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and only idiots get in a vehicle and ride around the whole time, racking up some turret kills, and some wheelmans, just so they can brag to their friends that they got fifteen kills in a match. whatever, bungie designed the laser to stop ignorant people who ride in vehicles the whole match.

  • 06.18.2009 8:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: xXPinkMaggotXx
and only idiots get in a vehicle and ride around the whole time, racking up some turret kills, and some wheelmans, just so they can brag to their friends that they got fifteen kills in a match. whatever, bungie designed the laser to stop ignorant people who ride in vehicles the whole match.

Yes, that MUST be the reason that they designed the Laser. Nevermind the fact that the Rocket Launcher in Halo 2 was an abomination, THIS is the real reason Bungie introduced the Laser. Urgh, facepalm.

Also, how is driving vehicles ignorance? Vehicles are just as an important part of the Halo sandbox as infantry weapons are. If a Hog Driver & a Gunner can rack up 15 kills in a single spree, then it means that they're probably communicating with each other. Vehicles are a large part of Big Team, if you don't like them, why are you even in Big Team in the first place?

The Laser takes SOME degree of skill, but lets be honest, it's an extremely easy power weapon to use. I mean for christs sake, I could use the thing the first time I picked it up.

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  • 06.18.2009 8:23 AM PDT

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I don't really like it either. Give me the homing rockets, and that's all we need.

  • 06.18.2009 8:29 AM PDT

Posted by: xXPinkMaggotXx
the laser takes skill, any noob can pick up a weapon and get one or two kills with it. but when get ahold of a laser three times to kill 12 people out of the available 15 shots, you have skill. PERIOD.


What? What kind of skill?

First, if you're getting the laser 3 times in one game, you're playing people who aren't good at the game.
Second, There has NEVER been a weapon easier to use in the entire halo series. 12/15 with the laser doesn't shock me, at all. What skill are we talking about? The skill of putting your crosshairs on somebody (whether it's their toe, or face) and shooting? Oh, and keep in mind that you don't have to lead your shot (at any distance). In addition, vehicles are completely destroyed no matter where you shoot the vehicle. So you can't screw up on that one.

  • 06.18.2009 8:32 AM PDT
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i dont play big team. i play slayer, swat, and snipers. the laser is a great weapon, but i can see how you would want it exempt from the next following games. and i get what you mean by the lag, its happened to me more than enough times, i just randomly explode, no light beam, none of that -blam!-. just death. but i love the laser and hate riding in vehicles, so its just my natural nature to want to screw everyone and anyone who gets in a vehicle. i dont know how many of my friends who dont play the quarter of the amount of what i do, instantly get on, and get on a vehicle because they know they suck with any other weapon, and with out a laser or rocket launcher the worthog is nearly impossible to just take out. its even nearly impossible to stick. you have to stick it atleast twice to get any where with destroying it, and that will more then likely cause you two deaths in the process. the same goes for a banshee or any other vehicle. thats why i love it, because none of that -blam!- stands when you have the laser. and if you do have the laser, only one shot will normally go toward a vehicle kill, i use the rest on spartans and elites like you, and then they get upset and come post their stupidity on a bungie forum, complaining how the weapon sucks.

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Posted by: xXPinkMaggotXx
i use the rest on spartans and elites like you, and then they get upset and come post their stupidity on a bungie forum, complaining how the weapon sucks.


What part of any of my posts indicate that i'm "upset"? I'm simply saying that the Laser is too easy to use. Any old nubcake can use that thing. Also, i'm sure that you can make a point without trying to insult me. I might take what you have to say a bit more seriously then. Can't I criticise something without childish remarks being thrown at me? Seriously people.

I use the Laser a lot, and even I recognise that it's overpowered and too easy to use.

Alternatives to the Laser? Rockets, Spike Grenades (Not on every map though, i'll give you that), Brute Shot, I also find that a Power Drain + Plasma Grenade combo works well if you time it right and use your cover wisely. There are plenty of alternatives.

