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A read your post, but all i saw was "whine whine whine moan groan whine".

  • 06.19.2009 8:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sp4rt4n119
Thank you sir, that was an epic rendition of this topic.


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and how!

I'm really sorry for posting this again, but it ended up as being the last post on the page, and I just spent about 15 minutes typing all of it out to this fool, not quite sure why I did it, but I would like it if that didn't go all to waste.

Dear Lord...did you really just say all that?

Were that post a boat on a lake all those holes would leave you at the bottom chit-chatting it up with your new fishy buddies.

Yes, i call it Halo 3 Recon because that's the title they announce it as at E3. I am a true BUNGIE fan, so i'm going to stick by what they called it until (obvious) legal action forced them to change the game's name to ODST

Halo 3: Atlas and Halo 3: Recon were code names for the game...Halo 3: ODST is a title that makes much more sense, you know, considering the fact that it is all about Orbital Drop Shock Troopers. Clearly that must mean Microsoft has taken "obvious legal action" against Bungie studios to change the name to something that would promote Microsoft more. [That was sarcasm if you're a little slow on the uptake.]

Alright, Johnson has VISR mode even though he doesn't have a Helmet. BUNGIE's response to this was ''it's a game, deal with it, he still has VISR mode''. Meaning, BUNGIE isn't being serious about the game's storyline in ODST.

...

And now, Microsoft wants to tackle EB GAMES directly as they do not want them to get any more money from USED GAME Sales, since bungie doesn't get any money from it (BUNGIE HAS stated in the past 'we should never stop getting money for a game'). To do this? They take the most popular human, Sgt. Johnson, and make him unlockable in Firefight. This obviously wasn't bungie's idea, at all.


This is the part that gets me the most. You seriously believe that? Fans have been asking to play as Sergeant Major Avery J. Johnson since his badass introduction in Halo 1. Bungie added being able to play as him as a fun gift to the fans, and in order for him having a HUD and VISR mode to make sense, he would have to be wearing a helmet. Which would greatly detract from the entire point of his inclusion, not being able to see his face. Not to mention that if he didn't have a HUD or VISR mode, no one would play as him. And for the last God Damned time, Multiplayer has ABSOLUTELY NO CANONCIAL RELEVANCE TO THE STORYLINE. The only things related to the storyline in multiplayer are the characters, weapons, and some of the locations. The situations and gameplay DO NOT need to follow the story. If they did, Multiplayer would have to be Marines vs. Covenant. Only. And that would have no balance were it to follow the story. Gee, that one wasn't obvious. Not at all. [More sarcasm! omgftlulzbbq]

As for "Microsoft trying to steal from EB games" or however you wish to state that nonsense, companies have been doing pre-order bonuses for quite some time. On every console. That has no correlation with Microsoft hating EB games or Gamestop, it is a way for companies to encourage early sales and to get a little bit more money for extras like golden weapons or a special multiplayer character.

The story's going to fail for this reason, as I think the singleplayer campaign is taking a LOT of lessons from Modern Warfare (an obvious demand by 'microsoft' that halo must take on modern warfare BEFORE It's sequel gets released in November).

Once again, players have been asking for more urban combat since they trekked through New Mombasa in Halo 2. Bungie delivered, you found reasons to whine and point your cheeto-cheesy fingers. On top of that, how does futuristic urban combat have ANY relevance to modern warfare? Oh, duh. Marines fight in urban situations. That obviously means Bungie is stealing from the armed forces ideas. [Are you seeing a pattern yet? End a response with sarcasm to point out obvious holes!]

