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Subject: What Flood are made out of.
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I always wondered why the flood never used Hunters. Is it because their armor is unsuitable for flood-style combat? Or did they become Carrier forms? (that seems unlikely, as only the lesser of sentient beings [Jackals/Grunts] are confirmed to be used for that purpose, and Hunters are "briliant tacticians".) Maybe this "Brain Form" that consumed the Captain was an infected Hunter, with it's armor shed. After all, it is the only being on the original Halo with sufficient biomass to be transformed into such a large form.

Just a theory.

[Edited on 7/17/2004 10:24:33 PM]

  • 07.17.2004 10:22 PM PDT
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The Flood are made of the following:

Rotting flesh
Sacks of pus
Infectious parasites
and of course:
MARSHMALLOWS!!!

  • 07.17.2004 10:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: byrum
I always wondered why the flood never used Hunters. Is it because their armor is unsuitable for flood-style combat? Or did they become Carrier forms? (that seems unlikely, as only the lesser of sentient beings [Jackals/Grunts] are confirmed to be used for that purpose, and Hunters are "briliant tacticians".) Maybe this "Brain Form" that consumed the Captain was an infected Hunter, with it's armor shed. After all, it is the only being on the original Halo with sufficient biomass to be transformed into such a large form.

Just a theory.

good theroy man

  • 07.17.2004 10:59 PM PDT
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actually if the flood warped the land for their own cause it would in reality make them even more parasitic, they feed off the land AND the living....

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Good question. I'm not sure about the Hunters. Presumably though, if Hunters are vulnerable to infection from the Flood, it stands to reason that there should be more than one around. Hunters may not be that common, but I don't think the Elites outnumber them several hundred to one.
My hypothesis is more along the lines that the Hunters are safe from the actual infection; as in that due to the Hunters' size and armour plating, the comparatively small infection forms can't penetrate deep enough to take control of them, similar to how a mosquito can't suck blood from an elephant.

  • 07.17.2004 11:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: DeathscytheV2
actually if the flood warped the land for their own cause it would in reality make them even more parasitic, they feed off the land AND the living....


Well, it depends on how you look at it. If the Flood could "live off the land", they would become less dependant on hosts. Humans alter the land to suit their purposes too, but they aren't classified as a parasitic organism.

  • 07.17.2004 11:36 PM PDT
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the only reasons we dont classify ourselves as parasitic is because it will make us look really bad, can you really say we are living a symbiotic relationship with this world? and if the flood warped the land for their use I highly doubt they would care about making sure the land keeps on ticking the way it did, they only want resources and they want them now...

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Such behavior would ensure that the flood would die out almost immediatley if they were in any significant numbers. I think that the flood use what their hosts had with them at the time that they were infected. How could the flood infect land? Do they set down roots and hope they are watered periodically? Or perhaps the flood exploit natural resources in the same way humans do. Flood lumberjacks? That's a thought.

  • 07.17.2004 11:48 PM PDT
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if they could infect sentient life what makes you think they couldent infect non-sentient lesser beings? or plant life for that matter.,,

  • 07.18.2004 12:03 AM PDT
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Posted by: DeathscytheV2
the only reasons we dont classify ourselves as parasitic is because it will make us look really bad, can you really say we are living a symbiotic relationship with this world? and if the flood warped the land for their use I highly doubt they would care about making sure the land keeps on ticking the way it did, they only want resources and they want them now...


I suppose it comes down to definition. The way I see it a parasite is only a parasite as long as it lives out its life fed and sheltered in or on various host organisms. Having the ability to drain resources and turn them into something else is not necessarily the same as being a parasite. In one sense all living things can be seen as parasites on a world, as the world nurtures and shelters them, but certainly doesn't need them. Again though, that doesn't really make them parasites.
This is all moot until it becomes known what sort of capabilites the Flood have, of course - but I would say that through evolving, an organism acquires a potential to be less parasitic and increasingly able to take care of itself without a host.

  • 07.18.2004 12:19 AM PDT
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Their made out of magic and candy... and highly adhesive plastic

  • 07.18.2004 12:22 AM PDT
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Unlike humans(in which case the more we evolve the more we take from our planet. a good parasite ensures its host lives even while it takes from it, humans arent even doing that much. we are quite the bad parasite.

  • 07.18.2004 12:24 AM PDT
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Is there some greater being complaining about us pergins earth of its resources... BLAME FORD.. plus we'll be on another plannet before anything "Dies"

  • 07.18.2004 12:26 AM PDT
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This is all very interesting and I would like to say thank you on behalf of all the people that actually tried to write something knowledgable and interesting. But if you have more to write, be my guest.

