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Subject: The Flaws with Current Theories

Cave Johnson here, we're done!

PS: If you are reading this comment while imagining my voice, don't panic. That's just a side effect of the testing.

In this forum, I'll debunk a good amount of theories about Halo: Reach. Yes some of them are ridiculous but there are some that are convincing but do not fill the necessary holes to be right.

As a disclaimer to all current theories: Halo: Reach is a prequel, that is all that we truly know about the current game. All theories saying that it is time travel, or it is about the battle of reach, is not correct due to the fact of our limited knowledge about the game coming out (hopefully) in 2010.

1.)Time Travel Theory:
This theory suggests that the planet that Master Chief was floating towards is the same planet in the Halo: Reach video. The problem with that is the planet in the Legendary ending is not glassed and is covered in forerunner structures Just take a look in this picture. Along the planet is forerunner structures showing that it could not be reach. The next idea along with the time theorist theory is that it could be the planet but in the future. The problem with that though is that it is a prequel, and could not take place after the original 3 Halo games.

2.)Battle of Reach Theory:
Although this is the strongest theory with very little holes in it, it still can not hold all the water in the bucket. The theory suggests that the battle takes place only on reach and there only. It also says that the chief can not be the leader seeing as he was not on the original battle of reach. The problem with that is the silhouette shows otherwise. On the battle of Reach, Fred was the leader of the spartans. He is most commonly known as the second best guy next to chief, and he has a knife that he holds dear. In the silhouette the person with the knife is only in the background and not the leader of the team shown. What this means is that it can't be just about Reach when the leader is not even in the leading position.

Another hole is of the spartans mentioned in the video itself. Spartan 259, and spartan 320. Apparently these are class 2 spartans, which is completely unheard of in both of the books Fall of Reach and First Strike. If the game stayed true to the books, then there would be no spartans 259 or 320, the original spartan numbers never went that high.

I would also like to mention that we do not know for 100% what this game will exactly be about. It has no evidence as to which planet this is. It could be Sigma Octanus IV for all we know. So don't go off saying that you know where it is exactly, because the truth is that you don't. I don't know either what it is exactly about, and I don't want to get myself stuck into thinking it as something else and then have it turn out to be completely wrong.

So enough with the theories, enough with the educated guesses, Just post them out as a possibility rather than a fact. It's so easy to come up with some insane idea about the game.

Like this one: I think that the game is based off of the spartans that were on the ship Spirit of Fire after the end of Halo: Wars. The ship traveled to reach and and it's spartans helped with the ground fight before the ship was broken in half (see video). So this means that bungie is making a RTS based on the spartans in the Spirit of Fire.

^See how ridiculous that is, it has plenty of holes in it.

So again, enough with the theories, keep it only as possibilities and not theories.

  • 06.14.2009 5:53 AM PDT

Ha, I thought you were serious about your theory at the end. I laughed.

  • 06.14.2009 6:03 AM PDT

Cave Johnson here, we're done!

PS: If you are reading this comment while imagining my voice, don't panic. That's just a side effect of the testing.

Posted by: Kurty66
Ha, I thought you were serious about your theory at the end. I laughed.


Yeah it gave me a laugh when I first heard it too.

  • 06.14.2009 6:05 AM PDT

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some have more than holes, they have huge gaping ones, right in the botom of the bucket
i try to use my head, the facts and the current-to-that-time events in my theories, i believe halo 3s legendary ending may start off Halo: Onyx if it ever gets made, for now, nothing halo 3 did has anything to do with reach, its not chief in it, best bet is fred. and those "sierra" characters in the video, i think, are marines or ODSTs, fireteam sierra is the only conclusion i can come up with that can support a number as high as 320, the SIIs got up to 150 so that excludes them

the game will involve spartans, its definate asby the end of first strike they were the only ones that survived. and besides, a return to reach after halo 3 is impossible, when dr halsey removed the crystal in that big room the gravity faded away

  • 06.14.2009 6:11 AM PDT

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And please for the love of all that is tru7h. can people stop saying its Sam on the far left. HE'S DEAD FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. DEAD
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that stupid thread that now has 800 replies still thinks sam is alive.

