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Remember back to the last cinematics after the credits on legendary.
Now, I have taken into account that Halo: Reach is apparently not a sequel and is a prequel...

My theory is that at the end of Halo 3, when Master Chief and Cortana don't make it through the portal in time, they get transported back through time without realizing it to the time of The Battle of Reach (August, 2552, about a week before the events of Halo 1). Then, Master Chief is the last surviving Spartan, and gets picked up by the Pillar of Autumn...

So basically... a prequel and a sequel at the same time.

Discuss.

If you have time, have a look at this theory I have as well:
http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=33843737

Thank you for your time,
-Valencius01-

[Edited on 06.18.2009 12:31 AM PDT]

  • 06.18.2009 12:27 AM PDT
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Sigh.....

Read Fall of Reach, then play the opening cutscene to Halo: CE.

The end.

  • 06.18.2009 12:30 AM PDT

MC was fighting at reach at the time it was attacked. If MC traveled back in time there would be two master chiefs.

Although the legendary ending must of had some meaning, maybe your theory is correct, what else could the legendary ending mean?

  • 06.18.2009 2:12 AM PDT

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i woke a bit ago and my son was playing halo 3 he was on forge i saw at the bottom of the screen was a charge for 35 dollars is that real or not did he charge 35 bucks or is that justfor the in game

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A time travel theory?! How original and plausible!

Or not. On both accounts.

The Legendary ending is a cliffhanger, in case Bungie ever decide to make a sequal. This is NOT it.

  • 06.18.2009 2:15 AM PDT

Loyalty is all I have.

No offense but
HELL NO!

  • 06.18.2009 2:16 AM PDT

halo3 odst 9/22/09

halo reach falls in 2010 (also search halo reach on amazon.com you can pre order it) i didnt so you might not want to

my theory is that the planet at legendary is reach after the battle and halo reach tells the story of what happened at that planet

  • 06.18.2009 2:23 AM PDT

Loyalty is all I have.

sigh, the planet at the end of Halo 3 is obviously NOT glassed, but fully intact w/ structures on it. Reach was glassed and made uninhabital. Wanna see a planet that is getting pounded by plasma just look at the top of this forum page, and compare it to the one at the ending of Halo 3

  • 06.18.2009 2:27 AM PDT

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i now point u in the derection of star wars (another sci fi set in the future might i add coincidence?) where aniken starwalker dies but then he is revived now he die from lava but in halo the fall of reach which totally deals with the fall of reach sam is a cool hawayen sparten and if u have seen 300 u kno the spartens never die. i mean i think that the king is the master chief (but thats another theroy if u play marathon u kno time traval, they r called spartens anyway i think bungie did tie in ith 300). anyway sam says spartans never die (so my uncle who works at bungie tells me) and then nukes himself. how can he survive? simple he is sparten and after halo 3 master chief goes back 2 when he was training in the fall of reach, and then he saves sam. he rebilds him with the help of cortana in ther ship and then they fly all around the universe reuniting the spartens. if u notice y sam looks so wierd its bcuz they gave him elite legs becuz his got destroyed in the blast. and then they go to wen reach fell and then they all go to the planet and then they kill those covenants.

An zen say tak der transpotter ups to zah intrerprizes after zey warpz again ( a story set in the past, I night add, coincidence?) where's zey getz all dah fazorz and findz the Captain log in Dr Spocks toilet zen zey pee onz the cieling and say to boldy go where no manz haz gonz beforz.Zen zey runz all over dah interprizes anz fazorz everybodiez cuz hez dah Mister Chef andz hez noys taken anzy BS from Captain Jirk Zen the Mister Chef sayz my Dadz can beet upz yourz Dadz andz zen Captain Jirk Sayz see myz fingerz see myz thumbz seez myz fistycuffs better runz. Thenz zah Mister Chef sayz shame shame double lame everybodyz noze yourz namez. They go fistycuffz and zen zey becomez BFF's and beetz up dah Kilngonz andz zah Covenatnz and zen all dah prettyz gurlz lovez zem!!! ZOMG diz doyng be cool!!!!!

