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Subject: does anyone else hope ODST completely bombs?

lolwut?

Posted by: The_omen
Even though I will buy the game, and hope that many people do, I have to agree with OP.

Bungie.net only holds a fraction of the whole Halo population, meaning that whatever goes around in here goes unnoticed by a big percentage of the people that bought Halo 3. rhis is important because look: When we (we as in people at bungie.net) heard the news that ODST was 60$ we were immediatly shocked, not knowing what to think. So then we headed to the forums wondering what the hell was going on. Microsoft explained that the game had the mighty great Firefight and had lots of maps which accounted for its overpricing. Bungie then told us (what they always tell us) "Microsoft owns us" and most of us just dropped the fact that the game was being overpriced.

However, all those (non-bungie.net) people that have no clue why MS/Bungie is overpricing the game will most likely not buy it at all. Why? Because we're in a time called "Economic Crisis" (which gave the Gaming Biz a pretty hard uppercut). This "economic crisis" mostly affects 20+ year olds but lets be real here.. Halo's average age demographic is not 20+...

ODST won't do as well as other titles. That's a fact.


Yet, people don't understand this is PURE opinion.

  • 06.18.2009 2:18 AM PDT

Posted by: pens win teh CUP
Posted by: Zekkalkan
That won't teach Micro$oft a lesson.
Did overselling the 360 without properly building it, leaving 20% of consoles to get the RROD and costing a dip in their profit margin of $1.15 billion teach them?


yes

theyre not going to do that again

I don't know. When Bungie stated there'd be no more Halo games from them, Micro$oft already began assembling a team for a Halo 4. And when they saw ODST at what Bungie said was a $40 game, Micro$oft recalled the selling numbers from Halo 3's release and jacked the price up. If it does sell badly, then my earlier statement is proven true.

And to the guy who earlier said neither Bungie or M$ decide the price, Bungie doesn't. M$ does.

  • 06.18.2009 2:18 AM PDT

wow.... your a tool

  • 06.18.2009 2:24 AM PDT
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ROBOHOG IS VERY BRILLIANT AND STUFF.

Don't care. ODST won't bomb, ODST will still be good, ODST will still be one of the better games released this Autumn. End of.

  • 06.18.2009 2:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: Robohog 4000
Don't care. ODST won't bomb, ODST will still be good, ODST will still be one of the better games released this Autumn. End of.


I don't know man.. Did you see how Soap took down the guy in the snowmobile with a freaking climbing axe? A FREAKING CLIMBING AXE FOR GOD'S SAKE!

  • 06.18.2009 2:44 AM PDT

That was pretty cool. Can't wait for MW2.
Assassin's Creed II looked like it improved TREMENDOUSLY from the first. And Brutal Legend will be another giving ODST a run for the money.

  • 06.18.2009 2:47 AM PDT
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my gt is Godzillla....i just didnt link it properly

complaining about the price of a game represents a complete ignorance to what it takes to make a game

be happy its only 60...be happy halo 3 only cost 60
considering the time you will put into it , it will pay for itself


you think game development is cheap and quick?
it isnt
its expensive and long so if you want to continue to play games made by bungie then i suggest you either deal or go read a book you 2 year old

  • 06.18.2009 2:48 AM PDT

Loyalty is all I have.

I think it will do just fine, because people will buy it for the sole fact that it has Halo in its name, it doesn't matter if its gonna be good or not ( I think it will)

  • 06.18.2009 2:50 AM PDT

I'm a full time college student and have a part time job, trust me I'm not swimming in money and I don't think it is over priced and will be buying it when it comes out.

  • 06.18.2009 2:58 AM PDT
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You people should be happy Microsoft has such a good line up for us this year. I mean, if they announced a Halo 4 you guys would complain about it. Jesus Christ, no matter what Bungie and Microsoft do you always, always, ALWAYS complain. Be thankful for once.

  • 06.18.2009 4:23 AM PDT
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ROBOHOG IS VERY BRILLIANT AND STUFF.

Posted by: The_omen
Posted by: Robohog 4000
Don't care. ODST won't bomb, ODST will still be good, ODST will still be one of the better games released this Autumn. End of.


