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Subject: ONI - Office of Naval Intelligence - ODST Connection

"There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe."
Gospel of John, 1:1-7

To start things off, this is all speculations and my ideas on ONI and their presence in Halo 3: ODST. (Notice how I don't say at the top, "Oh Hai There!", clever, huh?)



Ok, so here's the point of this thread, the ONI are in Halo 3: ODST. From what we know, it's because of this building.

Now, we all (should) know that the ONI work in special ways; On-board stealth ships, never speak a word, wear sunglasses (Citation Needed /Sarcasm). We also know the ONI will do ANYTHING to protect their bases and/or ships. (Halo Novels and, of course, ODST) In the Halo Novels (If someone could tell me which, I think it was "The Fall of Reach"), John, Linda, and James (I think those were the three. Citations Needed Again /Non-Sarcasm) protected and destroyed an ONI ship so the Covenant wouldn't discover the location of Earth. Perfectly logical.


Now, the question remains, WHAT information is at the ONI base in New Mombasa? They no longer have to keep Earth's location a secret. (Unless the Covenant are SO oblivious to the fact that they ARE on Earth and didn't even know it) I know that all intelligence groups would destroy their base if it means the enemy will get top secret information if they don't, but WHAT could the possible information be?

1. New weapons?
-----A. Compressed Plasma Beam on UNSC Ships (Like in one Halo Novel where Cortana discovers a way to make the Covenants plasma weapons even stronger)
-----B. A Plasma Nuke (Which has the power of the nuclear bomb's in the book "The Fall of Reach [Again Citations Needed], BUT instead of just the explosion, it releases Plasma, making a nuke with almost a spread [Like on a shot-gun, except with plasma bullets])
-----C. A More Effective Plasma Rifle (able to actually burn through Mjolner [Spelling] armour even quicker)


2. Old/New Shielding?
-----A. A Covenant-Like Shielding for UNSC Ships (Maybe better than Covenant Shielding?)
-----B. Information on Mjolner Shielding and/or New Versions of Shielding
-----C. Shielding That Can Go Over Skin Without Wearing Suit (Not having to wear Mjolner, you could easily put it over your standard Marine Outfit)


3. Other ONI/UNSC Bases?
-----A. Another ONI Base (Somewhere on Earth or in the Galaxy)
-----B. A Civilian Center (Some Human base the Covenant looked over)
-----C. A UNSC Army/Marine/Navy Base (^Look above^)


4. Will We Know?
-----A. Will We Find Out About The Info At the ONI Base? (Or will we be forced to destroy it before learning anything, which brings me to another thing....)
-----B. Will WE Destroy the ONI Base? (We as in being the ODST's, or will ONI [Possibly Dare] destroy the base? Could there be a chance the Covenant destroy it?)


ALSO!!!

Where DOES Dare come into ALL of this?


Is she chosen amongst her fellow ONI officers to accomplish this mission?
Is she a very high ranking officer in ONI?
What will her fate be in ODST?
Will we be able to play as her in ODST? (I know they say we play as ALL the ODST's , but she isn't an OSDT, she is a part of ONI.)


AND!!!

When the Rookie DOES find out all of the clues to the fate of his team, what WILL he do?


Will he track down Dare if she betrayed them?
Will he board a UNSC ship and take off to some special/secret location?
Will he stay in New Mombasa and defeat the rest of the Covenant?
Will he die like the rest of the Great Heroes of Halo 3? (Master Chief Fate Uknown Though)




What do YOU think Rookie's, Dare's, Buck's, Romeo's, Dutch's, Mickey's, Fellow Marines, and ONI's fate are?




Thank you for reading, and if you have an opinion/comment/debate on this, please, leave a comment. =) More will be added on later once I have enough information to continue this Opening Post.

[Edited on 06.13.2009 8:50 PM PDT]

  • 06.13.2009 6:45 PM PDT

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For new weapons.. Anyone remember that huge bomb I think it was an Admiral who had? Sorry I can't remember which book. I think it's what blew up that Covenant ship, he hoped it'd be taken back to High Charity.

Now that'd be cool. =D

  • 06.13.2009 6:48 PM PDT

"There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe."
Gospel of John, 1:1-7

Posted by: ElWonAte
For new weapons.. Anyone remember that huge bomb I think it was an Admiral who had? Sorry I can't remember which book. I think it's what blew up that Covenant ship, he hoped it'd be taken back to High Charity.

