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Subject: Things that need to be fixed from Halo 3

Tank beats everything!

My point has been proven

  • 06.11.2009 4:11 PM PDT

Posted by: TheGreatMoltar
Look, randomly throwing a sticky across the map RARELY results in a stick or kill; if it does, then that person was really lucky. The grenades go as far as they do because of the physics engine. Don't get mad because bungie doesn't defy physics by putting a limiter on their grenade tosses. It's logical and you're bad at using it; deal with it and move on.

Here's the thing, the BR and AR are two weapons in the game. They were made to be a certain strength and used at the players discretion. If you can't win close range with an AR then you aren't very good. Furthermore, it is your CHOICE to use that weapon. There are plenty of weapons to choose from; pick a different one. Also, it takes 4 shots to the head to kill with a BR, bub.

Swearing and racism cannot be controlled. If you don't like it, guess what? Bungie was nice enough to put in a mute feature. Auto aim is needed because it is a console game so people don't get the accuracy they have with a mouse.

Bungie knows how to design games, bub. If you were better you would be doing their job right now. Halo 3 is a well made game. Nothing can be perfect. Lastly, none of you even know what Halo: Reach is going to be like. You can't even compare it to Halo 3 because it might be TOTALLY different.

Peace out, bubs.


Hey Wolverine, whats up (and if you're to young to get that reference, that's to bad)

If you think throwing stickies rarely results in a kill, play more. The BR is far too overpowered. Run into a good BR player with an AR, you'll lose. A GOOD BR player, not some scrub. Swearing and racism can't be controlled, and I often mute the players, but lets be honest here, these players aren't punished soon enough. That's my main gripe. The faster the punishment, the less likely it will happen.

TTYL Logan.

  • 06.11.2009 4:12 PM PDT

Posted by: Sal Fasano
Posted by: TheGreatMoltar
Look, randomly throwing a sticky across the map RARELY results in a stick or kill; if it does, then that person was really lucky. The grenades go as far as they do because of the physics engine. Don't get mad because bungie doesn't defy physics by putting a limiter on their grenade tosses. It's logical and you're bad at using it; deal with it and move on.

Here's the thing, the BR and AR are two weapons in the game. They were made to be a certain strength and used at the players discretion. If you can't win close range with an AR then you aren't very good. Furthermore, it is your CHOICE to use that weapon. There are plenty of weapons to choose from; pick a different one. Also, it takes 4 shots to the head to kill with a BR, bub.

Swearing and racism cannot be controlled. If you don't like it, guess what? Bungie was nice enough to put in a mute feature. Auto aim is needed because it is a console game so people don't get the accuracy they have with a mouse.

Bungie knows how to design games, bub. If you were better you would be doing their job right now. Halo 3 is a well made game. Nothing can be perfect. Lastly, none of you even know what Halo: Reach is going to be like. You can't even compare it to Halo 3 because it might be TOTALLY different.

Peace out, bubs.


Hey Wolverine, whats up (and if you're to young to get that reference, that's to bad)

If you think throwing stickies rarely results in a kill, play more. The BR is far too overpowered. Run into a good BR player with an AR, you'll lose. A GOOD BR player, not some scrub. Swearing and racism can't be controlled, and I often mute the players, but lets be honest here, these players aren't punished soon enough. That's my main gripe. The faster the punishment, the less likely it will happen.

TTYL Logan.
...Really? If you're talking about cross map stickies that are ENTIRELY luck, then they are pretty rare. I've only gotten 1 or 2 of them and I've played over 500 games of halo 3.

The BR takes more skill to use than the AR, you should lose to it. Even so, the AR will almost always win against a BR within its effective range.

And if swearing and racism REALLY bother you that much, you shouldn't be on the internet. If you can just mute them, what's the problem? You really just need to chill and not take them seriously.

  • 06.11.2009 4:16 PM PDT

Tank beats everything!

If you think throwing stickies rarely results in a kill, play more. The BR is far too overpowered. Run into a good BR player with an AR, you'll lose. A GOOD BR player, not some scrub. Swearing and racism can't be controlled, and I often mute the players, but lets be honest here, these players aren't punished soon enough. That's my main gripe. The faster the punishment, the less likely it will happen.

Maybe you should play more... learn how it to play and then come talk to use, seeing how your a scrub.