I don't know man.. Did you see how Soap took down the guy in the snowmobile with a freaking climbing axe? A FREAKING CLIMBING AXE FOR GOD'S SAKE!


Aha, you see I never said ODST would be the BEST game coming out this Autumn. We have the likes of the awesome Modern Warfare 2 being released about that time, as well as the interesting looking Section Eight. But I bet you ODST will be one of the better games out this year, and I'll definitely play it more than MW2 (Not because MW2 will suck. I just prefer Halo's gameplay over COD's, that's all).

And knocking guys off of snowmobiles with axes is always good. No arguements.

  • 06.18.2009 4:32 AM PDT
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Posted by: Robohog 4000
Posted by: The_omen
Posted by: Robohog 4000
Don't care. ODST won't bomb, ODST will still be good, ODST will still be one of the better games released this Autumn. End of.


I don't know man.. Did you see how Soap took down the guy in the snowmobile with a freaking climbing axe? A FREAKING CLIMBING AXE FOR GOD'S SAKE!


Aha, you see I never said ODST would be the BEST game coming out this Autumn. We have the likes of the awesome Modern Warfare 2 being released about that time, as well as the interesting looking Section Eight. But I bet you ODST will be one of the better games out this year, and I'll definitely play it more than MW2 (Not because MW2 will suck. I just prefer Halo's gameplay over COD's, that's all).

And knocking guys off of snowmobiles with axes is always good. No arguements.

I'm sorry to say, but the Glock snowmobile scene looks much more epic than that. As well, I like the customized weaponry the enemy soldiers have.

  • 06.18.2009 5:25 AM PDT
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I hope it sells amazingly like Bungie intended, Its a full xbox 360 game not a add-on

  • 06.18.2009 5:45 AM PDT

---SleezyKelveezy


Resistance Is Futile...

Canadians suck, they shuld pay $50 more for being canadian... What a pointless country..

But yeah $70 canadian probally is about $60 american aint it? I dno but sience everyone is voiceing opinions. canada sucks!

  • 06.18.2009 6:02 AM PDT

Furry At Heart,
Furry Forever óÓÒò

Supreme mastery therefore, is not to be victorious in all your battles; supreme excellence is to be victorious without fighting.

"Love is composed of a single soul inhabiting two bodies. "

Why are you so pissed? Can you not afford it or something?

If you have a job and save up you can get the game no problem.

True the game started as an expansion, but if you've watched and read about it from the E3 and other coverage, you would see that it has become much more. An open world environment with technically infinite gameplay, and the other features make it worth my money.

Stop whining. It will get you nothing nothing.

For my part, I hope the game does incredibly well and sells 10 million copies.

[Edited on 06.18.2009 6:13 AM PDT]

  • 06.18.2009 6:13 AM PDT

Yes, really

its not going to "bomb" its not going to sell as well as H3. for me i view it as a full game. open world 5-7 hour campaign, new game mode, new(ish) guns, new maps etc. and the fact that "halo" is in the title already sold me.

  • 06.18.2009 6:19 AM PDT

I got to Set 6, Round 2, Wave 5 on Heroic GETTING ME RECON! ;)

I cant wait for it. And theres one good solid reason.

FIREFIGHT. Why? because ok, just the other day when live was offline, i had absolutely nothing to do. So you know what i did? Invited everyone i knew to play some lan matches. It was the most fun i had on halo in a long time. ONLINE will never compare against the fun your having when your sitting down playing each other. Getting to the point FIREFIGHT will finally complete what the series needed the whole time. To be able to play alone if you choose and fight the covenant in this epic neck and neck battle, consistently. FIREFIGHT brings more the table, you cant just think of it as not being there, because you are.

ODST IS NOT an expansion pack in my eyes, its a lot more than that. Its a totally new game, and if you cant see that you must have picked up a blind skull. Yes Bungie did say they didnt see it as a $60 game because at the time, they even said it themselves, they didnt expect the game to be where it is now. Its grown to be a lot more than what they originally planned it to be. Therefor Bungie agrees, as well as Microsoft pricing this game at $60 is sufficient. You get more than just ODST, you get all the previous Halo 3 multiplayer content, New content, and much more that i dont need to repeat. Go here. :P

In other words, its a full priced game. And theres nothing you can do about it, other than not buy. YOUR GOING TO MISS OUT.

besides, i know you want recon ;)
stop kidding yourself.