Now that'd be cool. =D


That's the one I was talking about when I said something about a Plasma Nuclear Bomb, that would probably destroy a whole galaxy! /Sarcasm

It would still be sweet, though :)

  • 06.13.2009 6:51 PM PDT

Nice thread, oh, and by the time you arrive as The Rookie, the base is destroyed.

  • 06.13.2009 6:52 PM PDT

"There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe."
Gospel of John, 1:1-7

Posted by: Wolverfrog
Nice thread, oh, and by the time you arrive as The Rookie, the base is destroyed.



Yes, I know, =) I don't know what your relating to in my post, but thanks for the compliment, you know, i thought of all of this while in the bathroom.



Now, remember kids, a bathroom is a magical place! jk

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Talking of new weapons. i swear at one point bungie said there were 3 New weapons in odst. obviously the first two arre the pistol and smg. but what is the third? unless they classed the red plasma rifle as NEW.

  • 06.13.2009 6:57 PM PDT

"There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe."
Gospel of John, 1:1-7

Well, since the Halo 1 pistol is new, then I guess the brute plasma rifle would be new too


Oh, and I will be gone for about 30 minutes, and if i come back and post, please, no one yell at me for bumping, Peace!

  • 06.13.2009 7:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: SociallyPsyco
Posted by: ElWonAte
For new weapons.. Anyone remember that huge bomb I think it was an Admiral who had? Sorry I can't remember which book. I think it's what blew up that Covenant ship, he hoped it'd be taken back to High Charity.

Now that'd be cool. =D


That's the one I was talking about when I said something about a Plasma Nuclear Bomb, that would probably destroy a whole galaxy! /Sarcasm

It would still be sweet, though :)
Yeah, that lol.
You talk like my friend.. It's kinda creepy. =S

  • 06.13.2009 7:00 PM PDT

"There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe."
Gospel of John, 1:1-7

Anyone know of a good name for a Plasma Nuclear Bomb?


Maybe the PNB, which had over a million megatons worth of explosives or something.



And do i really creep you out?

  • 06.13.2009 7:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: SociallyPsyco
Anyone know of a good name for a Plasma Nuclear Bomb?


Maybe the PNB, which had over a million megatons worth of explosives or something.



And do i really creep you out?
Yep, really! =S

.. I wish I could remember the name, I imagined it as a really cool looking bomb, =P

  • 06.13.2009 7:36 PM PDT

"There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe."
Gospel of John, 1:1-7

I remember the name vaguelly, it was pretty cool of a name (I think).


Was it the same they placed on reach, or am i just imaging bombs everywhere and there's no such thing?

I think i might be imagining stuff, but i imagine it to be a huge nuke from the adimarel

  • 06.13.2009 7:39 PM PDT

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I would assume the military would have secrets that aren't related to new technology. Government affairs, top priority missions, etc. Don't think you're going to see any sort of replicated covenant tech any time soon, other than MJOLNIR of course.

  • 06.13.2009 7:43 PM PDT
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I hate to nit-pick, but the 3 spartans who disabled the nav data were John, Linda, and James. Sam had died a long time ago and as far as I know there is no spartan named lisa.

  • 06.13.2009 7:47 PM PDT

"There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe."
Gospel of John, 1:1-7

Posted by: Spartan 90210
I would assume the military would have secrets that aren't related to new technology. Government affairs, top priority missions, etc. Don't think you're going to see any sort of replicated covenant tech any time soon, other than MJOLNIR of course.


Well, from the books, Dr. Hassely said they were reverse engineering and replicating covenant tech to use to their advantage, thats where MJOLNIR came from, and why stop there? Of course they kept exploring and testing, you don't just stop when you have a breakthrough do you?


There's no chance they would say. MJOLNIR's enough, we're done, and then burn all the equipment

  • 06.13.2009 7:49 PM PDT

"There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe."
Gospel of John, 1:1-7

Posted by: cB4d93
I hate to nit-pick, but the 3 spartans who disabled the nav data were John, Linda, and James. Sam had died a long time ago and as far as I know there is no spartan named lisa.


Oh thank you! I haven't read the book in a long time, and needed that info, im sorry if i confused anyone

  • 06.13.2009 7:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: SociallyPsyco
Posted by: cB4d93
I hate to nit-pick, but the 3 spartans who disabled the nav data were John, Linda, and James. Sam had died a long time ago and as far as I know there is no spartan named lisa.


Oh thank you! I haven't read the book in a long time, and needed that info, im sorry if i confused anyone
no problem. Im partial to the theory of trying to secure new weapons tech, or maybe creating a massive energy shield for the ships. They already have personal shields so making massive energy shields for the ships seems like the most logical next step.

