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Subject: Does NO BR even matter?

93% of statistics are lies. Formerly Xfire Grunt. Unfortunately, you can't change the WLID for your BNET account, so I had to create an alternate account. My other WLID was spam city (and it was my e-mail account too).

I pretty much only use Rifles in the games I play (Halo 3: BR, COD:M16, etc), and I also like the BR for competitive Halo 3 online play and things like that..

So I was pretty unhappy about not having a BR in Halo 3:ODST. Or another "replacement rifle".

That is until I helped some of my friends get the Legendary achievements (took them a while apparently). The BR is pretty useless in Campaign anyways. Not that its a bad gun, it kicks ass on Covenant (and there are no Flood in ODST). The thing is the Carbine is the gun to use in Campaign. Why? Well you actually get Carbine ammunition....you don't really get BR ammunition in Campaign. So the Carbine is > BR in Campaign just like the BR > Carbine in Multi-player because you can actually pick up the Carbine.

In fact if there are a bunch of Jackals, you're pretty much set considering Jackals use Carbines...and Sniper rifles exclusively. Not to mention Brutes use them too. And you can 1-shot grunts with the Carbine, so other then Hunters you are set for Carbine ammunition.

So I get an AR in Halo 3:ODST which is pretty cool. The BR is not that good in campaign...because of lack of ammunition. And it is terrible against Flood (but there are no Flood in ODST).

[Edited on 06.14.2009 8:53 PM PDT]

  • 06.14.2009 8:12 PM PDT
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I disagree many of the guns in the game are just clones of each other with slightly different attributes, while the BR is a great mid ranged weapon and could be helpful especially in ODST because you could shoot the covenant from a distance safely.

  • 06.14.2009 8:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sidewayed
I disagree many of the guns in the game are just clones of each other with slightly different attributes, while the BR is a great mid ranged weapon and could be helpful especially in ODST because you could shoot the covenant from a distance safely.


Yeah you didn't read the post. The BR kicks ass, but the you don't get ammunition. The Carbine gets Ammunition in Campaign and it has the same skillset as the Battle Rifle (plus its single shot).

  • 06.14.2009 8:29 PM PDT
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Posted by: The Desert Wolf
im one second from taking this to the next level.

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Posted by: Sidewayed
I disagree many of the guns in the game are just clones of each other with slightly different attributes, while the BR is a great mid ranged weapon and could be helpful especially in ODST because you could shoot the covenant from a distance safely.


Yeah you didn't read the post. The BR kicks ass, but the you don't get ammunition. The Carbine gets Ammunition in Campaign and it has the same skillset as the Battle Rifle (plus its single shot).
You know, I understand (and actually agree) with what you're saying, but you're throwing around a lot of terms that don't quite fit here. Calling the BR an AR just because you think of it as one is only gonna confuse people and skillset? Isn't that specifically for RPG classes??

[Edited on 06.14.2009 8:41 PM PDT]

  • 06.14.2009 8:40 PM PDT
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So why have any Human weapons at all?

  • 06.14.2009 8:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ksychutrya
Posted by: Sidewayed
I disagree many of the guns in the game are just clones of each other with slightly different attributes, while the BR is a great mid ranged weapon and could be helpful especially in ODST because you could shoot the covenant from a distance safely.


Yeah you didn't read the post. The BR kicks ass, but the you don't get ammunition. The Carbine gets Ammunition in Campaign and it has the same skillset as the Battle Rifle (plus its single shot).
You know, I understand (and actually agree) with what you're saying, but you're throwing around a lot of terms that don't quite fit here. Calling the BR an AR just because you think of it as one is only gonna confuse people and skillset? Isn't that specifically for RPG classes??


The BR is an AR though, it is basically an M16. An Assault Rifle is a multi-purpose gun.

  • 06.14.2009 8:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sidewayed
So why have any Human weapons at all?


So that the humans don't fire alien weapons (like in Gears of War)? Also human weapons seem to be more for multi-player, while covenant are for Campaign.

I mean I don't really care the BR has the same skill set as the Carbine, and it is the same class of gun.

  • 06.14.2009 8:54 PM PDT
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People have preferences though

I happen to prefer the BR


So why have Human weapons n campaign then if it is for covenant

  • 06.14.2009 8:58 PM PDT
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I can only please one person per day.

Today isn't your day.

Tomorrow isn't looking too good either.

Its not for the Covenant. The OP is just stating the obvious of any shooter game - it is often more advantageous to use the enemy's weapons then your own, because there will be an abundance of extra ammo and supplies than if you only used your own.

IE: IIn COD, using the MP40 and Kar98 will make your life easier than using the Garand and Thompson. In Gears, using the Hammerburst and Boltok will make it easier then the Lancer and Snub. In Rainbow Six, AK's are abundant.

  • 06.14.2009 9:04 PM PDT

BR ammo is abudant, though im more towards thinking that isnt quite in its mass production phase at this point in time. its a theory

  • 06.14.2009 9:40 PM PDT

the br is the only way i get kills if i dont have one of those then its luck but i dont really care it's not in odst.