  • 06.18.2009 6:19 AM PDT
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For honor, for glory... for the Seventh Column.

Posted by: pens win teh CUP
Posted by: Feakz001
You want to punish Bungie for a decision made by Microsoft. STFU, and GTFO. Now.


yes

grow a backbone bungie...and if youre going to be MS' little lap dog then take the backlash like the good little -blam!- you are


How could you even say that??? Bungie loves us.

  • 06.18.2009 6:30 AM PDT

Boom. Headshot!

Posted by: pens win teh CUP
Posted by: Feakz001
You want to punish Bungie for a decision made by Microsoft. STFU, and GTFO. Now.


yes

grow a backbone bungie...and if youre going to be MS' little lap dog then take the backlash like the good little -blam!- you are


I don't know what is going through your little head but obviously your ignorance has blinded you from knowing that Microsoft has almost complete control over Bungie. That does not make Bungie a lap dog. If that were true then every company owned by a major company would be a lap dog. Bungie must be with microsoft and listen to orders if anybody is going to make money. Telling the BEST franchise creator in the entire world to grow a backbone is a disgrace to this very forum. I think you should shut up, be blacklisted, and get a life.

  • 06.18.2009 6:39 AM PDT

Break the rules,
Stand apart,
Ignore your head,
And follow your heart

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Posted by: pens win teh CUP
i do

i hope it sells HORRIBLY

that way MS and bungie will get it thought their heads to never pull a stunt like this again

60$ for an expansion(oh sorry 70$ bcuz apparently Canadians need to pay 10$ more than americans).....go -blam!- yourself

i hope theres massive backlash by from the gaming media too when the reviews start to hit and 6s and 7s start to pop up

i hope this game single handedly tarnishes the entire halo franchise....well no doubt it will....halo is officially milked when youre releasing stuff like ODST as a "full" priced game



bungie announced at E3 that ODST would be a full out game not just an expansion. learn more about a subject before you talk about it in here

  • 06.18.2009 6:41 AM PDT

"The land may melt, the seas may swell, the sky will fall... but They will come." - Malzahar

The OP plays Halo 3 so he is most likley trolling, and is also probably going to buy the game anyway. He is in fact a Halo fan, just don't feed the troll.

  • 06.18.2009 6:46 AM PDT

People Die..But Spartans Live Forever!

Delta Squad X

Dear OP, you are the reason why kids like you get flamed so much. What the hell do you think were gonna do? Start a freaking mutiny against bungie for making ODST? You are stupid kid who thinks everyone should follow his opinion, or you just think you might make a difference, but YOU WONT! Just in spite of you i hope ODST sells like a hanna montana doll at wal mart.

You should get banned for being so ignorant. I understand your opinion is ODST should be cheaper..well we all got it, but ur bad mouthing the greatest game company on earth. If i ever seen you in person i might smack you and thats just because you deserve it, not because of what you said.

So go get a LIFE and get a GF and lose your virginity so you wont be such a pain in everyones ass.

  • 06.18.2009 6:48 AM PDT
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Why can't we put Bungie Cards here?

Enough with the nerd rage guys, this dude is entitled to his opinion.
However, i did the math and actually the pricing is more or less correct:

9 hour campaign + 15 maps = $60
4 hour campaign + 15 maps + 12 new maps + firefight = $60

As you can see, even though the campaign is significantly shorter, you get more maps and firefight.

The problem i have with it is that they bundle the original maps and the DLC maps into the package, and use them as justification for the higher price. This means that many people are going to be forced to essentially purchase the original maps and the DLC maps a second time, something which i find to be a really dirty trick by MS to get more money.

That said i doubt they will change it any time soon, certainly not with the sheep from the first page begging for the oppurtunity to have the honor of paying double the price for products from the original game to be included in an expansion.

"Here, buy the new XBOX 720, it comes with an XBOX 360 which is why it costs $300 more!
And while you are at it, buy GTA5, it costs $120 because it comes with GTAIV!" etc.

  • 06.18.2009 6:50 AM PDT

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