  • 06.13.2009 7:55 PM PDT

"There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe."
Gospel of John, 1:1-7

Posted by: cB4d93
Posted by: SociallyPsyco
Posted by: cB4d93
I hate to nit-pick, but the 3 spartans who disabled the nav data were John, Linda, and James. Sam had died a long time ago and as far as I know there is no spartan named lisa.


Oh thank you! I haven't read the book in a long time, and needed that info, im sorry if i confused anyone
no problem. Im partial to the theory of trying to secure new weapons tech, or maybe creating a massive energy shield for the ships. They already have personal shields so making massive energy shields for the ships seems like the most logical next step.


Of course, AND they have info of Covenant Technology, courtesy (Spelling, lol) of John and Cortana

  • 06.13.2009 7:57 PM PDT
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Heres the exact quote from the book btw(The Fall of Reach) I shortened it a bit but you get the point. This is when John picks spartans for the task of destroying the nav data.

"He (John) had picked Linda because no other single spartan was as efficient at long range combat (John then gives more reasons). He (John) picked James because James never quit.(again continues to explain his choice)" p. 305

  • 06.13.2009 8:04 PM PDT

"There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe."
Gospel of John, 1:1-7

Posted by: cB4d93
Heres the exact quote from the book btw(The Fall of Reach) I shortened it a bit but you get the point. This is when John picks spartans for the task of destroying the nav data.

"He (John) had picked Linda because no other single spartan was as efficient at long range combat (John then gives more reasons). He (John) picked James because James never quit.(again continues to explain his choice)" p. 305


I remember that exact quote, they were some of his greatest companions


though i forgot, what DID happen to Sam?



And do you think the same information from the ONI ship in the Fall of Reach would be in the ONI base?
Is that the ONLY ONI base or is it one of many, too?

  • 06.13.2009 8:07 PM PDT
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Sam died in the spartans first encounter with the covenant. His suit had been compromised so he could not leave the covie ship they (John,Kelly, Sam) had boarded. So he stays behind to activate the nuke that destroys the covie ship.

The info on the ONI ship would not be necsessary for the ONI base on Earth, as it contained the data for where earth was, which would be kind of pointless to save into a computer thats on earth. They had to destroy the data so that the covies wouldnt find Earth or the rest of the Inner Colonies.

There are many ONI bases, there locations are never disclosed however.

  • 06.13.2009 8:13 PM PDT

"There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe."
Gospel of John, 1:1-7

Posted by: cB4d93
Sam died in the spartans first encounter with the covenant. His suit had been compromised so he could not leave the covie ship they (John,Kelly, Sam) had boarded. So he stays behind to activate the nuke that destroys the covie ship.

The info on the ONI ship would not be necsessary for the ONI base on Earth, as it contained the data for where earth was, which would be kind of pointless to save into a computer thats on earth. They had to destroy the data so that the covies wouldnt find Earth or the rest of the Inner Colonies.

There are many ONI bases, there locations are never disclosed however.


I feel so stupid talking to you... =)


Ok, yah i forgot about CASTLE base...


Maybe the ONI base in ODST will be like the CASTLE base in The Fall of Reach

  • 06.13.2009 8:16 PM PDT
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no need to feel stupid my friend.

CASTLE was a long ways underground,capable of taking a hit from an 80-Megaton nuke, it held the ONIs most secret information. The base on Earth probably holds a similar purpose though it does not seem a smart choice to put an ONI building in plain sight. Its essentialy saying "hey look, blow this up/steal everything inside!" I imagine another base is in a far more secret as of yet undisclosed location.

  • 06.13.2009 8:20 PM PDT

"There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe."
Gospel of John, 1:1-7

But maybe they are just useing reverse sciecology on them :)



Maybe there is another similar CASTLE base somewhere in New Mombasa, and maybe thats where Dare and/or The Rookie would go

  • 06.13.2009 8:45 PM PDT
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Dare is obviously after something important to the war, so it could be possible

  • 06.13.2009 8:52 PM PDT

"There came a man who was sent from God; his name was John. He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all men might believe."
Gospel of John, 1:1-7

Posted by: cB4d93
Dare is obviously after something important to the war, so it could be possible



The most important thing in a war is information, look at it this way...



Information = Technology


So we could conclude that the ONI have some sort of machine or tech that could help win the war, but of course..


Information = Good Strategy
Good Strategy = Advantage
Advantage = Win (Likely)

We could also conclude that ONI has figured out a brilliant strategy that could confuse or take on the Covenant, which ends in win

  • 06.13.2009 8:57 PM PDT

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