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Subject: Please... fix vehicles in this game...

Assuming this game has the same vehicles as Halo 3, please bungie, fix them. They are incredibly in balanced and its almost pointless to go in them.

I play Big team and lone wolves, thats pretty much it. I use vehicles every game, and this is what I have noticed.

How ground troops dominate vehicles:

All vehicles die in 1 shot of a laser (tanks?), giving the guy with the laser 5 easy kills and the other team 5 respawning vehicles and players. On valhalla the lazer can see the whole map, get on his screen and your pretty much done. Don't forget the missle pod, banshees rejoice, you have 8 homing missiles coming your way.

Then there are power drains, power drains take out ur vehicle for a few seconds and also drain your health, giving the other team a free kill or jack. Power drains come out of anywhere and there are MANY on each map making them an easy way to rack up kills.

Oh and on the subject of jacking, why is it so easy? When I am in a banshee, I can be 20 feet above ground, then boost away 50 feet higher, suddenly with a spartan pulling me out by teleporting. Or when I try to splatter somebody, somehow they can jump over, turn, and jack. Its just way to easy.

Tanks also need a boost. "Tank beats hunter!...Tank beats EVERYTHING!" , remember that quote? Well in multiplayer it doesn't. I was in a tank shooting at a spartan for about 10 seconds. All he had to do was jump, and my explosion by his feet would do about 1/10th damage. Did tanks really get worse in the future? No... they can 1 shot hunters, but not spartans?

Finally, flipping. Your telling me that a 3,000 lb warthog can flip after barely hitting the side of a wall? Or a mongoose is some how heavier on the right side so when going off a ramp, you flip? Flipping really needs to be harder to do.


The only overpowered vehicle in my opinion is the warthog. The gunner is much to powerful. When welly manned, the warthog is unstoppable. It speeds by grenades and rockets, splatters with ease, and the turret mows down a spartan in under 1 second.

So please bungie, make vehicles worth something. Give the tanks a damage boost, weaken the spartan laser or make it have 3 shots or something, and keep those mongooses firmer locked to the ground. Its just bs...

  • 06.09.2009 4:21 PM PDT

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The lazer destroys all but tanks and wraiths in one hit.

Range is a factor on lazer vs tanks.

  • 06.09.2009 4:23 PM PDT

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  • 06.09.2009 4:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: bootyslayer4
Assuming this game has the same vehicles as Halo 3, please bungie, fix them. They are incredibly in balanced and its almost pointless to go in them.

I play Big team and lone wolves, thats pretty much it. I use vehicles every game, and this is what I have noticed.

How ground troops dominate vehicles:

All vehicles die in 1 shot of a laser (tanks?), giving the guy with the laser 5 easy kills and the other team 5 respawning vehicles and players. On valhalla the lazer can see the whole map, get on his screen and your pretty much done. Don't forget the missle pod, banshees rejoice, you have 8 homing missiles coming your way.

Then there are power drains, power drains take out ur vehicle for a few seconds and also drain your health, giving the other team a free kill or jack. Power drains come out of anywhere and there are MANY on each map making them an easy way to rack up kills.
I agree with you on these points. Though some of these threats can be reduced by practice. Loath as I am to bring this up... But remember the days that the only sure way to kill a vehicle was to shoot two unguided rockets into in (Halo: CE) or be very skilled with the Sniper Rifle / Magnum.

Oh and on the subject of jacking, why is it so easy? When I am in a banshee, I can be 20 feet above ground, then boost away 50 feet higher, suddenly with a spartan pulling me out by teleporting. Or when I try to splatter somebody, somehow they can jump over, turn, and jack. Its just way to easy. I'm 50/50 on this, having the ability to Jack vehicles prevents people from just going out to destroy them, which would result in them being unavailible for a while whilst they respawn

Tanks also need a boost. "Tank beats hunter!...Tank beats EVERYTHING!" , remember that quote? Well in multiplayer it doesn't. I was in a tank shooting at a spartan for about 10 seconds. All he had to do was jump, and my explosion by his feet would do about 1/10th damage. Did tanks really get worse in the future? No... they can 1 shot hunters, but not spartans?

Finally, flipping. Your telling me that a 3,000 lb warthog can flip after barely hitting the side of a wall? Or a mongoose is some how heavier on the right side so when going off a ramp, you flip? Flipping really needs to be harder to do.


The only overpowered vehicle in my opinion is the warthog. The gunner is much to powerful. When welly manned, the warthog is unstoppable. It speeds by grenades and rockets, splatters with ease, and the turret mows down a spartan in under 1 second.

So please bungie, make vehicles worth something. Give the tanks a damage boost, weaken the spartan laser or make it have 3 shots or something, and keep those mongooses firmer locked to the ground. Its just bs...


I disagree with that, the vehicles are the way they are and its on the driver to make sure that they don't flip. The warthog is stoppable, and easy enough to take down.

  • 06.09.2009 4:29 PM PDT

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I find that in the right hands a warthog or banshee can be extremely devastating. In fact without a Spartan lazer or missile pod its very hard to kill them.

Trip mines are meh and 90% of them aren't even used on vehicles.
Rockets don't lock on, so forget hitting a banshee or even hog(unless its going right for you)

Missile Pod is the only readily available vehicle destroyer and you can outrun those missiles with every vehicle in Halo 3.

