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Subject: Why forgable Fire Fight maps are possible.

Peace is a lie,
there is only passion
through passion i gain strength
through strength i gain power
through power i gain victory,
through victor my chains are broken,
the force will free me.
Rule of two.
There should be two. no more no less,
one to embody the power, and one to crave it.

Dude i am totally with you ALL the way on this. Im sure every one of you have played on some stupid map in foundry where your side has a magnum and 2 plasma pistols and their side has 3 rockets a spartan laser and respawning over shields.. But then again im sure you have played on maps expertly layed out and making it fair for both teams with the deisgners own added flavor to the map. So the argument "they will spawn boxes where the covenant spawn" is kind of a moot point... if they wish to do this and ruin their game play (assuming custom games dont get "registered" on bungi.net) thats totally fine with me. And of chores some amazing soles with create marvelous maps where you either have little cover or you can get power weapons but you have to go to or near the enemy spawn. So just like todays forge in halo 3 people are going to make crappy maps that guess what? YOU DONT HAVE TO PLAY ON THEM!!!! And some people will make masterpieces that have over 50mill downloads. End of disscussion

  • 06.22.2009 7:05 AM PDT

Stuffz....

I don't think people are boosting, because u can only play forged maps on costums, so if u play firefight in matchmaking (even if we have that mode) then u can't achievement boost

  • 06.22.2009 7:06 AM PDT

Well said!!! Just case it might not happen does not mean we can talk about it! and wish.... I have played some great maps and some not so great maps, but it has kept me playing HALO 3 and have already ordered the ODST game. It has done the job I think!



Posted by: DarthBane5333
Dude i am totally with you ALL the way on this. Im sure every one of you have played on some stupid map in foundry where your side has a magnum and 2 plasma pistols and their side has 3 rockets a spartan laser and respawning over shields.. But then again im sure you have played on maps expertly layed out and making it fair for both teams with the deisgners own added flavor to the map. So the argument "they will spawn boxes where the covenant spawn" is kind of a moot point... if they wish to do this and ruin their game play (assuming custom games dont get "registered" on bungi.net) thats totally fine with me. And of chores some amazing soles with create marvelous maps where you either have little cover or you can get power weapons but you have to go to or near the enemy spawn. So just like todays forge in halo 3 people are going to make crappy maps that guess what? YOU DONT HAVE TO PLAY ON THEM!!!! And some people will make masterpieces that have over 50mill downloads. End of disscussion


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Forge... and Covenant?

... My dream!

  • 06.22.2009 7:10 AM PDT

Peace is a lie,
there is only passion
through passion i gain strength
through strength i gain power
through power i gain victory,
through victor my chains are broken,
the force will free me.
Rule of two.
There should be two. no more no less,
one to embody the power, and one to crave it.

Posted by: Melkorpwn
Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
Find the player, and kill them while avoiding obstacles


But people could make a box of unmovable walls around their spawn area, so the Covenant would never get to them. Sorry if someone said this already.


About 30 poeple said this and it makes no sense? Have you ever forged on guardian? Last resort? narrows? construct? and about 80% of the other maps? Did you know and this may shock you but none of those maps have ANYTHING permenant on them!!! The hardest thing to move on any of theose maps is a crate... have you ever played campaign and seen a hunter try to get to you? nothing stops em

  • 06.22.2009 7:11 AM PDT

O my Goodness!!! Why can you not get it in your head, that yes you could do that but why would you do it!!! Like someone had said you would not be able to kill them, so..... you are now stuck on that level well done your dumb!!!


Posted by: VEF214

You can technically have permanent things if you manipulate the objects with weapon holders and teleporters, though. Also if you put the respawn to instant that would be pretty hard for the Covenant to get through.

  • 06.22.2009 7:28 AM PDT

Peace is a lie,
there is only passion
through passion i gain strength
through strength i gain power
through power i gain victory,
through victor my chains are broken,
the force will free me.
Rule of two.
There should be two. no more no less,
one to embody the power, and one to crave it.

there are 2 phantoms that drop off troops in diff places some wraths and 70 troops a wave there are 8 weapon holders per map IN halo 3 thers no way you can cage them all and i wouldent see a need for telllaporters on a fire firefight map i mean from what i have seen they are pretty small maps.

  • 06.22.2009 7:29 AM PDT

Don't confuse me with anyone normal.

everyone is gonna spawn boxes and hit them with rpgs to see the bodies fly, that would be fun if Im feeling down and I want cheap entertainment.

I would reduce the amount of weapons and increase the spawn rate just to see how quickly I would lose... or how epic my win would be...

  • 06.22.2009 7:30 AM PDT

Why are some people being soooo closed minded!!1 This is not a this is what is beening done, this is a could be!!! the OP did not say this was the case, but what could be done!

Open your mind to something different, and stop walking off the cliff like a LEMMING

  • 06.22.2009 7:32 AM PDT

Peace is a lie,
there is only passion
through passion i gain strength
through strength i gain power
through power i gain victory,
through victor my chains are broken,
the force will free me.
Rule of two.
There should be two. no more no less,
one to embody the power, and one to crave it.

Posted by: Kenji Hiamato
everyone is gonna spawn boxes and hit them with rpgs to see the bodies fly, that would be fun if Im feeling down and I want cheap entertainment.

I would reduce the amount of weapons and increase the spawn rate just to see how quickly I would lose... or how epic my win would be...


ummm no..... thats a big word EVER ONE.. if every one did that custom maps in bungie slayer on sandbox would be 30rocket launchers on each side....