Second, when will you learn that a BR is not over powered. Halo 3 has one of the most balanced weapons systems ive played ever. COD has nothing on Halo's weapon balancing, its has the worste balance ever. I should know im in pras 7.

So stop whining and deal with the fact that your a scrub and youd get your ass kicked by everyone here.

  • 06.11.2009 4:17 PM PDT

If you can't win a BR battle then you aren't good enough. Plus AR users are noobs that suck at aiming. And as far as swearing and racism goes; people are entitled to their opinions. I swear and say racist things all of the time. I really don't care. Do I hate other races? No. The point is people don't deserve to be punished in any way for that. No body under the age of 18 should even be playing this game. It's rated M for a reason.

I can't stand it when children rant. Jeez.

And, um, wolverine may be old but he's still popular. You know, with the new movie and all. And I definitely know that there was know wolverine reference in there. Sorry, bub, but you are a pretty dumb kid.

  • 06.11.2009 4:24 PM PDT

Wayne Jarvis, Attorney at Law; I have a responsibility to tell you that there is no candy in this office.

Also, the reason you sometimes have to press the d-pad to talk is to prevent lag. They usually have the constant chat for smaller teams, but when you need to communicate with 7 other people, it would be too hard to keep an open chat channel.

  • 06.11.2009 4:25 PM PDT

Posted by: in the Krutch
1-3. There's always going to be some lag from the host's xbox to yours. The reason the grenade doesn't explode is because on the host's xbox you died before you threw the grenade. That can't be fixed without completely getting rid of lag, which is impossibly on an online game.

4. Why would you kill idle players? What's the point? The other team will do this for you.

5. There weren't shield doors in the previous games...

6. How can I say that? Because it's ridiculous and unnecessary. Being able to boot the player should be enough. What if your friend played on your account and kept betraying people and got you banned? That would be really frustrating.

7. What's wrong with a little luck in the game? Is it really that frustrating to be stuck by a crossmap random grenade 1 out of a million times? You seem to have no problem with making noscopes luck and not skill.

8. How can you say H:CE was close up? The most widely used weapon was the pistol, a weapon with a really long range... I think you have it backwards.

9. You're welcome.

10. If you're lucky you're not going to be able to do this very often. If you're skilled you'll be rewarded for it. What's the problem with this?


1-3: I understand the lag issue, which has been prevalent since these are non-dedicated server based games. However, my discrepancy is with the amount of lag. The time it takes for a grenade to be thrown, and land, and explode is at least about a couple seconds (unless its thrown directly at your feet), I simply feel this amount of lag can be limited.

4: This serves two purposes. One, if the idle player is killed by the guardians, it doesn't count as a kill for the other team. I also think this would prevent kids from camping in a corner waiting for you to run by.

5. This is true, but assuming this will be a prequel, it should go back to the H:CE grenade setup, and there likely won't be shield doors.

6. Not something permanent, 24 hours. You are responsible for your account.

7. I have no issues with luck, it needs to happen and it makes for great moments, but it happens far to often to my liking for it to be cool and surprising anymore, it's just frustrating.

8: Based on the maps that I played the majority of the time, Damnation, Chillout, and a couple others (I wasn't an MLG player for H:CE), the pistol still widely used, but the shotgun was more powerful at close range, and the SR was more powerful at distance. The melee system was also the best and most effective of the three games, I feel.

9. You are a nice person :-)

10. I think this is the same as my random nade argument, its luck that happens far to often. The "sweep snipe" was introduced in H2, and it stuck to a lesser extent in H3. Even decent players can swipe snipe, which I do think is just luck.

  • 06.11.2009 4:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sal Fasano
Host advantage
The melee system is awful... that's easily fixed.
*****The spawning system*****
Add more choices for matchmaking
Edit a ranking system that takes a short story to explain
Get some decent maps, similar to the H:CE maps.
Make grenades go off after you die (seems they don't sometimes)
Make plasmas explode ALWAYS (seems they don't sometimes)
Players who sit in one spot for more than 90 seconds are killed
Get rid of the Banshee on small maps
Allow us to carry more than two grenades of one kind. That's just logical.
Get rid of or highly reduce auto-aim
Respond more quickly to reported cheaters
Stop boosters (kids more than 10 levels apart can't be in the same party)
Betrayers get banned after X-number of betrayals.
Quitters get banned X-number of games left.
Put in team snipers and SWAT
Stickies can only fly a specific distance so kids cant stick you from 1k yards away.
H3 was nothing but a BR/SR game, balance weapons! Let players fight up close if they wish.
NO ARMOR. GET RID OF IT.
Stop with the offensive names and symbols that nobody does anything about
Respond to blatant racism and homophobia, don't just let it go.
Don't make it so you must push up to talk
Don't allow the SR to work well at close range. If someone is X-distance from you (within 10 feet), there is a 1% chance you'll kill them with a SR shot.


and last but not least...

