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Subject: Oh, Hello there James! Where's Sam?
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I am soooo surprised how nobody has noticed who the second spartan from the left is. Can you guess? James. James lost his arm during a fight with hunters on Sigma Octanus IV. To be more specific he lost his arm from the elbow down; it got burnt away. By looking you can tell that the arm is shorter, A LOT more skinny, doesn't have any armor plating, and has a robotic look to it.

No his arm wasn't flash cloned, the UNSC can only do that with organs. This proves that Sam won't be in the game. Why? James replaced Kurt on Blue Team whom replaced Sam. This proves the date to be during the Battle of Reach where James already lost his arm.

I'm not trying to ruin people's theories of Sam but come on, let's be realistic. We know the game won't be about the whole book. I know a bunch of us WANT Sam to be in it but he's not and I think we should just accept that. We can see the signs of who the spartans are just by looking. James and the arm, Fred and the knife, Linda and the sniper, John in the middle, and the other spartan. Check out the pic I will soonpost and look at 'Linda'. The reason the helmet looks different is due to the light shining over the helmet. You can notice it if you look at it long enough.Spartan Goodness

Now we can tell that by the looks of it Kelly isn't in the pic but here's the thing. This doesn't have to be the spartans who fight during the ground ops but rather a bunch of the spartans that you see in the game or survive but then that would kick James off the list. But if you look at the arm you can't honestly disagree that the arm doesn't look like robotic or prostetic arm and that it doesnt' seem like James. Also given the general date of Halo I would think robotic limb replacement would be possible atleast with ONI.

Just let me know if you think it is James.

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  • 06.15.2009 5:15 PM PDT

Posted by: Shadowman235
Hobo Grunt's mother died, so everyone thought 'Sum1 ded! This will be funeeh! LAFFF AT ME NOW THAT I MAKE FUN OF DED PEPEL'.

They get a special place in hell.

Nice theory but you can see the rest of his arm behind the spartan to his right.

It might be sam or something because Sam was a head taller than the other spartans and he was the strongest, which is why he is holding that enormous gun with 1 hand.

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  • 06.15.2009 5:26 PM PDT
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You can see that the smaller arm is the spartan I am assuming is James due to the other spartan's size. The small arm looks too small...
Wait did you look at the enhanced pic of the banner? You can tell who's arm is who's.

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I at least agree that his right arm looks mostly robotic, which probably supports the James theory.

Also: I guess we'll proabably be seeing zee Master Chiefffz face in this game finally aye>?

  • 06.15.2009 5:30 PM PDT

Posted by: Shadowman235
Hobo Grunt's mother died, so everyone thought 'Sum1 ded! This will be funeeh! LAFFF AT ME NOW THAT I MAKE FUN OF DED PEPEL'.

They get a special place in hell.

between the torso and arm of the spartan on the right of him you can see the actual arm. That little robotic looking thing is just the other spartan next ti him's arm.

  • 06.15.2009 5:32 PM PDT
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Posted by: Melkoret
I at least agree that his right arm looks mostly robotic, which probably supports the James theory.

Also: I guess we'll proabably be seeing zee Master Chiefffz face in this game finally aye>?

I honestly dont want too,I like the mystery.

  • 06.15.2009 5:32 PM PDT
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:) I don't want to see his face but that's me. Don't expect to see his face though, most likely not.

I'm talking about the spartan second from the left 'his' right arm. If you look at the enhanced version above via my link you can see the larger spartan's arm behind supposed James' arm. The arm looks small on James and you think it is the arm of the biggest spartan? Are you mad! jk

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I think the arm only looks small because its cocked back going for hes or her holster

  • 06.15.2009 5:38 PM PDT
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But if you look clost enough at the upper arm to elbow and lower arm transfer you will notice the SIGNIFICANT change in arm width. Pluss the rest of the spartans are at ease so why would he be reaching for his pistol? In my opinion it would offset the picture's mood.

  • 06.15.2009 5:48 PM PDT

Here's my theory.

The big Spartan looks like he is grabbing the little Spartan's ass. I think the big Spartan is g'ay, and the little one is used to satisfy his fetish of midgets. Bungie are taking a more camp approach with Halo Reach.

