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Subject: Reach is Halo 3 Legendary planet *Version 2.0*

Monkey see, Monkey shoot.

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This made me laugh, either it is a really good strawman articale or if it is serious I have a few things to nigle at.

Simple quoting time travel theorums from Wkipedia and such does not prove your article.

There is more then one frigate in the Halo reach vid and that one you are focusing on has been sliced.

Please tell me this is a joke^^ Internet humour is so hard to get across without facial expressions.


Ah not a joke thread but a strawman thread then, take your oponents argument and make your own version of it emphisising on the weaknesses, nicely done.

[Edited on 06.17.2009 3:52 PM PDT]

  • 06.17.2009 3:51 PM PDT

Posted by: Dream053
Posted by: SnakesOnABanshee
Yea I agree with you that this is probably a joke thread.

No "probably" about it. It's not just a joke thread. It's a thread to illustrate why time travel theories, and "Reach = Halo 3 Legendary Planetoid" theories are absolutely ridiculous.

Why are they so rediculous?

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Yea I agree with you that this is probably a joke thread.

No "probably" about it. It's not just a joke thread. It's a thread to illustrate why time travel theories, and "Reach = Halo 3 Legendary Planetoid" theories are absolutely ridiculous.

Why are they so rediculous?

Re-read the OP of this thread. It does a pretty good job of explaining why they're ridiculous.

[Edited on 06.17.2009 4:04 PM PDT]

  • 06.17.2009 3:59 PM PDT

Monkey see, Monkey shoot.

Terry Pratchet - The Best.

That and most other anti time travel thread.

  • 06.17.2009 4:02 PM PDT

Posted by: Dream053
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Posted by: Dream053
Posted by: SnakesOnABanshee
Yea I agree with you that this is probably a joke thread.

No "probably" about it. It's not just a joke thread. It's a thread to illustrate why time travel theories, and "Reach = Halo 3 Legendary Planetoid" theories are absolutely ridiculous.

Why are they so rediculous?

Re-read the OP of this thread. It does a pretty good job of explaining why they're ridiculous.

No it doesn't. It just makes it sound like a time travel theorist is completly retarded without giving any reason why it's so stupid. I could do the same with any other theory but would rather not waste my time.

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Another good example is Mercury and Earth!

  • 06.17.2009 4:04 PM PDT

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I can't believe people who think this is serious... Did they even read the post?

[Edited on 06.17.2009 4:08 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Dream053
Re-read the OP of this thread. It does a pretty good job of explaining why they're ridiculous.

No it doesn't. It just makes it sound like a time travel theorist is completly retarded without giving any reason why it's so stupid. I could do the same with any other theory but would rather not waste my time.

Yes, it does. But since you can't be bothered to discern such on your own, I'll sum it up for you:

The Reach = Legendary Planetoid theories, and the time travel theories especially are based on the assumption that the other is true, and so they go hand in hand. Both are founded off of unprecedented speculative musings that are borderline pareidolia, and have no proper foundations to bring cause for consideration. The image comparisons are not only ridiculous because they do not match in any form aside from shape and horizon lighting (a point expressed in the OP), but also because the images themselves aren't even reliable given what limited lighting we do have. However, from what we do have, they do not match whatsoever.

Couple this with the fact that the game has been officially called a "prequel" and not a "sequel", it should be obvious that time travel is not involved with Reach. If Master Chief and Cortana traveled back in time to Reach, and this game was focused on that, it would not be a prequel, it would be a sequel as it is the next series of events to occur in their non-chronological timelines.

Furthermore, Bungie has expressed long ago that time travel has no place in the Halo universe.

There are other reasons why they are stupid theories, but honestly, that is more than enough.

Crackpot theories deserve no serious consideration, and that's exactly what they are.

[Edited on 06.17.2009 4:09 PM PDT]

  • 06.17.2009 4:08 PM PDT

Posted by: Dream053
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Posted by: Dream053
Re-read the OP of this thread. It does a pretty good job of explaining why they're ridiculous.

