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No brutes. The timeline does not allow it.
No matter how much Bungie seems to love the whole Humans <3 Elites thing, we are going to be killing them in Halo: Reach. Theres just no way around it.

If the final game does some sort of total rewrite of the story to cause us to be killing brutes, I just want bungie to know they will have a long time fan sitting cross-armed and making an angry glare in their general direction for quite some time. thats not a threat, its a promise.

  • 06.10.2009 3:40 PM PDT

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I totally agree, brutes would make no sense. Well said.

  • 06.10.2009 3:41 PM PDT
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  • 06.10.2009 3:41 PM PDT

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Halo Wars had Brutes in it and so did Contact Harvest (A novel that starts before the Covenant war even started). Due to Halo Wars and Contact Harvest we just have to assume that whilst we wern't aware of Brutes and Drones in "The fall of Reach" and Halo: CE, they still exsisted, and were still part of the Covenant.

  • 06.10.2009 3:43 PM PDT
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Who -blam!- cares you picky gamer you. lol jk

  • 06.10.2009 3:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Vexinator
Halo Wars had Brutes in it and so did Contact Harvest (A novel that starts before the Covenant war even started). Due to Halo Wars and Contact Harvest we just have to assume that whilst we wern't aware of Brutes and Drones in "The fall of Reach" and Halo: CE, they still exsisted, and were still part of the Covenant.


Yes there were Brutes in Halo Wars but not in the campaign. (At least I don't think they were, I could be confused). They just added them to multiplayer because they needed another leader. But yea, the Brutes did exist of course, but I don't think they will be present in Reach.

  • 06.10.2009 3:46 PM PDT

It's possible that there may be brutes in the game. If you read Contact Harvest, there are brutes in it and that's way before this game takes place.

  • 06.10.2009 3:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: Vexinator
Halo Wars had Brutes in it and so did Contact Harvest (A novel that starts before the Covenant war even started). Due to Halo Wars and Contact Harvest we just have to assume that whilst we wern't aware of Brutes and Drones in "The fall of Reach" and Halo: CE, they still exsisted, and were still part of the Covenant.


I swear to god i wanted to say that but was afraid of people finding a way to shut me up.

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Posted by: Vexinator
Halo Wars had Brutes in it and so did Contact Harvest (A novel that starts before the Covenant war even started). Due to Halo Wars and Contact Harvest we just have to assume that whilst we wern't aware of Brutes and Drones in "The fall of Reach" and Halo: CE, they still exsisted, and were still part of the Covenant.


I swear to god i wanted to say that but was afraid of people finding a way to shut me up.


Lol, yea but we just have to deal with it if Bungie puts them in, as they can theoretically exsist in Halo: Reach... I'd rather Bungie don't put them in though lol

  • 06.10.2009 3:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: Vexinator
Halo Wars had Brutes in it and so did Contact Harvest (A novel that starts before the Covenant war even started). Due to Halo Wars and Contact Harvest we just have to assume that whilst we wern't aware of Brutes and Drones in "The fall of Reach" and Halo: CE, they still exsisted, and were still part of the Covenant.


Yes there were Brutes in Halo Wars but not in the campaign. (At least I don't think they were, I could be confused). They just added them to multiplayer because they needed another leader. But yea, the Brutes did exist of course, but I don't think they will be present in Reach.



They were briefly involved in the campaign, further skewing the established timeline. When MC faced a Brute in First Strike, there was no listed knowledge of them, however according to Contact Harvest, Cole Protocol, and Halo Wars, the UNSC encountered Brutes 20 years prior. This is the difficulty with having so many different types of media addressing the same universe, there are inconsistencies.

What we do know is that in The Fall of Reach the fleet that attacked Reach was an Elite fleet. Not until the events in Halo 2 were Brutes given command over large fleet manuevers. It is highly doubtful that there will be Brutes in this game, not only because of the story line in place, but because people in general are sick of the limited challenge a Brute offers.

  • 06.10.2009 3:53 PM PDT
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perhaps more Elites than Brutes. Them working side-by-side again. Seems plausible.

I'd expect Drones in halo 3, why not Brutes as well? Forget about how mentioned they are in the timeline, hunter's were firing fuel-rod cannons back then. In Halo 3 it was more of a ray, so should they forget that AND all the minor changes they've made to better the game?

  • 06.10.2009 3:54 PM PDT
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Posted by: goldhawk
We should know better, because we are better.

Actually one or two brutes may appear because several brute ships where acitive in military service[contact harvest, cole protocol] so there may be the odd brute or two but the elites are back in buisness! Brutes are dumb and elites are the best.

[Edited on 06.10.2009 3:58 PM PDT]

  • 06.10.2009 3:58 PM PDT