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  • 07.18.2004 12:44 PM PDT
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I think I recall reading that flood are silicon based, and they use their 'cells' to mutate the host, making a new form out of their body. I think the flood use a kind of hive mind.
By the way:

Found on: HBO Flood anatomy
The Carrier form come in two flavors - they're either Flood-infected Grunts (the Flood don't consider Grunts an effective combat form), or they're Warrior forms (either human or Covenant) so badly damaged they're no longer fit for battle.


http://halo.bungie.org/flood/

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  • 07.18.2004 1:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: Pixies
Good question. I'm not sure about the Hunters. Presumably though, if Hunters are vulnerable to infection from the Flood, it stands to reason that there should be more than one around. Hunters may not be that common, but I don't think the Elites outnumber them several hundred to one.
My hypothesis is more along the lines that the Hunters are safe from the actual infection; as in that due to the Hunters' size and armour plating, the comparatively small infection forms can't penetrate deep enough to take control of them, similar to how a mosquito can't suck blood from an elephant.


In the level "Keyes", I've seen Flood Infection Forms toast a Hunter pair.

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  • 07.18.2004 11:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: byrum

In the level "Keyes", I've seen Flood Infection Forms toast a Hunter pair.


she never said that they couldnt be killed, just that they couldnt be taken over, much like that fact that in the book "the flood" the infection form that went to take over 117 had to do it through his neck, because the armour plating on his chest was to strong, or think for it to get through, the same thing applies to the hunters

another theory is that because they are in such close proximity to the fuel rod guns all the time while firing them that they have the same symptoms that johnson has and because of this they are impervious to the flood infection forms attempt to re-write their mind and take over their bodies

  • 07.18.2004 11:36 PM PDT
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This is the real truth (The truth that Bungie says, so its the truth.) : So far, Flood can only infect and control HUMANS AND ELITES. Hunters are big enough to be a host, but are too dumb to be controlled. Or, they have a little known Brain disorder that I sent the full version of to Bungie.org.... I sent the theory, not the disorder :)

Grunts and Jackals are too small and maybe too dumb to be host's for Flood, and of the other races we know: Prophets would be too weak to be used, Engineers are pretty smart, but have really weak bodies, and Brutes would be perfect to infect, but the FLOOD WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME KILLING ONE.... Oops Caps Lock on...

anyway, Humans are barely strong enough to be infected, notced how the Human Flood are sort of drooping or leaning? The bodies are only just strong enough.

Thats the fact, the Bungie Bible Fact, The Fact Indeed.

[Edited on 7/18/2004 11:40:08 PM]

  • 07.18.2004 11:37 PM PDT

goo and dead ppl.

  • 07.18.2004 11:38 PM PDT
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Posted by: Magji
Posted by: byrum

In the level "Keyes", I've seen Flood Infection Forms toast a Hunter pair.


she never said that they couldnt be killed, just that they couldnt be taken over, much like that fact that in the book "the flood" the infection form that went to take over 117 had to do it through his neck, because the armour plating on his chest was to strong, or think for it to get through, the same thing applies to the hunters

another theory is that because they are in such close proximity to the fuel rod guns all the time while firing them that they have the same symptoms that johnson has and because of this they are impervious to the flood infection forms attempt to re-write their mind and take over their bodies


Yes, but then I continued watching. The Infection forms sat on the Hunters, feasted, and atempted to posess- they do the same things to Grunts/Jackals/Elites.

  • 07.18.2004 11:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: Magji
Posted by: byrum

In the level "Keyes", I've seen Flood Infection Forms toast a Hunter pair.

another theory is that because they are in such close proximity to the fuel rod guns all the time while firing them that they have the same symptoms that johnson has and because of this they are impervious to the flood infection forms attempt to re-write their mind and take over their bodies


Now, THAT is quite a good theory! It would explain a lot... But would FRC bolts even emit the same radiation as PGs?

  • 07.18.2004 11:41 PM PDT
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I'm not sure if they do emite the same fequency but its the plasma discharge radiation that gets it so I am guessing its pretty close to the same, and when the infection forms stay on the hunter, its cause they are feeding off of it

  • 07.18.2004 11:47 PM PDT
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Then what about the veteran Elites? I'm sure a few in The Maw (on the POA) got posessed, and if they're veterans then they've been firing plasma weapons and throwing plasma grenades for decades! What about that?

I think that Bungie left out flood Hunters for game playability reasons. The flood are hard enough as is, we don't need to deal with physically augmented and strengthened Hunters too.

  • 07.18.2004 11:54 PM PDT
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about this Mysterious PG radiation- particle, or wave?

  • 07.18.2004 11:55 PM PDT
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remember it took an entire box *not sure how many that is* of plasma granades for johnson to become immune to the flood, and it may be that the elites dont get that kinda of problem and the plasma weapons dont do it, just granades, and possible the fuel rod gun, its high yeild plasma I believe is what the book says the plasma rifles dont give have enought yeild to get that kinda radiation, and it may be that their armour blocks that kind of radiation also

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