  • 06.14.2009 10:47 PM PDT

Posted by: Ksychutrya
So I get an AR in Halo 3:ODST which is pretty cool. The BR is not that good in campaign...because of lack of ammunition. And it is terrible against Flood (but there are no Flood in ODST).


umm... did you say that the br is terrible against the flood? i've gotten through floodgate pretty easily on legendary with just a br and sticky grenades. i'd say the br is great against (most of) the flood. it just sucks against those shapeshifting things.(pure forms?)

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Posted by: Sidewayed
People have preferences though

I happen to prefer the BR



Sucks to be you then. It's not going to be in ODST. Stop bringing it up ANYWHERE. Just quiet, and move on.

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Wow kid I didn't even bring it up I was just telling the OP.

And it probably sucks to be your virgin ass kid who cant do anything better than troll around here offering nothing to the conversation just making a sly ass remark. Hope I don't play against you online cause you won't be able to back up anything except your ass into your dads dick

/rant

Edit: wow no blam! wtf?

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  • 06.15.2009 12:01 AM PDT
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Yes it does matter that was my favorite gun

  • 06.15.2009 7:51 AM PDT
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I like using the BR and all but you're actually right, the Carbine is better for campaign. Like you said, its more available to you AND it can fire faster than a BR... at least I think it does. Might just be me but idk lol

  • 06.15.2009 7:54 AM PDT

NO NO NO

  • 06.15.2009 7:58 AM PDT

It matters to people who like the BR, but to me no.

I much prefer the auto mag.

  • 06.15.2009 8:04 AM PDT

I was saddend when I heard that the Br wasn't coming back back for ODST but then I thought that now there is a higher chance to get the super assult rifle back from Halo: CE, it had 60 rounds in a mag and was usually super accurate and when you fired it you felt the kick like you would out of a br. also now im thinking of the old shotty that had like 12 shot but for campaign it would be awesome if it was a cartridge fed shotgun instead of haveing to stick on shell in at a time.

It almost like the war between the humans and coventant is a war between men and maggots, or wolfs and dragons, of Men riding dragons throwing wolfs at maggots!!!

  • 06.15.2009 8:10 AM PDT

79/79 achievements in halo 3

blacklisted for speaking the truth

Posted by: Ksychutrya
Posted by: JETST0RM
Posted by: Ksychutrya
Posted by: Sidewayed
I disagree many of the guns in the game are just clones of each other with slightly different attributes, while the BR is a great mid ranged weapon and could be helpful especially in ODST because you could shoot the covenant from a distance safely.


Yeah you didn't read the post. The BR kicks ass, but the you don't get ammunition. The Carbine gets Ammunition in Campaign and it has the same skillset as the Battle Rifle (plus its single shot).
You know, I understand (and actually agree) with what you're saying, but you're throwing around a lot of terms that don't quite fit here. Calling the BR an AR just because you think of it as one is only gonna confuse people and skillset? Isn't that specifically for RPG classes??


The BR is an AR though, it is basically an M16. An Assault Rifle is a multi-purpose gun.


FALSE an assault rifle is a rifle that uses an intermediate round and has selective firing modes your definition is wrong, the fact that the Battle Rifle uses a large round 9.5X40mm round where the Assault rifle uses the 7.62X51mm making the Assault rifle an Assault rifle (because in the books it can be switched to semi-automatic) the battle rifle's large round makes it a battle rifle

  • 06.15.2009 8:13 AM PDT

There is a flaw in your logic.

You are saying that the BR is good, but bad when you don't have enough ammo, so it is a good thing it isn't in Halo 3: ODST.

However, whatever human weapon you have, the covenant won't be using, so an improved version of your logic would be that any covenant weapon would be good in campaign, as you would have plenty of ammo, as there are plenty of enemies to kill. =]

  • 06.15.2009 8:26 AM PDT

Four shots, four kills, reload, repeat. This is the work of a sniper.

OK, I just have to jump in here and say the BR is perfect against flood. Usually on combat forms its 1-3 shots and they are dead. If you have to reload, just throw a grenade. I've gotten through just using a BR and a close ranged weapon like the shotgun.

On topic, yes, it doesn't matter that there is no BR because there is a carbine anyway. and I don't care because I'll be using the auto-mag.

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  • 06.15.2009 8:28 AM PDT

All I ask is that you don't try to capture me.

The BR isn't supposed to be good against flood (think: Halo 2), they just nerfed flood forms in H3 to make them easier to kill. But there's no flood in ODST, so let's move on.

What the OP is saying makes perfect sense: use the enemy's weapons against them, and you'll never worry about ammo again. The problem with that is that you're on Earth, where they make BRs, so I would expect more than a few to be lying around places. On H2 Outskirts there were plenty of BRs and ammo next to all those dead guys. ; )

'Course this doesn't matter since there's no BR in ODST...

  • 06.15.2009 8:53 AM PDT
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The BR is great against the flood. Just shoot them in the chest to pop the infection form and they are down. But i do see what your saying about carbine ammo, and i completely agree.

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  • 06.15.2009 8:55 AM PDT

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Posted by: cB4d93
The BR is great against the flood. Just shoot them in the chest to pop the infection form and they are down. But i do see what your saying about carbine ammo, and i completely agree.


I see, well I never tried using the BR against the flood in Halo 3, because in Halo 2 it was a terrible idea. Dual SMGS + Plasma Rifles were far more powerful against the Halo 2 flood (and pre-patch the SMG was pure destruction).

  • 06.15.2009 10:14 AM PDT

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