Additionally, in my first post, I mentioned some ways on how to help balance out the Laser.

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AGREED.

Laser takes very little skill to use. It's a 1HK on even a tank, and it's a hit-scan weapon. Disguisting. The laser should be replaced by a Gauss Rifle (the one from Contact Harvest, that Johnson used). Same power as the laser, only you would actually need to lead your shots, so it would require some skill, rather than just point and click.

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
AGREED.

Laser takes very little skill to use. It's a 1HK on even a tank, and it's a hit-scan weapon. Disguisting. The laser should be replaced by a Gauss Rifle (the one from Contact Harvest, that Johnson used). Same power as the laser, only you would actually need to lead your shots, so it would require some skill, rather than just point and click.


I haven't read Contact Harvest, but that sounds good to me. It's doesn't mess up the continuity, and it sounds pretty balanced enough. Skilled people will be able to get kills with it, without completely nerfing the vehicles.

  • 06.18.2009 8:49 AM PDT

Posted by: xXPinkMaggotXx
i use the rest on spartans and elites like you, and then they get upset and come post their stupidity on a bungie forum, complaining how the weapon sucks.


Pink. I'm starting to think the reason you're not making sense is because the level of competition you're facing.

If you were playing a room full of 50's, you probably would never get the laser. And getting in a vehicle would be a bad idea, because people who don't miss very often with the sniper will most certainly not miss with the laser.

  • 06.18.2009 8:50 AM PDT

Thank god for the lazer. I don't think you really get how powerful the vehicles are in this game.

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Posted by: THE GdaTerry
Thank god for the lazer. I don't think you really get how powerful the vehicles are in this game.
I'm not saying to completely remove the Laser. I'm just saying that it needs to either be harder to use, or needs to be replaced with something that's harder to use, like the Gauss Cannon that Cheewawa mentioned.

  • 06.18.2009 8:52 AM PDT

Posted by: THE GdaTerry
Thank god for the lazer. I don't think you really get how powerful the vehicles are in this game.


I agree that if there was no laser the vehicles would be overpowering (obviously). I guess i didn't see anything wrong with the homing rockets, i thought that made for a perfect balance because it wasn't ridiculously easy to use- and yet it was effective against vehicles.

[Edited on 06.18.2009 8:57 AM PDT]

  • 06.18.2009 8:56 AM PDT

Lolular!

Kyletacular-Killtacular-get it?

I like all the guns, even though i hate brs but they should stay since they are part of Halo now.

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I don't mind BR's, though I kind of hate how you NEED to use them to stand a chance in any kind of engagement.

That said, this thread is about Splasers.

[Edited on 06.18.2009 9:07 AM PDT]

  • 06.18.2009 9:03 AM PDT

Posted by: Pokeh
I don't mind BR's, though I kind of hate how you NEED to use them to stand a chance in any kind of engagement.

That said, this thread is about Splasers.

I know, i think there's a real imbalance in halo 3.

The BR is way more valuable than any dual weilding combination in the game, which wasn't the case in halo 2. Yet at the same time you can easily pick them up, so the only weapon i ever really want is the BR (excluding the power weapons).

2 things that need to be fixed for halo: reach are

1) weapon imbalance between BR's and everything else
2) the balance between vehicles and anti-vehicle weapons. the laser needs to be taken out and replaced with something more reasonable (while not letting vehicles reign supreme).

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I don't mind BR's, though I kind of hate how you NEED to use them to stand a chance in any kind of engagement.

That said, this thread is about Splasers.

I know, i think there's a real imbalance in halo 3.

The BR is way more valuable than any dual weilding combination in the game, which wasn't the case in halo 2. Yet at the same time you can easily pick them up, so the only weapon i ever really want is the BR (excluding the power weapons).

2 things that need to be fixed for halo: reach are

1) weapon imbalance between BR's and everything else
2) the balance between vehicles and anti-vehicle weapons. the laser needs to be taken out and replaced with something more reasonable (while not letting vehicles reign supreme).


