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Subject: A weapon I would like to see removed from Halo Reach

Sorry guys but the laser isn't a noob cannon...
Sure it's a 1 hit ko weapon but to be completely honest if you know that there's a Spartan Laser in the other team WHY go in a vehicle=free kill/double kill/triple kill.
Anyways it's not that hard to let em miss you... i've dodged it so many times even in vehicles...
And in the lv's it's in there is a sniper most of the time... but not on standoff tho :< and if you are a proper sniper you can take him out easy since most of the time ppl stand still with spartan laser.
And if you get pwned all the time by it... it's either you or the skill of the person wielding it since i've had many occasions where a nab could've had a free kill on me but missed...
and sometimes I miss to... Ashamed of that tho.
But anyways the only map that i've played and where i find the laser OP=Standoff but as for the rest it's easily dodged/killed even without heavy weapons... just note where the guy is and backstab him/nuke him with like 3 BR's.
So keep the weapon it's fun and for ppl who don't like it. DUCK DODGE HIDE! and u won't get hit (unless the guy wielding it is WTF PWN)

  • 06.18.2009 10:19 AM PDT
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1- I have managed to kill Snipers with the Laser, even when their attention was focussed on me. It requires being clever with your cover and poking out at the last second, but it's possible.


Problem 1:

Why should you even have a CHANCE to kill a sniper with an anti-vehicle weapon?
Exactly.

  • 06.18.2009 10:20 AM PDT
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they do have a nerfed laser that you have to lead the shots. its called the sentinel beam

  • 06.18.2009 10:22 AM PDT

Because a laser is an anti vehicular and personel.
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  • 06.18.2009 10:22 AM PDT
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Thank you sir, that was an epic rendition of this topic.


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and how!

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And the entire map of Valhalla is open? HAH! That is a good one. The only open areas of Valhalla are the "fairway" down the center and the side near the Turret hill. If you can't find cover on Valhalla you are either constantly jumping out the "Cannon, Man" or just blindly rushing through the middle.
If you're using a VEHICLE, lets be honest, the majority of the time, you're in open space, and quite often, it can't be helped.

Like I said, i'm not buying the whole "my connection sucks" argument because I never experience lag with other weapons. Unless I see otherwise, I don't buy it. I have a 20Mb/s connection. This game shouldn't lag.


Vehicles are not meant to be used outside of open spaces, besides that, the laser spawns in the center and each team has an equal shot at it. Make sure the laser isn't being held by the other team before you start your Warthog push.

And I never said that your connection was bad, I said you get into laggier games.

If you have a 20Mb/s connection and everyone else is on dialup your game is going to be terrible. I've only had problems with laser lag when I was in laggy games; hence, you probably get laggier matches. Do you live far away from the U.S.?

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Posted by: dst
they do have a nerfed laser that you have to lead the shots. its called the sentinel beam
You can't be serious.

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Posted by: x MibZ x
If you have a 20Mb/s connection and everyone else is on dialup your game is going to be terrible. I've only had problems with laser lag when I was in laggy games; hence, you probably get laggier matches. Do you live far away from the U.S.?
I live in Britain.

If the Laser beam lags, then logic says that the weapon effects for everything else, Carbines, Beam Rifles, etc, should lag as well, which they don't.

Even then, the lag with this weapon isn't my main concern, it's the ease of use with it that I find frustrating. The Laser is an anti-vehicle, anti-air, and anti-personnel weapon. It serves too many roles, and is too effective at them.

Just make it a bit difficult to use, is all i'm asking for.

  • 06.18.2009 10:27 AM PDT

Soooo you want a weapon that is hard to use...?
If they ever make it harder to wield I can't wait for you to post on the forum that it is to hard to use :P

  • 06.18.2009 10:37 AM PDT

"Just make it a bit difficult to use, is all i'm asking for."

How? It already has a charge time. What else could you do make the charge time longer?

Give it less ammo? Nope it only has five shots.

And as for leading, that makes no sense, its a laser, lasers can move faster than the speed of light.

  • 06.18.2009 10:37 AM PDT

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"Just make it a bit difficult to use, is all i'm asking for."

How? It already has a charge time. What else could you do make the charge time longer?

Give it less ammo? Nope it only has five shots.

And as for leading, that makes no sense, its a laser, lasers can move faster than the speed of light.


hehe you are totally right ;)

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you don't take a joke very well

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Posted by: jerbearzzz
"Just make it a bit difficult to use, is all i'm asking for."

How? It already has a charge time. What else could you do make the charge time longer?

Give it less ammo? Nope it only has five shots.

