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Subject: A weapon I would like to see removed from Halo Reach

Posted by: Urine competent
Wed don't even know what weapon are going to be included in that game yet.


we're talking about what we want/don't want to see

  • 06.19.2009 1:07 PM PDT

I wasn't telling them, I was telling rambo.

Besides, why do you keep attacking me, I haven't expressed an opinion either way

  • 06.19.2009 1:08 PM PDT

Jump feet first into hell!

Posted by: Nozel1138
I wasn't telling them, I was telling rambo.

Besides, why do you keep attacking me, I haven't expressed an opinion either way


You did express your opinion via the things you wrote.
Sorry that i am so "offensive" but i really can't see any valid argument that proves that the spartan laser isn't overpowered in some cases yet people still say its fine(thing which ends up tiring).

[Edited on 06.19.2009 1:12 PM PDT]

  • 06.19.2009 1:12 PM PDT

I didn't say it wasn't overpowered, I said it was avoidable. I think it should be nerfed, not scrapped.

[Edited on 06.19.2009 1:14 PM PDT]

  • 06.19.2009 1:13 PM PDT

Jump feet first into hell!

Posted by: Nozel1138
I didn't say it wasn't overpowered, I said it was avoidable. I think it should be nerfed, not scrapped.


I didn't read your posts enough then.I agree too that it must not be completely scrapped since so many people love it and think its cool but it definitely needs to change( a lot).

About the avoidable part.The rocket launcher is avoidable , i wouldn't say the spartan laser is.
Unless we call something avoidable even if it can only be "avoided" once in a million.
But if that is the case there is really nothing un-avoidable.

To better let you understand what i am trying to say i will try something else.
Like i said before i prefer vehicular combat as it was in halo:combat evolved.
Because nothing is un-avoidable in that game and you don't have to exit your vehicle just because your enemy is holding weapon X or weapon Y.

Anti-vehicle weapons should be a threat to vehicles(of course) , but not to the level the spartan laser is in halo 3.
If i could ever find it balanced it would be against the banshee(still with hesitation).But all the other vehicles shouldn't have to face the spartan laser just because it is needed for one or two.
So i have suggested and i suggest again to make the rockets able to lock on on air targets only(if they are to remove the spartan laser).
If they don't remove it am sure they can work it around somehow.Like making it more effective vs air vehicles and less effective vs ground ones(just an example).

[Edited on 06.19.2009 1:32 PM PDT]

  • 06.19.2009 1:21 PM PDT

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I agree. I find the Laser to be simply too powerful on large maps, and a waste of space on small maps. We need a weapon that prevents vehicle domination, but still allows vehicles to be a viable option.

Btw, wasn't point 3 exactly the same as point 1?

  • 06.19.2009 1:36 PM PDT

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lead the shot?!?!?!?! you do realize that the that would have to be shooting at something at an outragous distance to lead a shot of LIGHT!!! Light from the sun takes 8 and 1/2 minutes to reach the earch thus you are looking back in time. So no in theroy leading the shot is immpractical because you would have to shoot at something a large distance away. No map is that big.

  • 06.19.2009 2:00 PM PDT

Stacked!

silly boy you have not learned the art of dodgeing the laser =P

  • 06.19.2009 2:03 PM PDT

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Seeing how this will be before halo 1 it will not be in halo reach because it is in the past.

  • 06.19.2009 2:22 PM PDT

if the laser isn't in halo reach then neither will the br
but the laser isn't op i've been hit by a laser many a time only to survive with no shields even when im in a vehicle
but a laser is an anti vehicle weapon and it is a players choice if they want to waste an anti vehicle weapon on infantry
just like the missle pod

  • 06.19.2009 2:29 PM PDT
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If they do keep the SP I think they should have no to little magnetism on who or what your firing at. I'd like to see that on all weapons except lock-ons and needlers for that matter.

  • 06.19.2009 2:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: Carolina Fan 46
Seeing how this will be before halo 1 it will not be in halo reach because it is in the past.
Once again, the Spartan Laser was in Halo Wars which was set before Reach.

OP, please mention that in the original body, because people seem to think that the Spartan Laser was made in the tiny gap between Halo 2 and Halo 3.

  • 06.19.2009 3:46 PM PDT

Posted by: xXPinkMaggotXx
Your exactly right pheonix, if the laser is so easy to use then why dont you see as many laser kills as you do beatdowns?
Idiot. The Spartan Laser has 5 shots, and is only on Avalanche, Standoff, Valhalla, Sandtrap, Last Resort, Construct, High Ground, and Snowbound default. With the beatdown, I do believe it has infinite ammunition and I also have reason to believe that the beat down appears on every single map.