Also I've seen wraiths and scorpions take 2 lasers, it happens all the time. But I can agree that tanks should take more damage or dish out more damage, its one or the other. I hate it when someone takes 2 tank shots to kill.

Hogs are devastating, Mongoose are friggin amazing at CTF and just rapid transporting/extracting, Banshees are amazing, and the hornets on avalanche are great for transporting. The only vehicle that I think needs to be worked on is the prowler, its hard to drive and its plasma moves to slow.

EDIT: Lets not forget the ghosts(and Choppers) powerful twin plasma guns and ramming capabilities

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  • 06.09.2009 4:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: bootyslayer4
Tanks also need a boost. "Tank beats hunter!...Tank beats EVERYTHING!" , remember that quote? Well in multiplayer it doesn't. I was in a tank shooting at a spartan for about 10 seconds. All he had to do was jump, and my explosion by his feet would do about 1/10th damage. Did tanks really get worse in the future? No... they can 1 shot hunters, but not spartans?

You kill a spartan with one hit in a tank, your aim is the problem.

  • 06.09.2009 4:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
It isn't our shiznit anymore.

You expect vehicles to equal infantry? I don't know what your problem is with the tank (skills?) but I can kill a spartan in one hit with a tank (just shoot beside them, tnaks do area damage). Warthogs are anti infantry and light anti air. There supposed to be strong. Thats why when you kill a warthog you get a double or even a triple kill. Banshees can dodge missiles, its very easy to do. Seeing the whole valhalla map with a laser is not always a good thing. That means your enemy can see you too, and considering theres a sniper in your enemy base... I wouldn't poke my head out. And warthogs flip for a reason. The car you drive is around 2-3000 lbs. What the warthog basically is is a SUV, which flips very easily. You think you can outrun a missile pod? Lol. Try flying or even driving away from a missile pod, see what happens. Not even a banshee or a warthog can outrun it. And btw, when you see a banshee, shoot your BR at it, it does more damage then you think.

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  • 06.09.2009 4:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: bootyslayer4
How ground troops dominate vehicles:

All vehicles die in 1 shot of a laser (tanks?), giving the guy with the laser 5 easy kills and the other team 5 respawning vehicles and players. On valhalla the lazer can see the whole map, get on his screen and your pretty much done. Don't forget the missle pod, banshees rejoice, you have 8 homing missiles coming your way.

The only overpowered vehicle in my opinion is the warthog. The gunner is much to powerful. When welly manned, the warthog is unstoppable. It speeds by grenades and rockets, splatters with ease, and the turret mows down a spartan in under 1 second.

First you say vehicles are to weak, and then you say they're overpowered?

If you don't like the vehicles, then don't use them.

  • 06.09.2009 4:40 PM PDT

My only probelm is the splatter system, I run you over full speed direct hit with a ghost, and all it does it push you along for 20 feet before you hijack me. Then you clip me with the wing and I die

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Posted by: SHADOWEDBONES
Posted by: bootyslayer4
How ground troops dominate vehicles:

All vehicles die in 1 shot of a laser (tanks?), giving the guy with the laser 5 easy kills and the other team 5 respawning vehicles and players. On valhalla the lazer can see the whole map, get on his screen and your pretty much done. Don't forget the missle pod, banshees rejoice, you have 8 homing missiles coming your way.

The only overpowered vehicle in my opinion is the warthog. The gunner is much to powerful. When welly manned, the warthog is unstoppable. It speeds by grenades and rockets, splatters with ease, and the turret mows down a spartan in under 1 second.

First you say vehicles are to weak, and then you say they're overpowered?

If you don't like the vehicles, then don't use them.

Are you retarded? How can him not using vehicles make it any more balanced? Other people will still use it. Pretending a problem doesn't exist doesn't fix it.

  • 06.09.2009 5:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: blingchu
My only probelm is the splatter system, I run you over full speed direct hit with a ghost, and all it does it push you along for 20 feet before you hijack me. Then you clip me with the wing and I die
I agree, I have one too many times found myself getting jacked due to the person i should of had splattered, what i also don't get is how i am able to betray teammates while driving a tank in reverse, its the splatter that kills them....

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So what you are basically saying is make the vehicles more realistic and suck the fun out of the game? Yeah, some funny and messed up shizz happens sometimes, but thats not because of the vehicles, it's because of lag .etc amongst other proplems. You seem to hold the ideology that vehicles should be power houses of destruction but that simply shouldn't be the case. Splazers, Power Drainers and Missle Pods were put into Halo 3 to balence the unfairness of vehicles from Halo 2. Anyone remember that small circular map in Halo 2 that had the dial which turned in the middle? Remember when the opposite team got the Banshee? You got dominated by a noob. I rest my case. We need to remeber that Halo is an FPS, not a racing game. The fact that the design of Halo 3 is steering you away from using a vehicle is a good thing. Bungie wouldn't be doing their job if everyone preferred being in a vehicle rather than on foot in Halo 3!!!

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  • 06.09.2009 5:28 PM PDT
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Honestly i think that the vehicles have finally found a balance in H3...

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Posted by: K Funk
Honestly i think that the vehicles have finally found a balance in H3...


Agreed!

  • 06.09.2009 5:29 PM PDT