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Posted by: Skiracer93
yeah but between halo 1 and 2 the chief went to Reach to rescue Dr Halsey and the AI's. Also they're on the cover for gods sake. Of course you're going to play as them![/quote]
See MLG Cheehwawa, I'm not the only one who believes this. Your theory is just as good as ours. Our logic thinking that the game will be about the book FoR is not flawed. Also the banner is Sam, Kelly, Linda, Fred, and John so get over the fact that your wrong.

JCTehPro and anyone else, don't even bother fighting with this guy. I have tried and its and un-winnable war.
My theory is backed up by evidence (the trailer), while yours is not. That makes my theory better than yours.

  • 06.18.2009 10:20 AM PDT

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Posted by: Skiracer93
Actually Cortana has a "Sister". Also there are other spartans alive after Halo: CE. One I believe is Linda, or the one put in the cryo tube. Between Halo 1&2 MC goes back to Reach and rescues the rest of the Spartans and Dr. Hasley who survived.


Dr. Halsey, not Hasley.

nope, its Hasley. Look in the book and here.

  • 06.18.2009 10:23 AM PDT

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Actually Cortana has a "Sister". Also there are other spartans alive after Halo: CE. One I believe is Linda, or the one put in the cryo tube. Between Halo 1&2 MC goes back to Reach and rescues the rest of the Spartans and Dr. Hasley who survived.


Dr. Halsey, not Hasley.

nope, its Hasley. Look in the book and here.
Pick up an actual copy of the book, it's "Halsey." As in "Halsey" and not "Hasley."

Wow... I don't even think you read TFoR. You base your "theory" about the banner solely off of Halopedia. That explains a lot.

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  • 06.18.2009 10:24 AM PDT

Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: Skiracer93
yeah but between halo 1 and 2 the chief went to Reach to rescue Dr Halsey and the AI's. Also they're on the cover for gods sake. Of course you're going to play as them![/quote]
See MLG Cheehwawa, I'm not the only one who believes this. Your theory is just as good as ours. Our logic thinking that the game will be about the book FoR is not flawed. Also the banner is Sam, Kelly, Linda, Fred, and John so get over the fact that your wrong.

JCTehPro and anyone else, don't even bother fighting with this guy. I have tried and its and un-winnable war.
My theory is backed up by evidence (the trailer), while yours is not. That makes my theory better than yours.

NOT TRUE!!!! The only thing the trailer proves is that at some point in the game you will see the fall of Reach. THATS IT. It doesn't prove that you will fight on Reach or anything else. Unless it was actual gameplay then a cutscene reveals nothing. The fight here is wether or not this happens at the beg or end of the game.

Besides my theory has more proof because the banner is Sam, John, Kelly, Linda, and Fred. You are just to ignorant to believe it. The only way that could happen is if the game starts from the beg of Fall of Reach.

  • 06.18.2009 10:27 AM PDT

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Posted by: Skiracer93
NOT TRUE!!!! The only thing the trailer proves is that at some point in the game you will see the fall of Reach. THATS IT. It doesn't prove that you will fight on Reach or anything else. Unless it was actual gameplay then a cutscene reveals nothing. The fight here is wether or not this happens at the beg or end of the game.

[quote]Besides my theory has more proof because the banner is Sam, John, Kelly, Linda, and Fred. You are just to ignorant to believe it. The only way that could happen is if the game starts from the beg of Fall of Reach.
1. It's not John because he's not wearing the armor John wears.

2. How could you tell who is who in that banner?

3. How do you explain S-259 and -320 taking more prominent roles in the trailer than John, Fred, Kelly, Linda, or Sam?

4. If the game was about Halo: The Fall of Reach, the gameplay would be inconsistent (going from a 6 year old pushing kids around on a grassy hill to a 7ft tall armored super soldier fighting 10,000 Grunts?) and the story would not allow us to get close to any of the characters (i.e. Sam would die in the first or second mission, who would even care?)

5. If the trailer shows the fall of the planet Reach, it's most likely that's what the game was about. You wouldn't see the Halo 3 trailer and assume that that's the very end of the game, but in the beginning you play as ODSTs, a Grunt, and Johnson, would you?

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  • 06.18.2009 10:31 AM PDT

Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: Skiracer93
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Posted by: Skiracer93
Actually Cortana has a "Sister". Also there are other spartans alive after Halo: CE. One I believe is Linda, or the one put in the cryo tube. Between Halo 1&2 MC goes back to Reach and rescues the rest of the Spartans and Dr. Hasley who survived.


Dr. Halsey, not Hasley.

nope, its Hasley. Look in the book and here.
Pick up an actual copy of the book, it's "Halsey." As in "Halsey" and not "Hasley."