The Spartan Laser is overpowered. Anyone with half a brain charges it up, looks for a target, and with timing and the incredible auto-aim, lands themself a kill. 5 free kills for your team.

It's a more powerful Sniper Rifle which is also awesome against vehicles. Very overpowered and shouldn't feature in the less technologically advanced Halo: Reach.

  • 06.19.2009 3:57 PM PDT

Maybe if they took it out you could get past force colonel.

  • 06.19.2009 4:18 PM PDT

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The time of which this game is set in is before the spartan laser, so technically it doesn't even exist yet.

None of the weapons in Halo 3 are in Halo: Reach, with the exception of maybe the AR, I assume.

[Edited on 06.19.2009 4:26 PM PDT]

  • 06.19.2009 4:25 PM PDT

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You say the weapon is practically a hit-scan. That would make sense and it would fit the weapon since it is a GIANT LASER CANNON.

  • 06.19.2009 4:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: Carolina Fan 46
Seeing how this will be before halo 1 it will not be in halo reach because it is in the past.
Once again, the Spartan Laser was in Halo Wars which was set before Reach.

OP, please mention that in the original body, because people seem to think that the Spartan Laser was made in the tiny gap between Halo 2 and Halo 3.


The spartan laser was made in that tiny gap.

They put it in Halo Wars because it would/is be badass.

  • 06.19.2009 4:29 PM PDT
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It's always skill, skill, skill with weapons. Maybe instead of going by what's more skillful to use, we go by what's more FUN to use. The more weapons to use, the better. Of course the Gauss Cannon is a great idea, but including them both in the game will show how much detail and quantity Bungie are willing to put into the game.

  • 06.19.2009 4:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: Carolina Fan 46
Seeing how this will be before halo 1 it will not be in halo reach because it is in the past.
Once again, the Spartan Laser was in Halo Wars which was set before Reach.

OP, please mention that in the original body, because people seem to think that the Spartan Laser was made in the tiny gap between Halo 2 and Halo 3.


The spartan laser was made in that tiny gap.

They put it in Halo Wars because it would/is be badass.
I was talking about the story and not the game development =P

  • 06.19.2009 4:35 PM PDT

@Helveck

Just an Average Joe...

Everyone has a preference of weapons, ones they like, and others they don't...

Majority of people I know, find it the laser a useful tool, and would be pretty damn pissed if it was just removed, including myself. You raise points only subjective to yourself, and your style of play really... So if Bungie plans on putting it in Reach, I don't think you can really talk them out of it :P

  • 06.19.2009 4:37 PM PDT

how about a GIANT RAILGUN like in transformers 2 that you can take around with you instead of laser :)

  • 06.19.2009 5:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
AGREED.

Laser takes very little skill to use. It's a 1HK on even a tank, and it's a hit-scan weapon. Disguisting. The laser should be replaced by a Gauss Rifle (the one from Contact Harvest, that Johnson used). Same power as the laser, only you would actually need to lead your shots, so it would require some skill, rather than just point and click.
I'm just going to point out that the Spartan Laser is actually not a 1HK weapon on Scorpions or Wraiths.

  • 06.19.2009 5:36 PM PDT

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Wait you want a laser that your have to lead? Lasers travel at the Speed of Light!!!!!

  • 06.19.2009 5:51 PM PDT
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Ok the laser can be a really cheap weapon against vehicle's but think about it. There are many level's where the vehicle's own just as much as the laser and on top of that i rarely get killed by the laser. the only way i would is when someone happens to come across the laser in a map see my vehicle and kill me and even on top of that there are only like 4 shots in it.

I understand if you want to get it removed but im just against your argument. The laser does not own that much. there are plenty of times I've killed a player with the spartan laser while on foot and even while in a vehicle and even when they were aiming at me getting ready to fire

Just the bottom line is that its not that hard to use (true) but its also not that hard to kill the player with the laser even when they are aiming at you

  • 06.19.2009 6:10 PM PDT
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Posted by: SuperAce 5
Wait you want a laser that your have to lead? Lasers travel at the Speed of Light!!!!!

Yes. I mean do lasers magically curve in the air and get magnetised to objects in real life like they do in H3. If so I want proof of this in real life.

[Edited on 06.19.2009 6:16 PM PDT]

  • 06.19.2009 6:15 PM PDT