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Posted by: Raylette
Posted by: TheCyberFreak
Posted by: Raylette
...ILB is not fully considered canon, only buts and pieces are. Same with Halo Wars.You cannot make the claim that only buts and pieces of ILB is canon without supporting it with a source.
That's one of the big problems around here. People are always pulling out "facts" to support their views that aren't facts at all. Worse is when other people read these comments and start repeating it.
If you want to claim ILB is canon you need to provide a source.
If you want to makes claims that only segments of it count as canon you need to supply a source.
If you cannot provide a source for your statement and the information you're providing is not already something widely accepted and documented then you must state that you're giving your opinion.
No more supporting views with dubious statements.
I agree. I should have posted my source. So....here it is. Halopedia page: Ilovebees
Section: Canon? (Quote from here down. I didn't write this)
The issue of whether or not I Love Bees should be considered Halo canon is somewhat unclear. In the Apocalypso Chat, the minds behind I Love Bees say that Bungie basically let them write their own thing, but offered certain suggestions regarding storytelling devices and corrected facets such as the original idea that ONI would hang traitors, which was changed to them given permanent comatose.[1] In October, 2004, this was expanded on by Joseph Staten in an interview with Halo.Bungie.Org, who, when asked if I Love Bees should be considered canon, said plainly "The Bees would not make the cut. Those guys basically did their own thing with very little Bungie input (save for massaging and approving the initial plot-treatment). While we helped define the boundaries of their fiction, we let them do what they thought best. And I think the game turned out great."[2]
However, in the July 28, 2006 episode of the 1up show, Frank O'Connor mentioned the revised state of canon as applied to I Love Bees. In answering a question about how the Halo Graphic Novel expanded the Halo universe beyond the games and Bungie's overall plans for the universe, he said, "We're going to have this huge collection of canon and things that we embrace as canon, like I Love Bees and stuff like that."[3] This was shown in the graphic novel as two characters from I Love Bees, Herzog and Standish, are referenced in a canon image, as well as events in the I Love Bees storyline in which they took place.[4]
Still, I Love Bees cannot be considered entirely Halo canon. There are elements of I Love Bees that directly contradict more recent Halo material of definite status of canon, such as the time in which characters Shaw and Fujikawa were supposed to have been alive. Perhaps I Love Bees should be considered at a similar canonical level as the expanded universe of the Star Wars series, in which I Love Bees should only be considered canon until contradicted elsewhere. In any case, the ARG's status of canon remains unclear.
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