Wow... I don't even think you read TFoR. You base your "theory" about the banner solely off of Halopedia. That explains a lot.

Nope, i've read the book. I just used halopedia as worded proof because unless i photocopy the book i cant prove it.

Why does Dr. Hasley pick John? She has a coin from our time period. She tells John that if he can guess the correct side it lands on he can keep the coin. She flips the coin and he guesses eagle and is right so he keeps the coin. Late on in the book when Mendez leaves them to train the next batch of spartans he gives the coin back to John.

I read the book, would you like me to explain anymore details?

Your right, Halopedia has it wrong because if you go to Fall of Reach and characters they have it Hasley. But who really cares, just a wrong in spelling.

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  • 06.18.2009 10:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: Skiracer93
Nope, i've read the book. I just used halopedia as worded proof because unless i photocopy the book i cant prove it.

Why does Dr. Hasley pick John? She has a coin from our time period. She tells John that if he can guess the correct side it lands on he can keep the coin. She flips the coin and he guesses eagle and is right so he keeps the coin. Late on in the book when Mendez leaves them to train the next batch of spartans he gives the coin back to John.

I read the book, would you like me to explain anymore details?
I would rather you open up your copy of Halo: The Fall of Reach, Ghosts of Onyx, or even Halsey's page on Halopedia (or Wikipedia) and recognize that it is spelled Halsey, not Hasley.

  • 06.18.2009 10:32 AM PDT

Peoplez let's stop fighting let's just face it there are no flood on Reach.
People keep talking about FoR but if you read it properly you will notice something...
THERE ARE NO FRIGGING FLOODSIES AROUND.... and even when they come back after Halo CE in the book The First Strike...guess what.... NO FLOOD! so there won't be flood in Reach because there aren't any.
And about Cortana... Cortana was there on the POA but in the ship herself and not on the planet...
There could be another AI but not Cortana's sister since she doesn't get out of the ONI Castle base.
SO there can be a AI that helps but there will certainly be NO flood since they aren't on Reach at all!

  • 06.18.2009 10:34 AM PDT
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And about Cortana... Cortana was there on the POA but in the ship herself and not on the planet...
There could be another AI but not Cortana's sister since she doesn't get out of the ONI Castle base.
SO there can be a AI that helps but there will certainly be NO flood since they aren't on Reach at all!


once again, by cortana equivalent i did not mean another AI but another level equally as bad as the penultimate level to halo 3's campaign. and although some people may like it, personally i can complete it, as i have on legendary, but it's just not fun and, quite frankly, is flawed as a game which is fun the rest of the time

  • 06.18.2009 10:45 AM PDT

There most likely will be someone close to the spartans, such as Halsey or Mendez. Though that would depend on when you think the game will take place. As far as the flood I bet Bungie will think of something such as huge swarms of grunts.

  • 06.18.2009 10:50 AM PDT

Posted by: JCTehPro
And about Cortana... Cortana was there on the POA but in the ship herself and not on the planet...
There could be another AI but not Cortana's sister since she doesn't get out of the ONI Castle base.
SO there can be a AI that helps but there will certainly be NO flood since they aren't on Reach at all!


once again, by cortana equivalent i did not mean another AI but another level equally as bad as the penultimate level to halo 3's campaign. and although some people may like it, personally i can complete it, as i have on legendary, but it's just not fun and, quite frankly, is flawed as a game which is fun the rest of the time


Ahh misunderstood that but anyways it's surely entertaining and tbh it's not flawed it's difficult and most people(seems like you too) thinks it's flawed because it's difficult.
but no it's Difficult and if you find this difficult go try Call of Duty World at War on Veteran...on that game almost every lv is a pain in the @ss

  • 06.18.2009 10:50 AM PDT

It is Halsey. I doubt that Sam is the guy on the left. At no point in time did he have that different looking armor. All the Spartan armor at this point is the same. I could see a modified armor such as when Halsey upgraded the armor of Vinh, Will, Kelly, Fred and Isaac. Speaking of which, why can't any of the people be one of them or the Spartans that were with the Admiral guy, like Grace?

  • 06.18.2009 10:53 AM PDT

Sam is dead long before Reach so it can't be Sam :)

  • 06.18.2009 10:54 AM PDT

Wootness.

there may have been flood in halo wars, but the creators may have not taken that factor into the game when they made it. ALSO

the flood may have been around a long time, but in CE, we were just following the story of Spartan 117 (Master Chief) and he hadn't discovered it til CE.