No it doesn't. It just makes it sound like a time travel theorist is completly retarded without giving any reason why it's so stupid. I could do the same with any other theory but would rather not waste my time.

Yes, it does. But since you can't be bothered to discern such on your own, I'll sum it up for you:

The Reach = Legendary Planetoid theories, and the time travel theories especially are based on the assumption that the other is true, and so they go hand in hand. Both are founded off of unprecedented speculative musings that are borderline pareidolia, and have no proper foundations to bring cause for consideration. The image comparisons are not only ridiculous because they do not match in any form aside from shape and horizon lighting (a point expressed in the OP), but also because the images themselves aren't even reliable given what limited lighting we do have. However, from what we do have, they do not match whatsoever.

Couple this with the fact that the game has been officially called a "prequel" and not a "sequel", it should be obvious that time travel is not involved with Reach. If Master Chief and Cortana traveled back in time to Reach, and this game was focused on that, it would not be a prequel, it would be a sequel as it is the next series of events to occur in their non-chronological timelines.

Furthermore, Bungie has expressed long ago that time travel has no place in the Halo universe.

There are other reasons why they are stupid theories, but honestly, that is more than enough.

Crackpot theories deserve no serious consideration, and that's exactly what they are.

Planets do look similar

prequel n. A literary, dramatic, or cinematic work whose narrative takes place before that of a preexisting work or a sequel.

In the FS Dr. Halsey said time travel was possible through slipstream space.

As you can see I'm getting tired of arguing with people who don't know what they're talking about.

  • 06.17.2009 4:14 PM PDT

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Reach isn't bad, you're just a BK :)

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They are not the same.

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Posted by: SnakesOnABanshee
Planets do look similar

Of course planets look similar, but their spherical shape doesn't give anyone credibility enough to go about claiming that two completely separate planets are one and the same, especially when their surfaces do not match up whatsoever. What a terrible counter-statement. As I said, the OP deals with this directly, giving a perfect example of the folly in such an argument.

prequel n. A literary, dramatic, or cinematic work whose narrative takes place before that of a preexisting work or a sequel.
Do not cite dictionary definitions, especially when they only further my point and not your own.

In the FS Dr. Halsey said time travel was possible through slipstream space.
There are two instances in which Dr. Halsey discusses the bending of spacetime, and in neither does she ever mention time travel. Cite the page please so I can point out your misinterpretation directly.

As you can see I'm getting tired of arguing with people who don't know what they're talking about.

Believe me, I'm feeling the exact same way in trying to explain something so incredibly simple to you.

[Edited on 06.17.2009 4:22 PM PDT]

  • 06.17.2009 4:19 PM PDT

I'm just getting tired of this. No one has provided any plausible proof it's not time travel.

  • 06.17.2009 4:22 PM PDT

The only way this would work is if mastercheif landed on the planet walked around having flashbacks which would be an awsome story board but probably not going to happen

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I'm just getting tired of this. No one has provided any plausible proof it's not time travel.

Proof would not be "plausible", as it would be proof. I think you're looking for the word "evidence". Also, yes, there are mounds of plausible evidence that refutes the idea of time travel all over this forum.

And to that end, as many have pointed out to you and every other time travel enthusiast on this forum, the entire theory is based on blind speculation and pareidolia, which means that it has absolutely no evidence at all.

Go ahead, completely ignore the clear-cut bunch I've included in my response if you feel it necessary to cling to such a stupid theory, your loss.

  • 06.17.2009 4:24 PM PDT

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Go ahead, completely ignore the clear-cut bunch I've included in my response if you feel it necessary to cling to such a stupid theory, your loss.

I would never do that. Then I would be doing what you're doing.

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Go ahead, completely ignore the clear-cut bunch I've included in my response if you feel it necessary to cling to such a stupid theory, your loss.

I would never do that. Then I would be doing what you're doing.

