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Subject: Silenced SMG and Automag for Multiplayer?

Has there been any word on this? It would be nice... not in matchmaking just in custom games?

  • 06.11.2009 12:53 PM PDT

Why the hell are you looking at this? Get out.

And no group invites, you jerk. I'm not interested.

There has been word.

They're not in multiplayer. Something to do with the fact that ODST multiplayer is actually Halo 3 multiplayer.

  • 06.11.2009 12:54 PM PDT
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i heard there was no mathcmaking and custom games, just campaign theater and firefight
correct me if im wrong its just a rumor

  • 06.11.2009 12:55 PM PDT

" I will seek vengeance upon those who have betrayed my family, and uncover a conspiracy bigger that I could have imagined. I am Ezio Auditore di Firenze. I am an Assassin"

Although that would have been awesome I don't think it will happen. Silenced SMG doesn't help online and Head Shot Pistols have already been addressed.

  • 06.11.2009 12:56 PM PDT

if knowledge is power and power corrupts, isn't knowledge therefore dangerous?
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Posted by: youjump
i heard there was no mathcmaking and custom games, just campaign theater and firefight
correct me if im wrong its just a rumor

not a rumor. fact
BUT there are 3 new maps coming with it... but before you "they can't add new weapons" me, explain the 7-wood.

  • 06.11.2009 12:56 PM PDT

I think they could patch in the Brute plasma rifle and gang as a DLC package...I would buy it.

  • 06.11.2009 12:57 PM PDT

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Posted by: StP Scar
Sounds like a bunch of Justin Bieber wannabes in here. I bet you all wear skinny jeans too.

Posted by: youjump
i heard there was no mathcmaking and custom games, just campaign theater and firefight
correct me if im wrong its just a rumor

That's disk 1. Disk 2 has Halo 3's Matchmaking, Custom Games and Forge.

Posted by: ALIENwolve
They're not in multiplayer. Something to do with the fact that ODST multiplayer is actually Halo 3 multiplayer.

And the new 3 Mythic maps? Their perfectly capable of implementing new vehicles and weapons into these maps. Everyone playing them would have to have ODST Disk 2.

Posted by: Danman Cash
I think they could patch in the Brute plasma rifle and gang as a DLC package...I would buy it.

Halo 3 doesn't work that way. You can't simply patch weapons and vehicles into existing Halo 3 maps. In order to implement it, they'll have to dig into the map it's self and implement the weapon into it, then re-release the updated version of the map to the public.
Now just imagine re-downloading every Halo 3 map to date. If the Mythic Map Pack is 400MB and it's only 3 maps, imagine downloading all 20something maps again.
It'll easily 5GB.

[Edited on 06.11.2009 1:02 PM PDT]

  • 06.11.2009 12:59 PM PDT

It wouldn't be very hard to add onto it would it? Maybe Free DLC later on?

And the silenced SMG has a scope and improved accuracy... plus it might not show up on the motion tracker. Doesn't help much but people your not shooting at might not notice you.

[Edited on 06.11.2009 1:05 PM PDT]

  • 06.11.2009 1:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: StP Scar
Sounds like a bunch of Justin Bieber wannabes in here. I bet you all wear skinny jeans too.

Posted by: Danman Cash
I think they could patch in the Brute plasma rifle and gang as a DLC package...I would buy it.

Halo 3 doesn't work that way. You can't simply patch weapons and vehicles into existing Halo 3 maps. In order to implement it, they'll have to dig into the map it's self and implement the weapon into it, then re-release the updated version of the map to the public.
Now just imagine re-downloading every Halo 3 map to date. If the Mythic Map Pack is 400MB and it's only 3 maps, imagine downloading all 20something maps again.
It'll easily be 5GB.

  • 06.11.2009 1:02 PM PDT

Posted by: spartan11bungie
Posted by: youjump
i heard there was no mathcmaking and custom games, just campaign theater and firefight
correct me if im wrong its just a rumor

not a rumor. fact
BUT there are 3 new maps coming with it... but before you "they can't add new weapons" me, explain the 7-wood.
It's a pallet swap, kinda like a new skin for guns. There is no difference between that and the Gravity Hammer.