  • 06.14.2009 6:19 AM PDT

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Posted by: darkruby
And please for the love of all that is tru7h. can people stop saying its Sam on the far left. HE'S DEAD FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. DEAD
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that stupid thread that now has 800 replies still thinks sam is alive.


theres an explanation for everything, and theyre explanation is, they havent read the book and just ecause the played the games they know everything

sam was the first to die, in 2525 aboard a covenant vessel against a squad of jackals, they punched through his suit and, having no way to repair it, he told kelly and john to go without him, thus preparing john for the trials that accompanied leading his spartans into war

  • 06.14.2009 6:25 AM PDT

Five years older and wiser
The fires are burning, I'm fire, never tire
Slay warriors in the forests, and on hire

Now i dont beleive in the time travel stuff and that. i kno its a prequel.
but someone compared the picture at the end of halo 3, and the reach trailer. and you say that its forunner structers. but there the same on the planet in the reach trailer..

  • 06.14.2009 7:04 AM PDT

Cave Johnson here, we're done!

PS: If you are reading this comment while imagining my voice, don't panic. That's just a side effect of the testing.

Posted by: ApocalypeX
Now i dont beleive in the time travel stuff and that. i kno its a prequel.
but someone compared the picture at the end of halo 3, and the reach trailer. and you say that its forunner structers. but there the same on the planet in the reach trailer..


It's not the same. The thing is that the entire scenery is different. The sun's are different colors, the background is completely different, and the structures are different from the planet's cities.

The planet did not contain that many lights and that many structures, not to mention the fact that there is no empty spaces on the halo 3 legendary planet showing the oceans on the planet.

So no, they are not the same. It also is not glassed at all which eliminates the possibility of it being reach.

  • 06.14.2009 7:10 AM PDT
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Posted by: DarkScythe 058
some have more than holes, they have huge gaping ones, right in the botom of the bucket
i try to use my head, the facts and the current-to-that-time events in my theories, i believe halo 3s legendary ending may start off Halo: Onyx if it ever gets made, for now, nothing halo 3 did has anything to do with reach, its not chief in it, best bet is fred. and those "sierra" characters in the video, i think, are marines or ODSTs, fireteam sierra is the only conclusion i can come up with that can support a number as high as 320, the SIIs got up to 150 so that excludes them

the game will involve spartans, its definate asby the end of first strike they were the only ones that survived. and besides, a return to reach after halo 3 is impossible, when dr halsey removed the crystal in that big room the gravity faded away


I'm pretty sure "Sierra" is another name for spartans.
Two reasons.
1. Master Chief was reffered too as Sierra 117 for some of Halo 3.
2. The last lines in the Reach trailer also tell us this. They go:
"This is Sierra 259, you've got spartans on the ground, we aren't going anywhere"
I'm gonna go on a limb here and say that by "we" he means spartans.

  • 06.14.2009 7:16 AM PDT

Posted by: darkruby
And please for the love of all that is tru7h. can people stop saying its Sam on the far left. HE'S DEAD FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. DEAD
D
E
A
D
that stupid thread that now has 800 replies still thinks sam is alive.
Bull crap John time traveled back to when Sam was alive pulled him out of the covie ship time traveled into the future so the could battle together at Reach. Come on people use some common sense.


*the preceding was sarcasm but hopefully I didn't have to tell you.*

  • 06.14.2009 7:29 AM PDT

Old School

Posted by: halomhm214423534
Posted by: darkruby
And please for the love of all that is tru7h. can people stop saying its Sam on the far left. HE'S DEAD FOR CRYING OUT LOUD. DEAD
D
E
A
D
that stupid thread that now has 800 replies still thinks sam is alive.
Bull crap John time traveled back to when Sam was alive pulled him out of the covie ship time traveled into the future so the could battle together at Reach. Come on people use some common sense.


*the preceding was sarcasm but hopefully I didn't have to tell you.*



hahaha yeah, its great to see everyone using common sense, especially in the halo reach and ODST forums :)

  • 06.14.2009 7:49 AM PDT

Five years older and wiser
The fires are burning, I'm fire, never tire
Slay warriors in the forests, and on hire

Posted by: tinyohyeah
Posted by: ApocalypeX
Now i dont beleive in the time travel stuff and that. i kno its a prequel.
but someone compared the picture at the end of halo 3, and the reach trailer. and you say that its forunner structers. but there the same on the planet in the reach trailer..


It's not the same. The thing is that the entire scenery is different. The sun's are different colors, the background is completely different, and the structures are different from the planet's cities.

The planet did not contain that many lights and that many structures, not to mention the fact that there is no empty spaces on the halo 3 legendary planet showing the oceans on the planet.

So no, they are not the same. It also is not glassed at all which eliminates the possibility of it being reach.


i know this im just saying, i can see where there coming from.

  • 06.14.2009 7:59 AM PDT