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It's a freakin normal turret. Someone has to be able to carry it to set it up. They don't have spartans running around setting up turrets. Just because he can take it off the stand doesn't mean he has super human strength.

  • 06.16.2009 8:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: just another fan
Yeah, because we all know that weird guys on youtube always speak the truth.

Posted by: Hot Sauce 147
Posting on bungie.net should require that the user has had to have read a chapter book all the way through.

And anyways the turrets are probably only 50 or less pounds.

  • 06.16.2009 8:57 PM PDT

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He was talking about the physicsin the world of halo, not the real world

And there was video footage of an ODST holding a grav hammer

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ODSTs don't run as fast as Spartans do, they can barely hold the turret when un-mounted, as they move even slower with that on, and they jump nowhere near as high as a Spartan.

Like Bungie (Brian Jarrard I believe) said, ODSTs are the best of the best, and are the rank right below a Spartan.

  • 06.16.2009 9:00 PM PDT

The turret (or so I'm told) is only in Firefight.
As for running, I don't believe they are faster, or as fast. I think their quite slow.


And could you link the jacked Wraith video?

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Posted by: Waffles108
As for running, I don't believe they are faster, or as fast. I think their quite slow.

They're practically as fast (or slow in other minds) as Marines. That's nowhere near as fast as a Spartan.

  • 06.16.2009 9:07 PM PDT

ODST's got Staroids?

  • 06.18.2009 1:20 AM PDT
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Because its a FREAKING GAME.

Why do people keep making topics about this?

Can't you accept the fact that this is not realistic by no means?

  • 06.18.2009 1:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: BDfreshman
I've given up trying to reason with the idiot infestation here in the ODST forums. I think I've seen one intelligent post (maybe a few more) against why the turret matter shouldn't change. And you know what? I could care less. It's not going to impact the gameplay, I'll still enjoy the hell out of it. But what really gets me, is when someone points out a major flaw in halo lore, people jump on him and attack him. He's right, and you guys know it. ODST's shouldn't be able to lift turrets/break open wraith hatches. I haven't seen one reason at all as to why they should be able to.

I don't know who said it, but the person who said something about games/videos getting worse as soon as they get rid of some of the basic principles was absolutely correct. It made me smile to see such an intelligent post. And then, someone tried to prove him wrong by being an idiot. That made me un-smile(?). Something about magic potions (made me smile). Then someone tried to be incredibly sarcastic and they failed. Epicly.

Like I've said before and before you all jump on me, I'm still going to buy this game!. In fact, it's probably all I'm going to be playing. I just can't stand when a good point is presented and then people just ride in on the Bungie Bandwagon and start hating on them.

*Note* - Only one person has replied to my posts (I think). He has been intelligent. All of the other bungie fanboys have skipped over my posts because, and I'm only speculating here, they don't have long enough attention spans.


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  • 06.18.2009 1:58 AM PDT
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Umm well it's just a game. I mean taking away jacking vehicles would be annoying. And also the turrent feature is good for killing enemies.

  • 06.18.2009 2:05 AM PDT

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  • 06.18.2009 2:42 AM PDT

Posted by: Crunchy_Shadow
And don't just reply "Don't use it if you don't like it". It's an issue relating to the basic laws of physics. No matter what you say, an ODST being able to move faster than a Spartan while holding a turret is stupid and makes no sense.

And you're saying the zero-gee environment you were in when you left Cairo station at the beginning of Halo 2 made sense when you managed to fall downwards instead of upwards?
And you're also saying that 10,000 degrees of white hot plasma touching your armor and not leaving a scratch makes sense?
As well as flipping a Scorpion Tank making sense?
Oh and that Spartans can fall miles from the air and get right back to moving. That makes sense, too.

Sometimes, some minor physics need to be sacrificed so gameplay can run smoothly.
If you really want to pick at differences that don't make sense with the Haloverse, then ask why you get to fight Covenant as Johnson in New Mombasa when he should be on Delta Halo, prepping to kill Regret.

Also, how are going to expect people not to say "then dunts yooz it!"

  • 06.18.2009 2:45 AM PDT

What's hot, sexy and purple?

Ayane (and the Wraith :-D)

1.) The game is called "Halo 3 ODST" <<< there is still a "3" in the name

2.) It's an ADD ON for the original game

3.) An add-on is not there to cut ALL elements the original game has. This is why we (still) can:

- use new Halo 3 weapons like the gravity hammer
- board vehicels (as far as I know you can only use grenades here)
- carry turrets

and any other unlogical Spartan vs ODST stuff

We can move faster with turrets because the player in Halo 3 ODST has not that much health like a spartan from Halo 3. It would make absolutely no sense to use the "press B to blah blah the turret" feature if we were as slow as a spartan in Halo 3s campaign/multiplayer. And using a turret and break trough enemies lines is just goddamn fun in Firefight, believe me.

And It would also make no sense to cut everything from the original game which made Halo 3 so special.


Some people here really want a game that's hyper realistic, super logic and not near as fun as Halo 3 was. ODSTs are nothing more than "spartans" without shields and black armor in terms of gameplay. Of course in the world of Halo these guys are no super humans and we all know this. Masterchief will be the true Hero in the game altough we will kill thousands of Brutes and Grunts as an ODST, a -blam!- normal human.

But.......who cares?

Bungie already did some little/big changes to give Halo 3 ODST a noticeable difference, the weapons, the health system, the new VISR, an open world, the new map.

And this should be enough.



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  • 06.18.2009 2:54 AM PDT

Posted by: Cory Gaelic
i personaly think that IF an odst can carry a turret then the animation for ripping it off should be different
ie;an odst should not just rip it off like a spartan but he should maby kick it off and then lift it up or he should place a grenade under it and then pick it up but they shouldn't be able to jump
or they should only be able to barley jump


Woot, an intelligent answer, give the man a medal.

I like this idea that ODST's can move the turrets around but are virtually crippled under it's weight. Perhaps it would be nice if the ODST's could fire OR move. But not both at the same time.
Posted by: DarkPrimordus
My opinion is maybe Bungie doesnt want the game to be hella hard I mean really do you want a noob to play this and have its ass kicked.

That would be quite funny to watch actually. lol.

On a sensible note the covenant on easy will most likely be a push over as always. Even an uber-noob can take on easy covenant without a turret. Hell I can take most of the levels on easy without swapping from my AR.

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  • 06.18.2009 3:28 AM PDT

I wish I was still legendary.

Gravity hammer warps gravity, so of course an ODST could hold it.

Turrets, as far as we know, are only usable in non-canon FireFight.

He boarded the wraith...in Firefight, not Campaign. No proof it can be done in campaign,as with turrets.

  • 06.18.2009 3:41 AM PDT