If you can't have a civil, intelligent discussion regarding the merit of theories whether you support them or not, then you may as well not post here at all. You have provided no evidence to argue in favor of time travel theory. I have provided ample evidence to argue to the contrary.

Do you understand how this works? We don't discuss things and then stomp our feet and play the "No you" game when we realize we might not be right. This is a place to discover the truth, not to win an argument. If you're not going to contribute to that effort, then do not bother posting.

  • 06.17.2009 4:31 PM PDT

You want proof that this is a true prequel and not a sequel following Master Cheif and Cortana as they go back in time for some reason? Bungie said that there will be no more games with Master Chief... Case in point, not a sequel... no time travel... sorry ladies.

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You want proof that this is a true prequel and not a sequel following Master Cheif and Cortana as they go back in time for some reason? Bungie said that there will be no more games with Master Chief... Case in point, not a sequel... no time travel... sorry ladies.

No they have not. Bungie said the trilogy was over, and that's all. That doesn't mean the characters won't be featured in new titles with new plot devices to overcome.

Frank O'Connor confirmed at Emerald City that they were most certainly not done with Master Chief's and Cortana's stories.

  • 06.17.2009 5:16 PM PDT

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Go ahead, completely ignore the clear-cut bunch I've included in my response if you feel it necessary to cling to such a stupid theory, your loss.

I would never do that. Then I would be doing what you're doing.

If you can't have a civil, intelligent discussion regarding the merit of theories whether you support them or not, then you may as well not post here at all. You have provided no evidence to argue in favor of time travel theory. I have provided ample evidence to argue to the contrary.

Do you understand how this works? We don't discuss things and then stomp our feet and play the "No you" game when we realize we might not be right. This is a place to discover the truth, not to win an argument. If you're not going to contribute to that effort, then do not bother posting.

There you go again. If you keep contradicting yourself it could be a new record.

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There you go again. If you keep contradicting yourself it could be a new record.

This is not a proper argument. Please post one.

  • 06.17.2009 5:36 PM PDT

Posted by: Dream053
Posted by: SnakesOnABanshee
There you go again. If you keep contradicting yourself it could be a new record.

This is not a proper argument. Please post one.

I already did? And you didn't understand it so I can't really argue with you if keep contradicting yourself.

  • 06.17.2009 5:46 PM PDT

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I can't believe people who think this is serious... Did they even read the post?


That's the best part, it's hilarious how many people think he's serious

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There you go again. If you keep contradicting yourself it could be a new record.

This is not a proper argument. Please post one.

I already did? And you didn't understand it so I can't really argue with you if keep contradicting yourself.

No you did not. Do you honestly think that "Planets look similar" is a compelling argument? I'm still waiting for you to cite where Dr. Halsey ever mentioned time travel versus the bending of spacetime from First Strike, and lastly you cited the definition of "prequel" which only hurt your pseudo-idea even more.

Other than that, you pointed out inconsistencies with the OP, and said "Seriously I don't know why people don't like time travel. It actually makes sense in this case", which, in case you didn't know, is not a compelling argument at all.

Also, please stop misusing the English language in a lame (and unsuccessful) attempt to defame my credibility. There are no contradictions on my end, only your own.

Please think before you type. You're turning what is supposed to be a collaborative discussion into a petty, personal qualm apparently sprouted from the fact that I disagreed with you. If you feel the need to continue, send me a private message. You have continued to steer this horribly off-topic despite my attempts to turn you back toward the actual discussion. Lest your next response be appropriately geared toward the topic of this thread, I will no longer spend minutes trying to hammer common sense into you.

[Edited on 06.17.2009 6:10 PM PDT]

  • 06.17.2009 5:59 PM PDT

You didn't even understand why I put the definition there. I thought you would figure it out but you didn't. That and you seem to be getting angry at me for disagreeing with you. I'm sorry I made you mad and said you were contradicting yourself but there really is no reason to type out a huge response. I have simply figured out that I can't reason with you and there is no point in proving my point anymore.

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