  • 06.11.2009 1:03 PM PDT
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Posted by: spartan11bungie
Posted by: youjump
i heard there was no mathcmaking and custom games, just campaign theater and firefight
correct me if im wrong its just a rumor

not a rumor. fact
BUT there are 3 new maps coming with it... but before you "they can't add new weapons" me, explain the 7-wood.


you sir, are retarded. the 7 wood is not a new weapon. It's only a skin. It doesnt act differently than the gravity hammer.

  • 06.11.2009 1:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: BalliNik
Posted by: spartan11bungie
Posted by: youjump
i heard there was no mathcmaking and custom games, just campaign theater and firefight
correct me if im wrong its just a rumor

not a rumor. fact
BUT there are 3 new maps coming with it... but before you "they can't add new weapons" me, explain the 7-wood.


you sir, are retarded. the 7 wood is not a new weapon. It's only a skin. It doesnt act differently than the gravity hammer.

gee wilikers, your kindness is astonishing.
i said explain, not insult.
point is, they did add a new weapon, with a new name.
and if they can duplicate something, then rename and reskin, why not with armor?
or just reskin/rename the SMG and plasma rifle? then reskin the firing to look fitting?
edit: the only problem i can see with this is the pistol. changing the scope and rate of fire might be a challenge. also with scoping the SMG.

[Edited on 06.11.2009 1:12 PM PDT]

  • 06.11.2009 1:09 PM PDT

Posted by: spartan11bungie
Posted by: youjump
i heard there was no mathcmaking and custom games, just campaign theater and firefight
correct me if im wrong its just a rumor

not a rumor. fact
BUT there are 3 new maps coming with it... but before you "they can't add new weapons" me, explain the 7-wood.

Your right, they can re-skin weapons (add silencer to SMG). And they probably can adjust damage and sound for new maps. But could they add a totally new weapon (new magnum)?

  • 06.11.2009 1:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: spartan11bungie
Posted by: youjump
i heard there was no mathcmaking and custom games, just campaign theater and firefight
correct me if im wrong its just a rumor

not a rumor. fact
BUT there are 3 new maps coming with it... but before you "they can't add new weapons" me, explain the 7-wood.

Your right, they can re-skin weapons (add silencer to SMG). And they probably can adjust damage and sound for new maps. But could they add a totally new weapon (new magnum)?

that's what i edited for...
i don't really see why not. it isn't the h3 disc, so i'd imagine burning some extra weapon coding isn't going to be much of a problem
although it is probably much, much more difficult than it sounds.
and to everyone: i know the 7-wood iis a reskinned grav hammer.
the point of bringing it up is that while it isn't a new weapon, it shows that they could add 8 (is it 8?) more of the weapon on a map as a 'new weapon' (is not on the grav hammer counter), and is re-skinned, along with the name pick-up thingy. and it goes on your back the wrong way.
just used it as a point for say the brute plasma rifle and such.

  • 06.11.2009 1:21 PM PDT

it's funny when morons who know nothing about game design come on here and act cool.

The fact is, the seven-wood merely is code included with the map to pull up the gravity hammer's weapon tag and alter it for that specific instance.

It's like a sealed box of fruit, one where you can only take out fruit, not add fruit. Take an apple out, and paint it orange. Fact is, it's still an apple under the surface, and tastes/ages/moulds over like an apple. You merely modified it a little bit.

What you're suggesting is adding a brand new fruit to that sealed box.

Halo 3's code was only designed for map packs as DLC. So far as I know, stuff like armor and weapons use a different mechanic within the game's engine, and are locked in place. Adding one would mess up the algorithm used for finding the referenced files, and then you would have to go back and recalibrate everything that trees off from that.

If you don't understand that, why are you even arguing on this matter.

[Edited on 06.11.2009 1:31 PM PDT]

  • 06.11.2009 1:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: youjump
i heard there was no mathcmaking and custom games, just campaign theater and firefight
correct me if im wrong its just a rumor

not a rumor. fact
BUT there are 3 new maps coming with it... but before you "they can't add new weapons" me, explain the 7-wood.