Microsoft realized people didn't like to feel all too powerful, and wanted to feel weak and had to use skill and stealth to get through situations, all obvious factors evident in Halo 3 ODST

You really are just trying to make the kind folks at Bungie [who, by the way, created nearly the entirety of Halo 3: ODST out of fan made requests...] look like ragdolls that can't devise any ideas themselves? Am I right? People want to play as ODSTs. ODSTs are MUCH weaker than Spartans, and hence, need to think about their encounters and gain any upper-hand they can in order to survive.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Microsoft is pulling ALL of the strings on the Halo series from now on. BUNGIE has said ODST will be their last halo game, but now they announce they'll be making 'HALO:REACH' after 'Halo Wars' had HORRIBLE Sales. What does that mean? It means Microsoft realized Halo needed BUNGIE to survive, and now is forcing them, through increased pay wages, to continue supporting the halo series.

Hah. That is a good one. Microsoft has been asking things of Bungie since Halo 1, and they most certainly aren't "pulling ALL the strings".

Bungie never once said that Halo 3: ODST would be their final Halo game, they have had Halo 3: ODST, Halo: Reach, and their other secret Halo project planned for quite some time now, in fact they worked the rights to those productions into their contract with Microsoft when they sold the IP to Halo over to Microsoft. Halo Wars had "HORRIBLE" sales because it was an RTS game, it sold a lot of copies due to being a Halo game, but it isn't a very serious RTS game, and hence it appeals to Halo fans more than RTS fans. And of course Halo games are best made by Bungie...they know everything about Halo and much, much more. Shouldn't that be obvious?

  • 06.19.2009 8:47 PM PDT

Four shots, four kills, reload, repeat. This is the work of a sniper.

1. There is no proof that Microsoft forced the name change, it could be that Bungie decided to change it because it was being associated more with the armor than the actual game. That doesn't make you a true fanboy, that makes you an idiot. If you were a true fan, you would be getting the game regardless.

2. OMG, for the last time, it doesn't matter if he doesn't have a F%^king helmet.

3. That is completely an opinion, there is no solid fact there, you have no obvious reason for the single player to fail.

4. Once again, no proof. You have no reason to believe that it was Microsofts opinion to change character traits.

5. No God damn proof, people have been wanting Johnson for a long time.

6. They said it would be their last game in the Halo trilogy, being Master Chiefs encounter with the Halo rings and that storyline and adventure, not that it would be the end of Halo games forever.

[Edited on 06.19.2009 8:50 PM PDT]

  • 06.19.2009 8:49 PM PDT

http://www.forgehub.com/forum/aesthetic-maps/68563-sphinx.htm l#post850282
http://www.forgehub.com/forum/competitive-maps/69714-coventry .html#post860181
http://www.forgehub.com/forum/competitive-maps/69421-ivory-to wer-h3.html#post857275
http://www.forgehub.com/forum/competitive-maps/69648-hangem-h igh.html#post859461
http://www.bungie.net/Online/Halo3UserContentDetails.aspx?h3f ileid=75416482
http://www.forgehub.com/forum/competitive-maps/69452-blamnati on-h1.html#post857500

1. You are a troll
2. Bungie never said that halo 3 ODST was their last halo game
3. Bungie didn't make halo wars
4. The halo series is great and you are freaking out about johnson being able to use his visr without a helmet
5. Microsoft isn't forcing bungie to make any games. halo reach and halo: 3 ODST were created by bungie and are made by bungie. Not microsoft
6. Its a -blam!- game

  • 06.19.2009 8:49 PM PDT

Posted by: x MibZ x
I'm really sorry for posting this again, but it ended up as being the last post on the page, and I just spent about 15 minutes typing all of it out to this fool, not quite sure why I did it, but I would like it if that didn't go all to waste.

Dear Lord...did you really just say all that?

Were that post a boat on a lake all those holes would leave you at the bottom chit-chatting it up with your new fishy buddies.

Yes, i call it Halo 3 Recon because that's the title they announce it as at E3. I am a true BUNGIE fan, so i'm going to stick by what they called it until (obvious) legal action forced them to change the game's name to ODST

Halo 3: Atlas and Halo 3: Recon were code names for the game...Halo 3: ODST is a title that makes much more sense, you know, considering the fact that it is all about Orbital Drop Shock Troopers. Clearly that must mean Microsoft has taken "obvious legal action" against Bungie studios to change the name to something that would promote Microsoft more. [That was sarcasm if you're a little slow on the uptake.]