ALLOW US TO PLAY THE MAPS AND GAMETYPES WE WANT, EVEN IF ITS UNRANKED!


Wow looks like kids are coming off the H3 forums.

First off host advantage please play halo 2.

People who stand still get killed after 90 seconds. Yeah ur team is still gonna loose.

Respond more quickly to reported cheaters. Dont think youve heard about halo 2.

Put in team snipers and swat. wtf are you sure you own the H3 that I own.

Wait so if i play with my friend from school and were ten ranks apart im a booster whaaaaat.

Stickies only fly a specific distance. You sound very unlucky.

Halo 3 was nothing but sr/br. Please play halo 2 or ask someone about it.

No armor. lol y

dont allow the sr to work at close range. HINT pssssssss dont charge with your AR in a straight line.






[Edited on 06.11.2009 4:40 PM PDT]

  • 06.11.2009 4:27 PM PDT

ok. just for the record, i do kinda agree with what he's saying about wanting more grenades. although i see what you guys are saying about grenade spamming. maybe if everyone just automatically spawned with flame and spike grenades that could solve the problem. i like the i idea of the flame grenades but they're NEVER used or even seen. i think most maps don't even spawn them.

now with the long range sticking. i was once lucky enough to get one of those. i was by the downed phantom on sandtrap, and suck the passenger of a warthog that was driving TOP SPEED through the CENTER of the map. it made my fricking day. i was a much happier person that day because of that kill. DO NOT TAKE OUT THE POSSIBILITY FOR A LONG RANGE STICKY KILL!!!!

  • 06.11.2009 4:28 PM PDT

Tank beats everything!

indeed, and sence only good people play ranked MLG game type then we dont have a problem with the push to talk.

(It would be nice though if you didnt have to in socail team sence its genraly a 5v5)

  • 06.11.2009 4:28 PM PDT

most of your ideas are horrible.. no offense

  • 06.11.2009 4:31 PM PDT

Posted by: SAINT JAMEZ911
[Maybe you should play more... learn how it to play and then come talk to use, seeing how your a scrub.

Second, when will you learn that a BR is not over powered. Halo 3 has one of the most balanced weapons systems ive played ever. COD has nothing on Halo's weapon balancing, its has the worste balance ever. I should know im in pras 7.

So stop whining and deal with the fact that your a scrub and youd get your ass kicked by everyone here.


I am a fairly decent player, I consider myself better than average, however, I find H3 very unenjoyably. The BR IS overpowered, so we simply disagree and/or your wrong, your choice. As far as COD goes, big time gratz on your "pras 7." Send me a friend request and look at my win streak. Do it.

I've backed up what should be changed with legitimate arguments based on my experiences with the game. If I was whining, I would say "ZOMG, H# is trazh, ur noobd"

  • 06.11.2009 4:32 PM PDT

Tank beats everything!

I personally consider you a peice of garbage if you think the BR is over powered. And if you find the game to be not to your likeing dont play it and dont whine to use about how you suck at it.

  • 06.11.2009 4:35 PM PDT

Posted by: SAINT JAMEZ911
I personally consider you a peice of garbage if you think the BR is over powered. And if you find the game to be not to your likeing dont play it and dont whine to use about how you suck at it.


And I find you to be legitimately unable to carry on a conversation with someone you disagree with, and likely (in large part due to this fact), highly unintelligent.

  • 06.11.2009 4:37 PM PDT

Posted by: Sal Fasano

1-3: I understand the lag issue, which has been prevalent since these are non-dedicated server based games. However, my discrepancy is with the amount of lag. The time it takes for a grenade to be thrown, and land, and explode is at least about a couple seconds (unless its thrown directly at your feet), I simply feel this amount of lag can be limited.

4: This serves two purposes. One, if the idle player is killed by the guardians, it doesn't count as a kill for the other team. I also think this would prevent kids from camping in a corner waiting for you to run by.

