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the price is fine.. people have to stop complaining. they think the game is just an expansion to H3, it's not... its an entirely different game, characters, everything. If they have a problem then they better do some research on the game, the development, the sleepness nights, everything that is put into a game.

  • 06.19.2009 5:42 PM PDT
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Posted by: The elite legen
the price is fine.. people have to stop complaining. they think the game is just an expansion to H3, it's not... its an entirely different game, characters, everything. If they have a problem then they better do some research on the game, the development, the sleepness nights, everything that is put into a game.


This is exactly what I mean. What is there not to get? WE ALREADY HAVE HALO3'S MULTIPLAYER AND THE MAPS.

MICROSOFT THEMSELVES SAID THE GAME ITSELF IS NOT WORTH 60$. ITS WORTH 60$ BECAUSE OF THE MULTIPLAYER AND MAPS (WHICH I ALREADY HAVE).
[caps to see if you understand now]

  • 06.19.2009 5:45 PM PDT
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Sorry for the double post but some guy msg'd me and I think some of you might have the same question, so I'ma post it here to clear it up:

Posted by: Go Vader
Correction, Bungie said they thought it wasn't worth $60, Microsoft thought otherwise.


Yes bungie did say so, but so did Microsoft.

http://kotaku.com/5274549/

From: Kotaku

Here's a list of the included content according to information released by Microsoft to the press today:

*LIST FROM MICROSOFT JUSTIFYING PRICE*

(The new game is said to support all of Halo 3's main features, including four-player co-op, campaign scoring, screenshots and Forge multiplayer map editing)


[Edited on 06.19.2009 9:43 PM PDT]

  • 06.19.2009 9:40 PM PDT
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the hardcore fans that are complaining are the tip of the ice berg

sure wel still buy it but people that are not so into halo will not

the price is ridiculous

  • 06.19.2009 9:42 PM PDT

But there's no sense crying over every mistake.
You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
And the Science gets done.
And you make a neat gun.
For the people who are still alive.

Posted by: GhOsT SnIpEr259
its really annoying that everyone thinks odst is an add-on. its a full game, pay the full price

Yes, people. You may of heard as ODST being an expansion but bungie have now said it's turning into more of a full game. Plus you get the multiplayer map packs (if you havent already got). And the new firefight mode, a whole new story, new weapons, new campaign, new graphics, new characters etc.

  • 06.19.2009 9:46 PM PDT

Just as every cop is a criminal,
And all the sinners saints,
As heads is tails, just call me lucifer
'Cause I'm in need of some restraint.

Bow chicka honk honk.

It actually works out pretty well for me. I need to get a new copy of Halo in September (higher education FTW) but odds are I'll only use the MP. Since that comes with ODST's campaign, and firefight, it seems quite worth $60.

  • 06.19.2009 9:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: GhOsT SnIpEr259
its really annoying that everyone thinks odst is an add-on. its a full game, pay the full price

Yes, people. You may of heard as ODST being an expansion but bungie have now said it's turning into more of a full game. Plus you get the multiplayer map packs (if you havent already got). And the new firefight mode, a whole new story, new weapons, new campaign, new graphics, new characters etc.


Look I'll agree with you, but so far we have nothing except a unofficial semi-confirmation that the game will come with at least 7 missions(since theres 7 teammates). Sure the game is open world, but until I get some confirmation on the length and number of missions/sidemissions I'll agree that its a complete game. So far, the only justification from MS and Bungie about the price is that it has alot of content which I already have.

I understand that if the game is as long as Halo3's then it is considered at least a full game which will then mean that the game is actually a bargian than a rip off. But so far, like I said, its a rip off to 4 million people (the ones that bought halo 3 and one or all the map packs)

Also, it doesn't have new graphics, Its just that Bungie didn't know they could do some things with their current engine (haha) or didn't want to add it to Halo 3, like a skybox (which WAS added in some maps)

[Edited on 06.19.2009 10:01 PM PDT]

  • 06.19.2009 9:53 PM PDT

I don't see how using the same engine somehow makes the game worth less. I don't know how many games were built in Source, but I know it's more that 2 (not that that bothers me, Source is a great engine). Bungie builds a new engine for each game, and the first time they reuse it everyone flips out? WTF.