Alright, Johnson has VISR mode even though he doesn't have a Helmet. BUNGIE's response to this was ''it's a game, deal with it, he still has VISR mode''. Meaning, BUNGIE isn't being serious about the game's storyline in ODST.

...

And now, Microsoft wants to tackle EB GAMES directly as they do not want them to get any more money from USED GAME Sales, since bungie doesn't get any money from it (BUNGIE HAS stated in the past 'we should never stop getting money for a game'). To do this? They take the most popular human, Sgt. Johnson, and make him unlockable in Firefight. This obviously wasn't bungie's idea, at all.


This is the part that gets me the most. You seriously believe that? Fans have been asking to play as Sergeant Major Avery J. Johnson since his badass introduction in Halo 1. Bungie added being able to play as him as a fun gift to the fans, and in order for him having a HUD and VISR mode to make sense, he would have to be wearing a helmet. Which would greatly detract from the entire point of his inclusion, not being able to see his face. Not to mention that if he didn't have a HUD or VISR mode, no one would play as him. And for the last God Damned time, Multiplayer has ABSOLUTELY NO CANONCIAL RELEVANCE TO THE STORYLINE. The only things related to the storyline in multiplayer are the characters, weapons, and some of the locations. The situations and gameplay DO NOT need to follow the story. If they did, Multiplayer would have to be Marines vs. Covenant. Only. And that would have no balance were it to follow the story. Gee, that one wasn't obvious. Not at all. [More sarcasm! omgftlulzbbq]

As for "Microsoft trying to steal from EB games" or however you wish to state that nonsense, companies have been doing pre-order bonuses for quite some time. On every console. That has no correlation with Microsoft hating EB games or Gamestop, it is a way for companies to encourage early sales and to get a little bit more money for extras like golden weapons or a special multiplayer character.

The story's going to fail for this reason, as I think the singleplayer campaign is taking a LOT of lessons from Modern Warfare (an obvious demand by 'microsoft' that halo must take on modern warfare BEFORE It's sequel gets released in November).

Once again, players have been asking for more urban combat since they trekked through New Mombasa in Halo 2. Bungie delivered, you found reasons to whine and point your cheeto-cheesy fingers. On top of that, how does futuristic urban combat have ANY relevance to modern warfare? Oh, duh. Marines fight in urban situations. That obviously means Bungie is stealing from the armed forces ideas. [Are you seeing a pattern yet? End a response with sarcasm to point out obvious holes!]

Microsoft realized people didn't like to feel all too powerful, and wanted to feel weak and had to use skill and stealth to get through situations, all obvious factors evident in Halo 3 ODST

You really are just trying to make the kind folks at Bungie [who, by the way, created nearly the entirety of Halo 3: ODST out of fan made requests...] look like ragdolls that can't devise any ideas themselves? Am I right? People want to play as ODSTs. ODSTs are MUCH weaker than Spartans, and hence, need to think about their encounters and gain any upper-hand they can in order to survive.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Microsoft is pulling ALL of the strings on the Halo series from now on. BUNGIE has said ODST will be their last halo game, but now they announce they'll be making 'HALO:REACH' after 'Halo Wars' had HORRIBLE Sales. What does that mean? It means Microsoft realized Halo needed BUNGIE to survive, and now is forcing them, through increased pay wages, to continue supporting the halo series.

Hah. That is a good one. Microsoft has been asking things of Bungie since Halo 1, and they most certainly aren't "pulling ALL the strings".

Bungie never once said that Halo 3: ODST would be their final Halo game, they have had Halo 3: ODST, Halo: Reach, and their other secret Halo project planned for quite some time now, in fact they worked the rights to those productions into their contract with Microsoft when they sold the IP to Halo over to Microsoft. Halo Wars had "HORRIBLE" sales because it was an RTS game, it sold a lot of copies due to being a Halo game, but it isn't a very serious RTS game, and hence it appeals to Halo fans more than RTS fans. And of course Halo games are best made by Bungie...they know everything about Halo and much, much more. Shouldn't that be obvious?
This man deserves to be quoted. Damn straight.

