the gun, DON'T PICK IT UP.

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Its not that there are none, its just that the ODSTs wont carry any into a stealth situation because the muzzle flash and loud sound of a BR firing would kind of give them away.

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Posted by: dogmachines
Its not that there are none, its just that the ODSTs wont carry any into a stealth situation because the muzzle flash and loud sound of a BR firing would kind of give them away.


And eliminate the patrol very quick. Thus ending the fun in less than five seconds. Or the exact opposite.

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Posted by: xstk182x
no one has played halo ce?

I have,
Halo:CE didnt have a BR.
Im glad its out, i mean, im a S.W.A.T player, but, theres way to much arguement around it.

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Posted by: darkops0
Posted by: dogmachines
Its not that there are none, its just that the ODSTs wont carry any into a stealth situation because the muzzle flash and loud sound of a BR firing would kind of give them away.


And eliminate the patrol very quick. Thus ending the fun in less than five seconds. Or the exact opposite.


Exactly. For plot and gameplay reasons.

  • 06.09.2009 4:17 PM PDT

Posted by: dogmachines
Its not that there are none, its just that the ODSTs wont carry any into a stealth situation because the muzzle flash and loud sound of a BR firing would kind of give them away.


That and if you saw the E3 Coverage of the opening scene, the ODST teams thought they were going to drop on top of the Covenant Cruiser and so they packed with them Close Quarters guns. Thats why the majority of the team carries a Submachine gun and Buck carries an Assault Rifle.

But Battle Rifle fans should be happy since their new substitute is the silenced Halo Magnum :)

  • 06.09.2009 4:18 PM PDT
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Posted by: dogmachines
Its not that there are none, its just that the ODSTs wont carry any into a stealth situation because the muzzle flash and loud sound of a BR firing would kind of give them away.


yea...but think about how fast they would down enemies, before an alert is even sent otu!!
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Ok, it's all about being situation apropriate right? if a player wants to use it, bungie shouldn't force said player to role play.
I.E in Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell, i would sometimes go in guns blazing w/ my SMG Pistol combo to get things done quicker, where being detected didn't jepordize the mission.

Lets say we have an ODST who's smart enough to bring a BR along with some silenced weapon. WHAT IF....by chance said ODST and his squad were actually detected by the covies..???

Wouldn't you like to have a BR by your side, that extra bit of Fire power you need, to slay the onslaught of covenant advancing on your position??

Think about it....even with you TRYING to be all stealthy.....like in splinter cell ....there's always a possibility that you'll be detected, and you may have to say; "screw stealth" and -blam!- blow some dudes head off with a grenade launcher or somethin.


Like in past halo games, i would assassinate sleeping grunts w/ a swift blow to their heads, but when a patrolling brute or elite detected me, stealth was abandoned, and i'd blow them all to hell.

therefore BR should be in Halo 3; ODST to be used at the users discretion, in situation appropriate times.

(though i would still prolly stick to the AR and pistol combo, or Carbine if there's one available)


Lol I remember those times... "We been compromised GO CRAZY! AND LEAVE NO SURVIVORS!" Lol

  • 06.09.2009 4:27 PM PDT

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Fact is, if you don't have it you don't have it. And as an above post pointed out, they thought they were going to drop into Regret's ship, which would have been a close quarters fight where a BR would have no place.

Like I said, it all comes down to its not in the game. Get used to it and stop whining. I like the BR just as much as you do, but we get the Halo CE pistol back and a silenced SMG with improved accuracy.

  • 06.09.2009 4:32 PM PDT

I'm happy the BR's not in it, the Covenant Carbine needs some attention other than me when I'm winning a game by 10 and I want to fool around.

  • 06.09.2009 4:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: dogmachines
Fact is, if you don't have it you don't have it. And as an above post pointed out, they thought they were going to drop into Regret's ship, which would have been a close quarters fight where a BR would have no place.

Like I said, it all comes down to its not in the game. Get used to it and stop whining. I like the BR just as much as you do, but we get the Halo CE pistol back and a silenced SMG with improved accuracy.

You deserve an award for this post, or, at least the conflict of this thread should be ended.

  • 06.09.2009 4:35 PM PDT

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Where is the I don't give a -blam!- option?

  • 06.09.2009 4:35 PM PDT