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Posted by: Feakz001
I don't see how using the same engine somehow makes the game worth less. I don't know how many games were built in Source, but I know it's more that 2 (not that that bothers me, Source is a great engine). Bungie builds a new engine for each game, and the first time they reuse it everyone flips out? WTF.
No I'm not saying its worth less, I'm saying its less work. And since he said (the guy I quoted) that since it has new graphics its worth teh 60$. Which is false since you can't really add new graphics in the same engine.

And like I said in my last post, we don't know if its really a FULL game like MS claims.

  • 06.19.2009 10:18 PM PDT

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I think this forum should be focused on discussing the game rather than the price. But that's just some punk 17 year old kid's thoughts what does he really know?

~ii

  • 06.19.2009 10:21 PM PDT

Posted by: dnt noobup Reach
the hardcore fans that are complaining are the tip of the ice berg

sure wel still buy it but people that are not so into halo will not

the price is ridiculous

People that are not so into halo probably wont have halo 3. ODST has Halo 3's multiplayer. Therefore, it will be worth the price.

They probably aren't tha into halo because of the Sci-Fi setting. People that don't like the Sci-Fi setting will probably be attracted to ODST because of the more gritty, urban setting.

  • 06.19.2009 10:23 PM PDT

$20-Campaign
$10-Firefight
$20- Maps and Multiplayer
$10- Halo:Reach Beta Invitation

  • 06.19.2009 10:39 PM PDT
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its going to be 60$ or cheaper so im buying it i dont care man

  • 06.19.2009 10:56 PM PDT

While I agree with you OP, there is one big factor:

This is a forum, where people come to discuss things, price, gameplay, whatever. It is perfectly acceptable for others to say why they think the price is ridiculous.

  • 06.19.2009 11:10 PM PDT
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the funny thing is, almost all of the people saying they wont buy it will with out a doubt buy it

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well the price is good but for the limited edition thats pretty good because u get sgt johnson or if you dont pre order from game stop. you will still get a wireless controller from the limited edition

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man u guys dont get it...its a game with campaign, firefight, theater, all map packs, new game reach, and RECON wat more do u want and why do u deserve it in other words 3 games for the price of 1 like the OP said quit complaining


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  • 06.19.2009 11:37 PM PDT

Effort? Its the same engine[/quote]

The Unreal 2 engine is used to make many games, including GoW2. Using a prexisting engine is commonly used. There is a lot more to a game then justs the engine it uses. And I'm sick of the flame and blams tat R G01nG 0n 1n 4 H4h L0L 3 F0RuM. L3T5 PuT T3H Fl4m3 Sw0rD 4w4Y 4nD b3 D0n3 w1Th Th15 Bl4m!

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As a great man has said before "..." That is where the truth lies my friends

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Posted by: The elite legen
the price is fine.. people have to stop complaining. they think the game is just an expansion to H3, it's not... its an entirely different game, characters, everything. If they have a problem then they better do some research on the game, the development, the sleepness nights, everything that is put into a game.


This is exactly what I mean. What is there not to get? WE ALREADY HAVE HALO3'S MULTIPLAYER AND THE MAPS.

MICROSOFT THEMSELVES SAID THE GAME ITSELF IS NOT WORTH 60$. ITS WORTH 60$ BECAUSE OF THE MULTIPLAYER AND MAPS (WHICH I ALREADY HAVE).
[caps to see if you understand now]



Did you ever think about the people that have Halo, but no Xbox Live, but still want some new maps, There are more people than you believe there are, sir.