If the maps are indeed exclusive to ODST, then why would it be impossible that they couldn't be in matchmaking?

  • 06.11.2009 1:32 PM PDT

if knowledge is power and power corrupts, isn't knowledge therefore dangerous?
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Posted by: Mr Gruntsworthy
it's funny when morons who know nothing about game design come on here and act cool.

The fact is, the seven-wood merely is code included with the map to pull up the gravity hammer's weapon tag and alter it for that specific instance.

It's like a sealed box of fruit, one where you can only take out fruit, not add fruit. Take an apple out, and paint it orange. Fact is, it's still an apple under the surface, and tastes/ages/moulds over like an apple. You merely modified it a little bit.

What you're suggesting is adding a brand new fruit to that sealed box.

Halo 3's code was only designed for map packs as DLC. So far as I know, stuff like armor and weapons use a different mechanic within the game's engine, and are locked in place. Adding one would mess up the algorithm used for finding the referenced files, and then you would have to go back and recalibrate everything that trees off from that.

If you don't understand that, why are you even arguing on this matter.

alrighty, i see your view.
since you are clearly more educated than me on this, please explain how ODST runs off halo 3's engine, yet they added the VISR, new weapons, etc?
guy right below me (uncle)- i know it's a reskin. i'm just saying that they cloned and reskinned the hammer into a new weapon. as in it takes up it's own space, and all that.

[Edited on 06.11.2009 1:42 PM PDT]

  • 06.11.2009 1:34 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Posted by: spartan11bungie
not a rumor. fact
BUT there are 3 new maps coming with it... but before you "they can't add new weapons" me, explain the 7-wood.


Reskin. Its a hammer.

But it would be fun to have the ODST SMG skin and Automag skin in the 3 new maps.

[Edited on 06.11.2009 1:35 PM PDT]

  • 06.11.2009 1:34 PM PDT

I believe they can do this with the three new maps, but I doubt it.

  • 06.11.2009 1:40 PM PDT

i'm so icy.

I wish.

  • 06.11.2009 1:42 PM PDT

i'm so icy.

Posted by: spartan11bungie
Posted by: youjump
i heard there was no mathcmaking and custom games, just campaign theater and firefight
correct me if im wrong its just a rumor

not a rumor. fact
BUT there are 3 new maps coming with it... but before you "they can't add new weapons" me, explain the 7-wood.


Yah, seriously dude, what the -blam!-. Bungie does have some explaining to do about "we can't do any new coding, blah blah blah."

  • 06.11.2009 1:44 PM PDT

We march to the drums of the damned.

NNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOO!! no ODST weapons in multyplayer. Why, well because the only change in multyplayer is the new maps. SO SAYS THE GODLY WILL OF BUNGIE!!!

  • 06.11.2009 1:46 PM PDT

Posted by: BalliNik
Posted by: spartan11bungie
Posted by: youjump
i heard there was no mathcmaking and custom games, just campaign theater and firefight
correct me if im wrong its just a rumor

not a rumor. fact
BUT there are 3 new maps coming with it... but before you "they can't add new weapons" me, explain the 7-wood.


you sir, are retarded. the 7 wood is not a new weapon. It's only a skin. It doesnt act differently than the gravity hammer.
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There was no need for that kind of rudeness.

  • 06.12.2009 2:45 AM PDT
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Oh, look at me. I just called you sir'. I'm a hoity-toity London city gent circa 1845, don't cha know? What Ho, pip pop. Faux flattery like calling someone sir' unnecessarily doesn't make you some sort of smart, plucky, flat-cap wearing hero, it makes you a casually-patronizing fudge nut.

There was no need for that kind of rudeness.
HA!! Fudge nut...

  • 06.12.2009 3:02 AM PDT

I am going to lube your butt hole with nacho cheese and -blam!- you with a crowbar.

I wish they would, but alas, probably not.

  • 06.12.2009 3:21 AM PDT

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