I agree, and with point 2, you pretty much summed-up what I wanted. (:

  • 06.18.2009 9:16 AM PDT

To combat your argument, they (read: Bungie) should reduce the number of shots from the laser to three shots, maybe two. That way, the Spartan Laser will serve its intended purpose as an anti-vehicle weapon, not as an anti-everything weapon.

There, problem solved.

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Posted by: Sir Ben
I know, i think there's a real imbalance in halo 3.

The BR is way more valuable than any dual weilding combination in the game, which wasn't the case in halo 2. Yet at the same time you can easily pick them up, so the only weapon i ever really want is the BR (excluding the power weapons).
Simple solution: get rid of dual wielding, so all weapons will be as powerful as the BR in their own range (like in Halo 1, the Pistol was only goot at midrange, at close and long it got beaten by everything else, even the plasma pistol).

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and how often in matchmaking do you get paired up with all 50's not realistic. but i was trying to in sult whoever, im jsut saying i love the laser and i believe its part of halo just as the br. but whatever, haha this pointless talknig about it, because bungie is gonig to do whatever the hell they want anyway haha. GO BUNGIE!

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You need to work with your team, the laser can't shoot in multiple directions at once.

Try using the sniper rifle or team BRing.

  • 06.18.2009 9:22 AM PDT

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Posted by: THE GdaTerry
Thank god for the lazer. I don't think you really get how powerful the vehicles are in this game.
I'm not saying to completely remove the Laser. I'm just saying that it needs to either be harder to use, or needs to be replaced with something that's harder to use, like the Gauss Cannon that Cheewawa mentioned.

Actualy you are LITERALLY saying you want to remove the laser, based on the title of the thread you made that we are all writing in " A weapon I would like to see removed from Halo Reach" lololol

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Posted by: CommanderBrutus
To combat your argument, they (read: Bungie) should reduce the number of shots from the laser to three shots, maybe two. That way, the Spartan Laser will serve its intended purpose as an anti-vehicle weapon, not as an anti-everything weapon.

There, problem solved.
No, problem not solved. It wouldn't change the fact that the weapon lags, and is too easy to use.

Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Simple solution: get rid of dual wielding, so all weapons will be as powerful as the BR in their own range (like in Halo 1, the Pistol was only goot at midrange, at close and long it got beaten by everything else, even the plasma pistol).
I agree with this. I remember in Halo:CE, the Plasma Pistol wasn't quite as pathetic as it is now.

Posted by: xXPinkMaggotXx
and how often in matchmaking do you get paired up with all 50's not realistic. but i was trying to in sult whoever, im jsut saying i love the laser and i believe its part of halo just as the br. but whatever, haha this pointless talknig about it, because bungie is gonig to do whatever the hell they want anyway haha. GO BUNGIE!
All 8 player as 50's? Not often, but I do encounter a large amount of Brigadiers and Generals in BTB. And i'm not just talking about 50's here anyway, like, 99% of the Halo population can probably use a Laser. It's not hard.

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Thank god for the lazer. I don't think you really get how powerful the vehicles are in this game.
I'm not saying to completely remove the Laser. I'm just saying that it needs to either be harder to use, or needs to be replaced with something that's harder to use, like the Gauss Cannon that Cheewawa mentioned.

Actualy you are LITERALLY saying you want to remove the laser, based on the title of the thread you made that we are all writing in " A weapon I would like to see removed from Halo Reach" lololol


Touché, but you should get my point. Either make it harder to use, or replace it. Either one suits me.

  • 06.18.2009 9:25 AM PDT

Posted by: FiendishHollow
it wont be in reach because it was only recently developed around halo 3's time, reach is before halo 3 so logically it wont be there

not true, spartens had to had their own weapons like the odst's have their auto mag the spartens needed their own so it was made about the same time as mark. 4 armor.

  • 06.18.2009 9:26 AM PDT