  • 06.19.2009 8:51 PM PDT

Charge...BACKWARDS!

they're not being serious with it because YOU'RE the one getting johnson, and pre-ordering the game. And he isn't even in single player, only in firefight. They added him for a bonus, honestly, get over it.

  • 06.19.2009 8:53 PM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

Don't buy it then.

  • 06.19.2009 8:55 PM PDT

True Fan? lol what a joke... scrub....

  • 06.19.2009 9:06 PM PDT

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Wow. Big -blam!- deal. Johnson has a helmet. This isn't your beloved CoD or anything. This is Halo. Where amazing happens.


And, Ensemble made Halo Wars, not Bungie, jackass.

  • 06.19.2009 9:11 PM PDT

Posted by: Zombie Governor
Yes, i call it Halo 3 Recon because that's the title they announce it as at E3. I am a true BUNGIE fan, so i'm going to stick by what they called it until (obvious) legal action forced them to change the game's name to ODST
_____

Alright, Johnson has VISR mode even though he doesn't have a Helmet. BUNGIE's response to this was ''it's a game, deal with it, he still has VISR mode''. Meaning, BUNGIE isn't being serious about the game's storyline in ODST.

The story's going to fail for this reason, as I think the singleplayer campaign is taking a LOT of lessons from Modern Warfare (an obvious demand by 'microsoft' that halo must take on modern warfare BEFORE It's sequel gets released in November).

Microsoft realized people didn't like to feel all too powerful, and wanted to feel weak and had to use skill and stealth to get through situations, all obvious factors evident in Halo 3 ODST

And now, Microsoft wants to tackle EB GAMES directly as they do not want them to get any more money from USED GAME Sales, since bungie doesn't get any money from it (BUNGIE HAS stated in the past 'we should never stop getting money for a game'). To do this? They take the most popular human, Sgt. Johnson, and make him unlockable in Firefight. This obviously wasn't bungie's idea, at all.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Microsoft is pulling ALL of the strings on the Halo series from now on. BUNGIE has said ODST will be their last halo game, but now they announce they'll be making 'HALO:REACH' after 'Halo Wars' had HORRIBLE Sales. What does that mean? It means Microsoft realized Halo needed BUNGIE to survive, and now is forcing them, through increased pay wages, to continue supporting the halo series.

Yep. Microsoft is officially milking Halo. I'm getting off of this crazy train before it crashes. Peace.




Where to start, Halo Wars wasn't made by bungie, it was made by ensemble studios. Halo Wars had decent sales, just not in comparison to the top shooting games. It changed from recon because ODST fits it much more. Sgt. Johnson to be playable has been asked for by fans for years, bungie is all about the fans. They did not say ODST was their last game, they said it could be. They started working on reach near the announcement of ODST, thus it obviously cannot be so

  • 06.19.2009 9:14 PM PDT

Johnson has Optic implants that enable him to have a hud.

This thread really steams me up.

  • 06.19.2009 9:18 PM PDT
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Will sonic ever die?!

They are one with the chief.

  • 06.19.2009 9:20 PM PDT

Posted by: Bluesman
Also, a few of us were talking during matchmaking and Halo: Reach is definitely going to be, not a first person shooter, not a third person shooter, but a second person shooter. Bungie is going to revolutionize the way you watch other people play games.

The OP is a wonderful mix of gross extrapolation, incorrect guesses, conspiracy theories and information that is just plain wrong. Quite the medley, really.

Though, let it be stated again that 60 bucks is way too much for this game, though I of course am a hypocrite; I will still be buying it, albeit begrudgingly.

  • 06.19.2009 9:21 PM PDT

Three words. Get. Over. It.

  • 06.19.2009 9:24 PM PDT

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OH NO! Realism sacrificed for more fun? What the hell Bungie!