And as for leading, that makes no sense, its a laser, lasers can move faster than the speed of light.
Read the thread. Someone suggested making it so that it doesn't fire a Laser, but rather, that it fires a Gauss Cannon. That would be more realistic given the time period of the game, and would have the same effect as the Laser.

Posted by: Crusader
Soooo you want a weapon that is hard to use...?
If they ever make it harder to wield I can't wait for you to post on the forum that it is to hard to use :P
As it stands, I am terrible with a Sniper, to me, it's a difficult weapon to use. I have not complained about the Sniper, nor do I plan to.

I can see what you mean though. Some people complain no matter what. This, however, is something that I want to happen.

  • 06.18.2009 10:40 AM PDT

Posted by: Crusader
Soooo you want a weapon that is hard to use...?
If they ever make it harder to wield I can't wait for you to post on the forum that it is to hard to use :P


The weapon should be hardER to use. It's negatives don't come close to outweighing it's positives.

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Posted by: dst
you don't take a joke very well
It's difficult to detect sarcasm on the Interwebs. Considering half the stuff that some people say here, to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if you actually meant what you said. My apologies. :p

  • 06.18.2009 10:41 AM PDT

All I ask is that you don't try to capture me.

You can't put lead on the splazer, it travels at the speed of light!

Besides, the splazer hasn't been invented yet! The Battle of Reach took place before Halo 1. God knows how Bungie is gonna reconcile the canon with that, but my hope is that the game ships with Halo 1 and 2's weapons ONLY.

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You can't put lead on the splazer, it travels at the speed of light!

Besides, the splazer hasn't been invented yet! The Battle of Reach took place before Halo 1. God knows how Bungie is gonna reconcile the canon with that, but my hope is that the game ships with Halo 1 and 2's weapons ONLY.


Like I said, Gauss Cannon.

Halo Wars had Splasers, which took place before the events of Halo:CE. I would not be surprised if Bungie put the Laser in this game, unfortunately.

  • 06.18.2009 10:44 AM PDT

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You don't even know which weapons will be in the game. Wait and then complain.

  • 06.18.2009 10:50 AM PDT

Or they can just make the current laser harder to use with a bigger lead like the sniper, and make it where they have to hit specific points on a vehicle like the engine or gas tank?

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Posted by: disgruntledfan2
Or they can just make the current laser harder to use with a bigger lead like the sniper, and make it where they have to hit specific points on a vehicle like the engine or gas tank?
Do you know hard it would be to kill a vehicle if you had to hit a specific spot?

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Posted by: disgruntledfan2
Or they can just make the current laser harder to use with a bigger lead like the sniper, and make it where they have to hit specific points on a vehicle like the engine or gas tank?


Both are good ideas, but I still prefer the Gauss Cannon idea from earlier. Hitting a specific spot could be problematic, on second thoughts.

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  • 06.18.2009 10:58 AM PDT

[quote]Posted by: xxSpartan 99xx
You don't even know which weapons will be in the game. Wait and then complain.[/quote ]

True... but what's the point in being on a forum if you don't discuss the What if's? I find this topic more meaningful than determining if the halo 3 ending is the beginning of reach.

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Posted by: disgruntledfan2
Or they can just make the current laser harder to use with a bigger lead like the sniper, and make it where they have to hit specific points on a vehicle like the engine or gas tank?
Well... you can't really lead with something that shoots at the speed of light =p

Why not just replace it with the Gauss Rifle from Contact Harvest (the one Johnson used), make it as strong as the laser, but you need to lead with it?

I would also like to see some vehicle weak spots... for everything, not just the Ghost (a great feature from H2 removed in H3 for some reason)

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Posted by: disgruntledfan2
Or they can just make the current laser harder to use with a bigger lead like the sniper, and make it where they have to hit specific points on a vehicle like the engine or gas tank?
Well... you can't really lead with something that shoots at the speed of light =p

Why not just replace it with the Gauss Rifle from Contact Harvest (the one Johnson used), make it as strong as the laser, but you need to lead with it?

I would also like to see some vehicle weak spots... for everything, not just the Ghost (a great feature from H2 removed in H3 for some reason)
Those are some really good ideas!

  • 06.18.2009 11:01 AM PDT

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was it even finished during the fall of reach?
if it was, why are we only seeing it in h3?
same thing with the BR but in h2...
it doesn't seem like it would fit to be in reach...

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
I would also like to see some vehicle weak spots... for everything, not just the Ghost (a great feature from H2 removed in H3 for some reason)


I used to love sniping the Fuel Tank of the Ghost in Halo 2, then the guy would just sort of jump out of it like "wtf?". It was great.

  • 06.18.2009 11:03 AM PDT