5. This is true, but assuming this will be a prequel, it should go back to the H:CE grenade setup, and there likely won't be shield doors.

6. Not something permanent, 24 hours. You are responsible for your account.

7. I have no issues with luck, it needs to happen and it makes for great moments, but it happens far to often to my liking for it to be cool and surprising anymore, it's just frustrating.

8: Based on the maps that I played the majority of the time, Damnation, Chillout, and a couple others (I wasn't an MLG player for H:CE), the pistol still widely used, but the shotgun was more powerful at close range, and the SR was more powerful at distance. The melee system was also the best and most effective of the three games, I feel.

9. You are a nice person :-)

10. I think this is the same as my random nade argument, its luck that happens far to often. The "sweep snipe" was introduced in H2, and it stuck to a lesser extent in H3. Even decent players can swipe snipe, which I do think is just luck.

1-3. Hopefully Bungie can do something about this but I doubt it will completely go away.

4. Well, aren't they just going to spawn again? It doesn't do anything. Also, camping, whether you like it or not, is part of the game.

5. That's true, hopefully they take out shield doors.

6. Oh, okay. Well maybe.

7. Maybe you're just really unlucky. On average it's pretty rare.

8. Yes, Halo: CE was well balanced although the pistol was able to kill from every range. Also, a lot of the maps had opened spaces and long lines of sight to fit the pistol's range.

9. I know.

10. It's more skill than luck. Also, how can you tell if your enemies shot you by luck or skill? You can't, but from my experience it takes a lot of skill to do something like that consistently.

  • 06.11.2009 4:54 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Adopt a COD style of matchmaking where you don't need maps for any playlist but people who have the maps can still play on the maps and spawning into games in progress.

[Edited on 06.11.2009 4:58 PM PDT]

  • 06.11.2009 4:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sal Fasano
Posted by: SAINT JAMEZ911
I personally consider you a peice of garbage if you think the BR is over powered. And if you find the game to be not to your likeing dont play it and dont whine to use about how you suck at it.


And I find you to be legitimately unable to carry on a conversation with someone you disagree with, and likely (in large part due to this fact), highly unintelligent.

While I agree that SAINT JAMES needs to lay off, seriously, everyone disagrees with you on almost all of your points. Get over it.

  • 06.11.2009 5:04 PM PDT

Posted by: Sal Fasano

Stop boosters (kids more than 10 levels apart can't be in the same party)


What if my freind just got REach and wanted to play a game of matchmaking and i'm a level 11 in team slayer (i'll be way higher, but this is just an example) and he's starting off at 0. What the hell then man? i just say "Oh, sorry, go home i wanna play TS" ???

  • 06.11.2009 5:04 PM PDT

Tank beats everything!

Posted by: Sal Fasano
Posted by: SAINT JAMEZ911
I personally consider you a peice of garbage if you think the BR is over powered. And if you find the game to be not to your likeing dont play it and dont whine to us about how you suck at it.


And I find you to be legitimately unable to carry on a conversation with someone you disagree with, and likely (in large part due to this fact), highly unintelligent.


I can carry a conversation with someone whom i disagree with, plus im smarter then you bub. Not to menchion more experianced with Halo.

  • 06.11.2009 5:07 PM PDT

agree 100%. But i think h2's melee system was the best and they should go with that one.

  • 06.11.2009 5:21 PM PDT
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I dont think you knew this sergent, but we are disagreeing with this kid. He reminds me of the Lone Wolves junkies that i was playing at a 35 and in a BR game, only I and the winner got more than 2!!! Headshots. Lamo!!!

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  • 06.11.2009 6:04 PM PDT

Tank beats everything!

well this kid has 1 Star and hes whining to us about how bad he gets owed... Or telling us we need to play more, and im a 3 Star. I really think he has no clue what hes talking about.

  • 06.12.2009 7:36 AM PDT
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My view on your suggestions:


Get some decent maps, similar to the H:CE maps.
I liked Halo 2's urban expansion of maps > Halo 1's 'classic' geometrically-encouraged maps

]Make grenades go off after you die (seems they don't sometimes)
Make plasmas explode ALWAYS (seems they don't sometimes)

Lag

Players who sit in one spot for more than 90 seconds are killed
This is dumb- camping can be easily taken care of by nading, unless ur on default snowbound or epitaph, and what happens if the person goes to get a snack for a few min?