Halo for zah Universe...We Haz Zah Powerz!!!!!!!!!

And remember kids to pick up your Halo Reach tooth brush with the dental angle and Halo logo on it at participating stores in Fall 2010

[Edited on 06.18.2009 6:45 AM PDT]

  • 06.18.2009 6:41 AM PDT

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The Halo REACH Script (post thoughts in thread)

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Posted by: teddyvonm
Sigh.....

Read Fall of Reach, then play the opening cutscene to Halo: CE.

The end.
Read the last 3 chapters of Fall of Reach and this is the lead-up to the fall of the planet Reach (which occurs after the PoA leaves, and is described in First Strike)*

  • 06.18.2009 8:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: teddyvonm
Sigh.....

Read Fall of Reach, then play the opening cutscene to Halo: CE.

The end.
Read the last 3 chapters of Fall of Reach and this is the lead-up to the fall of the planet Reach (which occurs after the PoA leaves, and is described in First Strike)*


Unfortunetly guys *Bungie* doesent have to give a CRAP IN HELL ABOUT THE BOOKS ANYMORE! btw guys you need to calm down there isn't any actuall facts or any Proof of time travel or whatever you guys wanna call it, But....It is very Possible of this theory because Bungie doesent have to give a crap about the books Plus any theory's are just PURE *speculation* just having some fun guys don't get all mad seriously!

  • 06.18.2009 8:58 AM PDT

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The Halo REACH Script (post thoughts in thread)

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Posted by: XGO Icetitan
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: teddyvonm
Sigh.....

Read Fall of Reach, then play the opening cutscene to Halo: CE.

The end.
Read the last 3 chapters of Fall of Reach and this is the lead-up to the fall of the planet Reach (which occurs after the PoA leaves, and is described in First Strike)*


Unfortunetly guys *Bungie* doesent have to give a CRAP IN HELL ABOUT THE BOOKS ANYMORE! btw guys you need to calm down there isn't any actuall facts or any Proof of time travel or whatever you guys wanna call it, But....It is very Possible of this theory because Bungie doesent have to give a crap about the books Plus any theory's are just PURE *speculation* just having some fun guys don't get all mad seriously!
They won't change the story. We may see a new view of the story (someone's PoV not detailed in the book, there are 11 unnamed healthy Spartans who stayed at the generators) but I bet the beginning will still be the same (Spartans fall to Reach, move to defend the generators, split up, etc.)

  • 06.18.2009 9:00 AM PDT
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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: XGO Icetitan
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: teddyvonm
Sigh.....

Read Fall of Reach, then play the opening cutscene to Halo: CE.

The end.
Read the last 3 chapters of Fall of Reach and this is the lead-up to the fall of the planet Reach (which occurs after the PoA leaves, and is described in First Strike)*



Unfortunetly guys *Bungie* doesent have to give a CRAP IN HELL ABOUT THE BOOKS ANYMORE! btw guys you need to calm down there isn't any actuall facts or any Proof of time travel or whatever you guys wanna call it, But....It is very Possible of this theory because Bungie doesent have to give a crap about the books Plus any theory's are just PURE *speculation* just having some fun guys don't get all mad seriously!
They won't change the story. We may see a new view of the story (someone's PoV not detailed in the book, there are 11 unnamed healthy Spartans who stayed at the generators) but I bet the beginning will still be the same (Spartans fall to Reach, move to defend the generators, split up, etc.)




I'm not saying Bungie wont keep going with the story I'm saying they don't have to follow the books cause there's only 4 books plus Halo:Contact Harvest so they can't follow the stupid books forever plus we are dealing with the sneakiest gaming company in History they will tell you a Partial truth Like *Obama* then pull something on you lol.


yeah on another note Cheehwawa Nice script for the story and I like your enthusiasm for Halo.

