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Subject: My theory of Blood Gulch being in Halo: Reach! SHORT READ!
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Okay I was going to make a long post, but I have to hurry this up. To get to my point, Blood Gulch was not in Halo 3 and will never be in Halo 3... right? Midship is in Halo 3 because... some people demanded it, but not as much as people demanded for Blood Gulch, am I right? So why did we get Midship and not Blood Gulch? Here is why? Bungie knew that Blood Gulch was going to be terrible in Halo 3, why? Because of the engine... It is now going to be in Halo: Reach in my theory because Halo: Reach will have a better graphics engine and it is a separate game. Is anyone with me? Sorry there is no proof to back up my theory it is just I don't have time.

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  • 06.17.2009 10:57 AM PDT
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  • 06.17.2009 11:04 AM PDT

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I wish Blood Gultch was in Halo 3.
With being able to forge it and having the improved graphics (from Halo 2) it would be awesome!
We could customize, get out of the map, ect...
My point is Blood gultch is the best map ever!

  • 06.17.2009 11:11 AM PDT

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Blood Gulch was home

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Posted by: Boba772
My point is Blood gulch is the best map ever!
Yes, the community knows that, but why didn't get into Halo 3? Because it is going to be in Halo: Reach.

  • 06.17.2009 11:13 AM PDT

Im more of smaller map type of person, but back in the lan days with my friends playing 8 on 8 on Blood Gulch was just sick. I really do miss that map..

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Blood Gulch was the best! Now that I read your post, I'm excited for Blood Gulch now! GO BLOOD GULCH!

  • 06.17.2009 11:27 AM PDT

Blood Gulch is in Halo 3. Its called Vahalla. Bungie just tweaked it so it would be the same old boring blood gulch game after game... And I'm not sure why you think Midship is in Halo 3 unless your talking about Assembly because of its similar design and graphics.

  • 06.17.2009 11:36 AM PDT

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This is not a theory.

I would like BG back if the gameplay feels more like Halo 1 than Halo 2 and Halo 3 (aka Halo 2.5).

  • 06.17.2009 11:37 AM PDT

I hunt for the Prophet of Contentment, the San 'Shyumm that murdered my son, and stole his birthright, his Energy Sword. They call our species Heretics. They claim to all that our tongues sting, our words a vile poison that feeds on the unworthy. I have seen the true face of Heresy. The head of a gallant warrior lay on the ground. His neck scorched and blistered, scarred by his own blade. I shall retrieve the weapon, and drive it through that bastard's heart! Punishment for his sins is nigh.

Heretic is confirmed as Midship.

And Valhalla sucks compared to Blood Gulch, there are alot of major differences (including the fact that Valhalla is TINY compared to BG.

  • 06.17.2009 11:50 AM PDT

Armor Lock isn't overpowered. You just suck at Reach :)

Reach isn't bad, you're just a BK :)

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Here is the thing though....

Bungie remade blood gulch/coag into valhalla for Halo 3.

They never made a remake for midship.

People started asking about midship.

Bungie decided to make a remake on midship.

People continued to ask about blood gulch.

Bungie already made us valhalla, so they arent going to make ANOTHER remake.

Makes sense to me. Im fine with what we already have. I highly doubt that after spending their time making valhalla, that bungie is going to make a 2nd remake, just because some fans are picky.

  • 06.17.2009 11:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: NuclearNutsack
Blood Gulch is in Halo 3. Its called Vahalla. Bungie just tweaked it so it would be the same old boring blood gulch game after game... And I'm not sure why you think Midship is in Halo 3 unless your talking about Assembly because of its similar design and graphics.


He may think Midship is in H3 because of Heretic.

Heretic's Halopedia Article

It says in the article that Heretic is going to be a remake/reimagination of Midship.

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Posted by: IIGhoulishtieII
Here is the thing though....

Bungie remade blood gulch/coag into valhalla for Halo 3.

They never made a remake for midship.

People started asking about midship.

Bungie decided to make a remake on midship.

People continued to ask about blood gulch.

Bungie already made us valhalla, so they arent going to make ANOTHER remake.

Makes sense to me. Im fine with what we already have. I highly doubt that after spending their time making valhalla, that bungie is going to make a 2nd remake, just because some fans are picky.

1. Valhalla is a spiritual successor not a remake!
2. They did.
3. Not as many people asked for Blood Gulch.
4. They already did...
5. They asked for a while.
6. They really didn't...

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Posted by: NuclearNutsack
Blood Gulch is in Halo 3. Its called Vahalla. Bungie just tweaked it so it would be the same old boring blood gulch game after game... And I'm not sure why you think Midship is in Halo 3 unless your talking about Assembly because of its similar design and graphics.