Get rid of the Banshee on small maps
there are no banshees on small maps, and Ascension is from Halo 2: if you mean the forge options, that would be inconsiderate, b/c u wouldn't be considering the opinions of others who would want to use them for forge



Get rid of or highly reduce auto-aim
Have you ever tried to BR-betray your team-mate across a big map, such as Standoff? It's hard enough, and to add-on the fact that gameplay would be slower.. it's already become slower from HAlo 2's


Put in team snipers and SWAT
Already in

Stickies can only fly a specific distance so kids cant stick you from 1k yards away
That would ruin part of the fun of the game

H3 was nothing but a BR/SR game, balance weapons! Let players fight up close if they wish.
I AGREE completely

NO ARMOR. GET RID OF IT.
No, this wouldn't provide diversity- remember how EVERYBODY was the same in Halo 2? It was bland and boring-- although I loved the Halo 2's elite > Halo 3's elites.

Stop with the offensive names and symbols that nobody does anything about
Respond to blatant racism and homophobia, don't just let it go.

There's this is almost every game with Mics (and shooting)
Don't make it so you must push up to talk
I AGREE completely


Don't allow the SR to work well at close range. If someone is X-distance from you (within 10 feet), there is a 1% chance you'll kill them with a SR shot.

I think if Team Snipers had bigger, more open maps, this wouldn't be as much of a problem


ALLOW US TO PLAY THE MAPS AND GAMETYPES WE WANT, EVEN IF ITS UNRANKED!
mmm..

** I would change some of the variety of maps and weapons, the shotgun's range is unbelievable, it should be longer, but to help balance that, we would need bigger map varieties, and the AR should have a longer, narrower range. My only other suggestion is, in customs: make ALL options availalbe, no Beam Rifle starts, WTF? same with say the plasma rifle and half of the other weapons. I wouldn't mind seeing rockets that follow the target, but yet I still like missle pod/H3 Rocket balance.

  • 06.12.2009 8:28 AM PDT
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Posted by: SAINT JAMEZ911
I personally consider you a peice of garbage if you think the BR is over powered. And if you find the game to be not to your likeing dont play it and dont whine to use about how you suck at it.


You're an idiot, its so damn versatile, that ALMOST all games, turn out to be BR fire fights, I don't want to use the same goddammed weapon over and over and over and over, wheres the diversity? and to make it even worse, bungie has given us this versatile weapon in matchmaking, making the game revolve around this '4-shot' gun, only picking up other power weapons-- do you use any Dual-weapons? I doubt it- they're underused because the game isnt balanced, the BR can be used for almost any range which makes alot of other weapons useless

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My view on your suggestions:


Get some decent maps, similar to the H:CE maps.

No I think that new maps should be made, forget remakes. Want to play a Halo CE map? Go play Halo CE then.

]Make grenades go off after you die (seems they don't sometimes)
Make plasmas explode ALWAYS (seems they don't sometimes)


Lag. Solution? Get a better connection.

Players who sit in one spot for more than 90 seconds are killed

This is a ridiculous idea, there are many reasons why people could be stood in one place for a long period of time.

Get rid of the Banshee on small maps

What small maps have a banshee on?

Get rid of or highly reduce auto-aim

I think it should be reduced but not completely taken out.

Put in team snipers and SWAT

Are you playing the same game as me? Cause I was playing that last night?

Stickies can only fly a specific distance so kids cant stick you from 1k yards away

Wow. Don't be so predictable then.

H3 was nothing but a BR/SR game, balance weapons! Let players fight up close if they wish.

Hmm, not a bad idea.

NO ARMOR. GET RID OF IT.

No but I think they should at least fix elite armor if it's added to Reach.

Stop with the offensive names and symbols that nobody does anything about
Respond to blatant racism and homophobia, don't just let it go.


There is no way they can stop this online.

Don't make it so you must push up to talk

I AGREE completely


Don't allow the SR to work well at close range. If someone is X-distance from you (within 10 feet), there is a 1% chance you'll kill them with a SR shot.


I think if Team Snipers had bigger, more open maps, this wouldn't be as much of a problem.


ALLOW US TO PLAY THE MAPS AND GAMETYPES WE WANT, EVEN IF ITS UNRANKED!

What?

I'd say about 3 of your Ideas are doable the rest are pointless

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  • 06.12.2009 8:34 AM PDT

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