  • 06.19.2009 9:25 PM PDT

Posted by: Zombie Governor

Alright, Johnson has VISR mode even though he doesn't have a Helmet. BUNGIE's response to this was ''it's a game, deal with it, he still has VISR mode''. Meaning, BUNGIE isn't being serious about the game's storyline in ODST.


YEAH. You know what else is BS? The fact that the game takes place in space, like, that's SO FAR FETCHED. And how you respawn after you die? That would never happen in real life. Oh yeah, and like how you can get shot in the face and not die? That's so BS.

Think about what you're saying. Please.

  • 06.19.2009 9:29 PM PDT

Blah.

I just got the feeling that maybe this guy is ultra ocd about evertything and thinks that everbody should agree with him just because of one little detail..epic fail dude..epic fail..

  • 06.19.2009 9:30 PM PDT
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Time to turn off xbox and go outside and get a life.
Posted by: Zombie Governor
Yes, i call it Halo 3 Recon because that's the title they announce it as at E3. I am a true BUNGIE fan, so i'm going to stick by what they called it until (obvious) legal action forced them to change the game's name to ODST
_____

Alright, Johnson has VISR mode even though he doesn't have a Helmet. BUNGIE's response to this was ''it's a game, deal with it, he still has VISR mode''. Meaning, BUNGIE isn't being serious about the game's storyline in ODST.

The story's going to fail for this reason, as I think the singleplayer campaign is taking a LOT of lessons from Modern Warfare (an obvious demand by 'microsoft' that halo must take on modern warfare BEFORE It's sequel gets released in November).

Microsoft realized people didn't like to feel all too powerful, and wanted to feel weak and had to use skill and stealth to get through situations, all obvious factors evident in Halo 3 ODST

And now, Microsoft wants to tackle EB GAMES directly as they do not want them to get any more money from USED GAME Sales, since bungie doesn't get any money from it (BUNGIE HAS stated in the past 'we should never stop getting money for a game'). To do this? They take the most popular human, Sgt. Johnson, and make him unlockable in Firefight. This obviously wasn't bungie's idea, at all.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? Microsoft is pulling ALL of the strings on the Halo series from now on. BUNGIE has said ODST will be their last halo game, but now they announce they'll be making 'HALO:REACH' after 'Halo Wars' had HORRIBLE Sales. What does that mean? It means Microsoft realized Halo needed BUNGIE to survive, and now is forcing them, through increased pay wages, to continue supporting the halo series.

Yep. Microsoft is officially milking Halo. I'm getting off of this crazy train before it crashes. Peace.

  • 06.19.2009 9:32 PM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

See, people like the OP are the ones who annoy me so much. "I'm a true fan of Bungie", yet he knows nothing about the storyline(probably hasn't read the books), makes retarded assumptions and flames Bungie because they didn't make the game how he wants it.

No matter what Bungie does, someone, somewhere, will find a reason to whine about it.

[Edited on 06.19.2009 9:37 PM PDT]

  • 06.19.2009 9:36 PM PDT

To answer your question: Yup, I was naked!

I was going to make a long response like the other people here, but I think this little statement makes it a whole lot easier:

Your a retard.

[Edited on 06.19.2009 9:41 PM PDT]

  • 06.19.2009 9:39 PM PDT
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i guess fridays is internet night at the mental institution

  • 06.19.2009 9:44 PM PDT

Were it so easy.

I somewhat agree OP.

  • 06.19.2009 11:04 PM PDT

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He has VISR in MP (Firefight). Why are you saying bungie's not paying attention to the game? Did you say the same for Halo 3 because its MP has a low gravity option on High Ground?

  • 06.19.2009 11:10 PM PDT
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you are an idiot on many levels

  • 06.19.2009 11:13 PM PDT

dont buy it then see if we care
Also ive met kids 3-7 years of age smarter than you, so act your age not your IQ

  • 06.19.2009 11:26 PM PDT