  • 06.18.2009 10:57 AM PDT
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Posted by: Chubby Belly
there may have been flood in halo wars, but the creators may have not taken that factor into the game when they made it. ALSO

the flood may have been around a long time, but in CE, we were just following the story of Spartan 117 (Master Chief) and he hadn't discovered it til CE.


yes, but he was with the marines and a head officer (Sgt. Johnson) of the UNSC. i agree that the flood were around way before CE (this is obvious as the whole point of the Halo rings was as a last resort against the flood which happened ages and ages ago) but the fact that this game is likely to take place before CE means that the flood wont be on Reach and we wont have to fight them.

quite frankly the level cortana is boring and although some may like it because it is a challenge, i hate it because it isnt even fun. whereas levels like the ark are long, challenging and fun, cortana is boring. B O R I N G ! ! !

  • 06.18.2009 11:18 AM PDT

Posted by: JCTehPro
Posted by: Chubby Belly
there may have been flood in halo wars, but the creators may have not taken that factor into the game when they made it. ALSO

the flood may have been around a long time, but in CE, we were just following the story of Spartan 117 (Master Chief) and he hadn't discovered it til CE.


yes, but he was with the marines and a head officer (Sgt. Johnson) of the UNSC. i agree that the flood were around way before CE (this is obvious as the whole point of the Halo rings was as a last resort against the flood which happened ages and ages ago) but the fact that this game is likely to take place before CE means that the flood wont be on Reach and we wont have to fight them.

quite frankly the level cortana is boring and although some may like it because it is a challenge, i hate it because it isnt even fun. whereas levels like the ark are long, challenging and fun, cortana is boring. B O R I N G ! ! !


Lal Ark=Tank/Vehicle lv it's so easy and Cortana is "hard" which means you don't like hard lv's and only like the easy.... play like a chicken without head... lv's

  • 06.18.2009 11:20 AM PDT

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Depending on who the main characters are, and where they end up at the end of the game, there could still be Flood in. Flood were in HW because the only humans who encountered them were aboard the SoF, and they are lost in space with no way of communicating with the UNSC... thus they were a surprise in Halo 1. There could have been Flood on (or rather, in) Reach, just never encountered by Team Alpha, Team Gamma, or Team Delta (the Spartans here)... or any other humans who survived to tell about it.

  • 06.18.2009 11:21 AM PDT
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Lal Ark=Tank/Vehicle lv it's so easy and Cortana is "hard" which means you don't like hard lv's and only like the easy.... play like a chicken without head... lv's

i do like hard levels.

i dont like boring levels

spot the difference...

  • 06.18.2009 11:26 AM PDT

What difference Cortana is an hard lv where you have to be alert at all times! not boring quite the contrary it's annoying but a challenge is fun

  • 06.18.2009 11:32 AM PDT
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that just goes to prove that different people have different opinions.

lets leave it at that

  • 06.18.2009 11:53 AM PDT

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Halo wars takes place before Halo CE and there was Flood in that?


Yea but because they were stranded they couldn't get a message back about them.

  • 06.18.2009 11:57 AM PDT

I used to really hate Cortana (level) and I still do because I hate Cortana (AI). But I recognize the challenge of it, and the good storytelling potential. If some don't like it, that is fine. I really dislike most Flood levels, because they represent the kind of game I dislike: those that have no real challenge to the enemies. But Cortana had that, so yeah, I would not mind a level like that in Reach, but with Covenant.

  • 06.18.2009 11:59 AM PDT
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Posted by: Justice One Duo
I used to really hate Cortana (level) and I still do because I hate Cortana (AI). But I recognize the challenge of it, and the good storytelling potential. If some don't like it, that is fine. I really dislike most Flood levels, because they represent the kind of game I dislike: those that have no real challenge to the enemies. But Cortana had that, so yeah, I would not mind a level like that in Reach, but with Covenant.


that was what i was trying to say, i would prefer a hard level that is still fun and does not include the flood, like the ark in Halo 3, which is almost impossible to complete on solo mythic without dying once. another level like that which is more challenging while still being fun is welcome in any halo game i play

  • 06.18.2009 12:02 PM PDT

Let's just bury the waraxe..
we can safely say that some people have other tastes and that's that :)
even though I've argued alot we can safely say that we all like different things and sometimes we like similiar things but in this case our opinions are divided and that's that

  • 06.18.2009 12:06 PM PDT
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Posted by: Crusader
Let's just bury the waraxe..
we can safely say that some people have other tastes and that's that :)
even though I've argued alot we can safely say that we all like different things and sometimes we like similiar things but in this case our opinions are divided and that's that


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  • 06.18.2009 12:27 PM PDT