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oo kinda seeing it know. but i cant get my mind off the dimensions of the body its to lady like

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Posted by: StrifeUK
Here's my theory.

The big Spartan looks like he is grabbing the little Spartan's ass. I think the big Spartan is g'ay, and the little one is used to satisfy his fetish of midgets. Bungie are taking a more camp approach with Halo Reach.



you just cleared up so much your a life saver

  • 06.15.2009 5:53 PM PDT
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I know what you mean but remember this: Spartans all looked the same in their armor in the sense that you couldn't tell males froms females while they were wearing it. James can just be a skinnier and shorter spartan but still a spartan non-the-less.

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yes that is what it says in the books but maybe for the games sake bungie wants you to be able to establish male from female. think about the cinematics it would be weird to have everybody lookin the same but one or two have a female voice

  • 06.15.2009 5:58 PM PDT
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I understand where your coming from bro but that arm is just way too obvious in my opinion and remember spartans had a variety of looks for both male and females. Not all male spartans were like John. Fred wasn't too skinny or too tall. Sam was huge and John was average. It all varies really.

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true man its a good theory. i hope you dont mind the change of topic but i just joined the forums today and was wondering if you could help me out. has anyone made any speculation on the circular atachments to the cheif and freds helmets?

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Light bulbs. They dont have infrared built in.

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  • 06.15.2009 6:17 PM PDT
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Yeah most likely flashlight even though spartans can virtually see in the dark. Or helmet cams because spartans took them on all of their missions, so I am leaning towards the helmet cams. Also since the armor is Mark IV(you can tell by looking at it) it is possible that the game actually starts off before Reach and ends right before the battle. Like I said since John has a helmet cam it is possible that the game has a level on Sigam Octanus IV where he recorded the battle. There could be an objective to capture evidence of Engineers or something via helmet cam for UNSC scientists. It's unlikely but that's basically just the armor talking for me right there. Either it's the Mark IV or Bungie redesigned the Mark V look which would ruin Halo:CE. Since this game has multiplayer most likely then the whole game you will have Mark IV suits meaning you don't actually fight during the battle of reach but favors towards what I said above about playing before hand with Mark IV suits(which I prefer to be honest).

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  • 06.15.2009 6:25 PM PDT

The helmet cam was a fiber optic cord that connected to a port on John's armor. Second, I think the UNSC has the technology to make a full length robot arm- read Contact Harvest

  • 06.15.2009 6:39 PM PDT

But Sam is said to be a whole head taller than John the middle and looking at the pic he is. But he has a combat knife so it would be Fred because that was his weapon of choice

  • 06.15.2009 6:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: StrifeUK
Here's my theory.

The big Spartan looks like he is grabbing the little Spartan's ass. I think the big Spartan is g'ay, and the little one is used to satisfy his fetish of midgets. Bungie are taking a more camp approach with Halo Reach.

i just lol'd

  • 06.15.2009 6:44 PM PDT

Sam is dead. He died an extremely long time before the fall of Reach. So unless Bungie has decided to
1. Make Reach a game about the books
or
2. Have Sam be resurrected through black magic
then Sam is dead. All I have to say about mister "Big Guy On The Left" is that maybe he is wearing an older modified armor. Maybe he is wearing a secret armor we don't know about yet. Don't automatically assume that everyone of those people are Spartans, because there were marines on Reach. There were Mark 1, 2, and 3 armors on Reach. Maybe someone put on one of those. Maybe it was modified, so it did not need a generator. Don't assume, because it makes an ass out of you and me.

  • 06.15.2009 6:49 PM PDT
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They wouldn't be wearing any of those armors because they are spartans. Those armors were basically fails. There other spartans taller than John. It is most likely Will or someone else.

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Nice theory.

  • 06.16.2009 6:59 PM PDT

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That's a female (I doubt that of the males would be so frail-looking), and her arm looks short in perspective because she has her elbow bent and her hand poised to unholster her sidearm (which is on her thigh).

  • 06.16.2009 7:01 PM PDT

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