  • 06.20.2009 12:40 AM PDT

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Posted by: The_omen
Posted by: The elite legen
the price is fine.. people have to stop complaining. they think the game is just an expansion to H3, it's not... its an entirely different game, characters, everything. If they have a problem then they better do some research on the game, the development, the sleepness nights, everything that is put into a game.


This is exactly what I mean. What is there not to get? WE ALREADY HAVE HALO3'S MULTIPLAYER AND THE MAPS.

MICROSOFT THEMSELVES SAID THE GAME ITSELF IS NOT WORTH 60$. ITS WORTH 60$ BECAUSE OF THE MULTIPLAYER AND MAPS (WHICH I ALREADY HAVE).
[caps to see if you understand now]



Did you ever think about the people that have Halo, but no Xbox Live, but still want some new maps, There are more people than you believe there are, sir.


And that's good. But STILL none of you guys get it.

PLEASE READ THIS POST:

Microsoft stated that the game is 60$ becuase of Halo3's multi and the map packs (that was part of the price), but what If I already have that? What does that mean. It means I'm paying for it twice right??

However, if the game comes out to be more than what I think it is, then its more than a real game, its a bargain. But so far we have no proof that its a full game except that its about 4-6 hours long.

  • 06.20.2009 3:50 AM PDT

In my opinion, the $60/£30 (woo hoo!) is a fantastic price.

Think of Halo 3: ODST as a stand-alone game. No Halo 3 tie-ins, nothing. You get two game discs, one with a fantatic Multiplayer, 27 maps, a Custom Game area, a Map Editor/Creator and a Theater.

On top of that, you have another disc with a Campaign, a brand new co-op game mode, Theater and access to a Multiplayer Beta for a brand new completely different game.

That's way more that $60.

Even though we already have almost all of one of the discs, imagine the value that some people will get if they don't have Halo 3, and buy Halo 3: ODST without it.



[Edited on 06.20.2009 5:27 AM PDT]

  • 06.20.2009 5:26 AM PDT
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Posted by: LoftierRelic
In my opinion, the $60/£30 (woo hoo!) is a fantastic price.

Think of Halo 3: ODST as a stand-alone game. No Halo 3 tie-ins, nothing. You get two game discs, one with a fantatic Multiplayer, 27 maps, a Custom Game area, a Map Editor/Creator and a Theater.

On top of that, you have another disc with a Campaign, a brand new co-op game mode, Theater and access to a Multiplayer Beta for a brand new completely different game.

That's way more that $60.

Even though we already have almost all of one of the discs, imagine the value that some people will get if they don't have Halo 3, and buy Halo 3: ODST without it.


You're European so your opinion is biased because you're paying 40$ for it. So yes, its MORE than worth it for you. Congratz.

Even though, I'll still take your opinion into consideration.

Think of Halo 3: ODST as a stand-alone game. No Halo 3 tie-ins, nothing. You get two game discs, one with a fantatic Multiplayer, 27 maps, a Custom Game area, a Map Editor/Creator and a Theater

On top of that, you have another disc with a Campaign, a brand new co-op game mode, Theater and access to a Multiplayer Beta for a brand new completely different game.


That's nice. Let me just take off all the things I already have. Let's see what we're left with.

3 maps

Campaign, a brand new co-op game mode

(I took off the beta because its an invitation and not something I should be paying for)

So based on this, I'm paying 60$ for a (yet to be confirmed full-game-standard) campaign, co-op mode, and three maps.

Is it worth it? No. Not for me.

[Edited on 06.20.2009 8:20 AM PDT]

  • 06.20.2009 8:18 AM PDT
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Pffft! I don't have any problem with the price, and as far as I'm concerned, I think they should charge more. A lot of the people complaining about the price probably don't know anything about the effort involved with making such an awesome looking game, there's a lot more to it than putting an ODST in a big room with lots of pretty buildings and aliens.

Every Bungie employee, I salute you, gods among game developers!



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  • 06.20.2009 8:20 AM PDT

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