[Edited on 06.18.2009 9:05 AM PDT]

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I don't remember how Master Chief got on the POA after Reach, but he certainly wasn't picked up from the wreckage of the Dawn. If the theory you're proposing was true there would be two Master Chief 117's on the POA, at Halo, and throughout Halo 2 and 3. Also I'm sure having two Master Chiefs would change the outcome of Halo 1, 2, and 3. If the events were unchanged and both Chiefs went back in time on the Dawn you'd end up with three Master Chiefs.

Did I misunderstand your theory?

  • 06.18.2009 9:04 AM PDT
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I don't remember how Master Chief got on the POA after Reach, but he certainly wasn't picked up from the wreckage of the Dawn. If the theory you're proposing was true there would be two Master Chief 117's on the POA, at Halo, and throughout Halo 2 and 3. Also I'm sure having two Master Chiefs would change the outcome of Halo 1, 2, and 3. If the events were unchanged and both Chiefs went back in time on the Dawn you'd end up with three Master Chiefs.

Did I misunderstand your theory?


except I think he's Proposing that Chief goes back in time to change the future....

  • 06.18.2009 9:07 AM PDT
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Posted by: RoyalEngineerSon
I don't remember how Master Chief got on the POA after Reach, but he certainly wasn't picked up from the wreckage of the Dawn. If the theory you're proposing was true there would be two Master Chief 117's on the POA, at Halo, and throughout Halo 2 and 3. Also I'm sure having two Master Chiefs would change the outcome of Halo 1, 2, and 3. If the events were unchanged and both Chiefs went back in time on the Dawn you'd end up with three Master Chiefs.

Did I misunderstand your theory?


except I think he's Proposing that Chief goes back in time to change the future....


If there were two Chiefs it would be a prequel/sequel as he said, but he also said that the POA picks up Chief and he is the last spartan. How can two Chiefs be the last Spartan. There'd be two. Spartans.

Not to be mean, but the theory makes no sense. Also there's no basis for it. Sorry for being blunt.


  • 06.18.2009 9:16 AM PDT
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well I dont know good Point but Perhaps the first chief dies some how lol and the Orginal chief has to go back and save the future I dont know lol (I know totally random)

  • 06.18.2009 9:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: XGO Icetitan
well I dont know good Point but Perhaps the first chief dies some how lol and the Orginal chief has to go back and save the future I dont know lol (I know totally random)


Technically they are both original. Only clones aren't original. It's better to refer to them as Cheif from times. 2552 Chief and 2553 Chief are what I will use. You could also say past chief, present chief, or future chief.

The only way the 2552 Chief could die and the 2553 Chief would have to take his place is if the 2553 Chief caused the 2552 Chief's death somehow. Since we don't actually know how time travel works its hard to say. I think that when you time travel you create a new alternate reality, therefore if 2552 Chief died 2553 Chief would remain. However we don't actually know how time travel works, and if you don't create alternate realities when you travel into the past your past self's death could result in your ceasing to exist.

Since time travel could work either way, it is up to the creators of the game/ movie/ book to determine how they want it to work in their own media.

[Edited on 06.18.2009 9:42 AM PDT]

  • 06.18.2009 9:42 AM PDT

OmG this theory doesn't make any sense.
That's such a lame story... o.O let's make the MC travel back in time so we can do what???
It's more likely that the part that didn't make got flung somewhere in space to a Forerunner world or something like that then timetravel.
How in god's name can you timetravel when you don't go through anything....
Anyways the books are side but they are still acknowledge by bungie and because they did that, they say that what in the books is the 'thruth' sort of atleast.
And in the books it's discribed that the MC and the other Spartan's got in the ship even before Keyes came there and! they only go offship to 1. get to the planet 2. destroy nav data in the ship Circumference.
After that they make a quick dash for it since Reach get's PWNED by loads of Covenant.
AND they can't pick-up/do anything like that in slipspace.
AND even if MC got flung back in time a week before this happend how is it that there is only 1 spartan with the name John-117???(* /masterchief)
If there would've been 2 of them they would've both responded to keyes and! in the books you can(if you count)see how many spartan's there should be and i'm pretty sure there isn't a spartan extra.
Anyways this theory is complete nonsense.
End of Story.


  • 06.18.2009 10:03 AM PDT