1. Spiritual Successor.
2. Midship is called Heretic.

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Posted by: IIGhoulishtieII
Here is the thing though....

Bungie remade blood gulch/coag into valhalla for Halo 3.
No, that's a spiritual successor. Big difference.

Spiritual Successors
Valhalla:Blood Gulch
Avalanche:Sidewinder
Guardian:Lockout
High Ground:Zanzibar

Remakes
Cold Storage:Chill Out
Blackout: Lockout
Last Resort:Zanzibar

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  • 06.17.2009 1:34 PM PDT

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My theory for why BG wil be in Reach is because Bungie screwed up by not putting it in H3. Then they dug the whole deeper by letting Luke act arrogant about the fact that it would never be made. When you back yourself into that kind of corner you either admit your mistake and come into the light or you crawl up into a ball and pretend you didn't screw up.

I have faith in Bungie that they have enough character to admit their mistakes.

  • 06.17.2009 1:50 PM PDT
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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
No, that's a spiritual successor. Big difference.

Spiritual Successors
Valhalla:Blood Gulch
Avalanche:Sidewinder
Guardian:Lockout
High Ground:Zanzibar

Remakes
Cold Storage:Chill Out
Blackout: Lockout
Last Resort:Zanzibar


You are wrong with a few of those. This is how it should look:

Spiritual Successors
Guardian ~ Lockout
Valhalla ~ Blood Gulch/Coagulation
Narrows ~ Gephyrophobia(Halo PC)

Remakes
Last Resort ~ Zanzibar
Avalanche ~ Sidewinder
Blackout ~ Lockout
Cold Storage ~ Chill Out
Heretic ~ Midship

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Posted by: Tonoottu
#1 more people want midship more than blood gulch. since mlg wannabes and the real mlg community and then theres alot of people that just dont like blood gulch (like me its a bk map we have sanddtrap and valhalla now)
#2 if the engine in halo 3 isnt enough how come its good enough in H1?
1. MLG is for competitive gamers and not true Halo fans. The MLG doesn't care what Bungie does.
2. The community want MORE!

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Posted by: Falconx03
You are wrong with a few of those. This is how it should look:

Spiritual Successors
Guardian ~ Lockout
Valhalla ~ Blood Gulch/Coagulation
Narrows ~ Gephyrophobia(Halo PC)

Remakes
Last Resort ~ Zanzibar
Avalanche ~ Sidewinder
Blackout ~ Lockout
Cold Storage ~ Chill Out
Heretic ~ Midship


Avalanche is different to Sidewinder.

Last Resort is also a little bit different to Zanzibar.

  • 06.17.2009 3:21 PM PDT
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I always thought it was because they already had a map that was similar enough - Valhalla and Standoff. Yes, I know they encourage different tactics

As well as this, wide open maps with nothing in the middle doesn't work in Halo 3 and frankly people have moved on from that to more complex and tactic-based maps. People will just need a remake to actually realise they have (and even then they'll quickly shift the blame to Bungie making a shoddy remake - which would be funny actually, because it's accusing them of not making a blank, open map properly...=/)

Also, we don't even know if Reach will use a whole new engine. Hopefully they will, but frankly there hasn't been word of a new graphics engine yet and there is a good chance that they'll be using the same one as in Halo 3 (although slightly upgraded and fine-tuned of course).
The physics engine WILL be the same though, if Bungie plan on keeping the same feel of Halo with Reach. The physics engine is the main decider of how the game feels.
Halo has a light feel with plenty of flexibility (which is why it's so easy to manoeuvre yourself, you feel really light when jumping, and how Bungie can give you so many options for customisation in Forge and Custom Games.

Take GTA IV for example - it feels so different to the GTA's on PS2 because they used a totally new and different physics engine (Euphoria engine), so the light feel and robotically free movements when running/driving were exchanged for a more weighty, realistic and fluid feeling of movement.

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Posted by: Falconx03
You are wrong with a few of those. This is how it should look:

Spiritual Successors
Guardian ~ Lockout
Valhalla ~ Blood Gulch/Coagulation
Narrows ~ Gephyrophobia(Halo PC)

Remakes
Last Resort ~ Zanzibar
Avalanche ~ Sidewinder
Blackout ~ Lockout
Cold Storage ~ Chill Out
Heretic ~ Midship
Avalanche is a SSbecause it's extremely different from Sidewinder (you disagree, you didn't play Sidewinder)... and Narrows isn't anything like Gephyrophobia. Geph. is a massive map with side bases and banshees...

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This isn't a theory.

I share the desires of other BG enthusiasts, though.

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