And some people are going to make AMAZING maps as i have always stated

[Edited on 06.22.2009 7:37 AM PDT]

  • 06.22.2009 7:34 AM PDT

Peace is a lie,
there is only passion
through passion i gain strength
through strength i gain power
through power i gain victory,
through victor my chains are broken,
the force will free me.
Rule of two.
There should be two. no more no less,
one to embody the power, and one to crave it.

Posted by: ClassicalDonkey
Why are some people being soooo closed minded!!1 This is not a this is what is beening done, this is a could be!!! the OP did not say this was the case, but what could be done!

Open your mind to something different, and stop walking off the cliff like a LEMMING

Dude i dont know all of them are making what they think are good arguments but they are all encounterd in halo 3 in one way or another

  • 06.22.2009 7:38 AM PDT

Don't confuse me with anyone normal.

lol ok ok you got a point....

  • 06.22.2009 7:38 AM PDT

Peace is a lie,
there is only passion
through passion i gain strength
through strength i gain power
through power i gain victory,
through victor my chains are broken,
the force will free me.
Rule of two.
There should be two. no more no less,
one to embody the power, and one to crave it.

What did i win? no one is going to argue my points?

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it would be easier than people think to forge a firefight map, the only differance would be a covenent respwan point. and putting the spawn point under a box would just cause them to fall on the box. so there would be no cheaters

  • 06.22.2009 8:16 AM PDT

Posted by: DarthBane5333
What did i win? no one is going to argue my points?



urm...... your wrong.... so wrong LOL

  • 06.22.2009 8:24 AM PDT

Posted by: dafin02
Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
About the AI paths, they do not need to have set paths, all they need is a code that gives them this command:

Find the player, and kill them while avoiding obstacles


oh thats just too cute


IDK what ur saying is cute because thats the way Urk put it.

I think this is a great idea because all this stuff could be implemented into the game.

even if Bungie added a last second forge thing to fire fight and just updated it to make the forge better after they got some feedback.

  • 06.22.2009 9:29 AM PDT

Without me, it's just "Aweso".

Posted by: dafin02
Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
About the AI paths, they do not need to have set paths, all they need is a code that gives them this command:

Find the player, and kill them while avoiding obstacles


oh thats just too cute

It's usually polite to explain yourself when insulting someone.

And great Idea Inkognito, although seeing as people's expectations for a forged map have been raised quite a bit since Sandbox's release, some are bound to be disappointed.

  • 06.22.2009 9:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
People will block off the AI, and cheat

As stated in the first reason, this is a CUSTOM GAME. Why does it matter what people do in a custom game? It is their problem if they want to ruin the game for themselves, not our, and not Bungies.

Bungie has stated that ODST will include GLOBAL leader boards. Those who play an honest game and set the record at 85 levels (for example) should enjoy the notoriety which comes with sitting atop the leader board. Such folks shouldn't have to share the light with people who forge their way to the top.

[Edited on 06.22.2009 10:27 AM PDT]

  • 06.22.2009 10:27 AM PDT

Posted by: bigturns00
Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
People will block off the AI, and cheat

As stated in the first reason, this is a CUSTOM GAME. Why does it matter what people do in a custom game? It is their problem if they want to ruin the game for themselves, not our, and not Bungies.

Bungie has stated that ODST will include GLOBAL leader boards. Those who play an honest game and set the record at 85 levels (for example) should enjoy the notoriety which comes with sitting atop the leader board. Such folks shouldn't have to share the light with people who forge their way to the top.


Make a different leaderboard for Custom, then wait for some idiots to make a map that they will never lose on and then lose on it because they forgot to put ammo drops and the covenant are to far away to get weapons from.

  • 06.22.2009 10:32 AM PDT

Well there are areas on maps where if you place a permanent object it just deletes itself. So if they added something like that to the maps then it could work....

  • 06.22.2009 10:46 AM PDT

I was in 5th grade. I popped in the Halo CE disc into the massive, clunky first generation Microsoft Xbox, and wrapped my small hands around the controller that was almost too big for me. Little did I know what I was getting into.

10+ years later, I still look up to my childhood hero, Master Chief, while everyone talks about He Man and Spongebob haha


Live life son. www.youtube.com/user/MadeInAsiaFilms

I agree with the OP.

Achievements in custom firefight forge could be disabled, etc.

But what most people don't understand is that this is still basically forge, but with AI. In layman's terms, You don't have to play the stupid maps if you don't want to!!!

Who cares if people are getting cheap kills or w/e? It's purely for their own enjoyment, nothing more, nothing less. Who cares about the AI's feelings? They're machines. Without love.

Lastly, just like forge, this allows for immense opportunity to create maps beyond our imagination. And just like forge, there may be stupid maps, and there may be great ones, but it''s your decision, as a human being, as a person with rights, a member of the community to download the map and play it; or not.

There's no video game fascism in the works here. Why should you care if some numbnut blocked off the AI? He can't achievements. The way I see it, the pros far outweigh the cons.

  • 06.22.2009 10:52 AM PDT

Guys look. If somebody cheats, people will know it. Especially since it was done on a forged map and in a custom game.

Sure, we have played those maps that have infinite respawning fusion coils. But who cares? We have also played amazing maps that are mind blowing.

It is your choice to play a cheat map, or to play a fun different map.

Guys don't flame.

[Edited on 06.22.2009 10:58 AM PDT]

  • 06.22.2009 10:57 AM PDT

It's ridiculous how low you self-esteem level is compared to mine.

i really really wish they would put forge into fire fight. seriously, that would be so freakin fun. If people think it will "take the fun out of fire fight", then go back to playing halo 3 or odst campaign. seriously. don't blame your lack of fun on an EXTRA feature bungie could put into ODST. Just leave it alone if you don't want to play it.

  • 06.22.2009 10:57 AM PDT