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Subject: Will the silencer actually WORK like a silencer?
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Posted by: Owns 4 fun
Actually, the term Silencer is misleading, it should be called a suppressor, if you are familiar with firearms, you would know that Suppressors are used to hide the muzzle flash, and does not make the gun quieter, this is how modern firearms work, such as a Suppressed MP5. This also means that enemies in the area surrounding the firing of such a weapon would be alerted to the presence of a enemy combatant, but not the location.

I am aware that this could have changed within the 500 years time difference, but if you watch gameplay, the sound made by the gun is not quieter then the normal gun.

So please dont get you knowledge of weapons from CoD 4 and get it from real life.


This is so wrong. Yes, the technical term is a supressor but it is used to hides muzzle flash and to reduce muzzle crack. I have used supressors a lot and can tell you for a fact that most weapons will be reduced in sound to just the noise of the bolt cycling and the next round chanbering. This can be a pretty loud noise but it is nothing compared to the crack of a bullet leaving the muzzle..
Also, if a supressor is merely to hide muzzle flash then why make them for air weapons on which they are highly effecient?
It should also be noted that supressors are ilegal in the States so anyone from there who is not in the military/police or ex of these really doesn't know what they are talking about.

  • 06.21.2009 8:00 AM PDT
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Posted by: nOOb elimanter
A silencer doesn't completely quiet the gun it reduces muzzle flash and slightly redcucing the sound, with a silencer a gun's sound measures at 5.2 decibeles, opposing a unsilenced gun at 5.4 decibeles.


Sorry for double posting but what is this? What a completley arbitrary statement! What weapon are you quoting? Subsonic or supersonic rounds? Besides which that is a ridiclously low level of sound for any small arm. As an aside, a decibel is not actually a measure of sound but a differance in sound levels. This is a common misconception played on by audio visual equipment manufacturers.

  • 06.21.2009 8:07 AM PDT

to add to that in the e3 beta the "suppressor" silenced the gun yet there was no muzzle flash but ,u cant tell about the socom part of the gun from the videos because every one ive seen play on youtube just goes in down and dirty but i think its gonna silence it but ur gonna be noticed .

  • 06.21.2009 8:21 AM PDT
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More for show i think.

  • 06.21.2009 2:21 PM PDT

Four shots, four kills, reload, repeat. This is the work of a sniper.

I think it doesn't draw as much attention, but it still can draw some.

  • 06.21.2009 2:24 PM PDT

"YOUR DESTRUCTION IS THE WILL OF THE GODS, AND WE ARE THEIR INSTRUMENT."

Maybe silencers in the future are just to make weapons silent, not to keep you off radar.

  • 06.21.2009 2:25 PM PDT

Im pretty sure bungie could make it so that the silenced smg and auto mag dont alert enemies. Theres this halo custom edition campaign that features a silenced smg, and when you shoot it enemies wont be alerted to your presence.

So if cmt can make a silenced weapon that doesnt alert enemies on the halo 1 engine, im sure bungie can do the same on the halo 3 engine.

  • 06.21.2009 2:33 PM PDT

in halo 1 and maybe the other games if you walked up to a group of sleeping grunts and took then out without any noise then the others would stay sleeping and not alerted to your presence, i think it will work like that

  • 06.21.2009 2:34 PM PDT
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Yeah, I get what you mean about the silencer. If the silencer doesn't actually work then the stealthy idea for the game pretty much fails to be honest.

  • 06.21.2009 2:36 PM PDT

"the shot is roughly as loud as a car door slamming."
Ummm no its not.

  • 06.21.2009 2:37 PM PDT

I hope it works like the silencers in RSV, where you can kill enemies without alerting everyone and I noticed that the weapons are slightly more accurate.

If I stick my head out and shoot a grunt with the silenced pistol and everyone instantly knows where I am( I don't care if they become more alert) than this game fails.

I would be confused if the new scoped SMG was just as inaccurate and pointless as the old one.

  • 06.21.2009 3:15 PM PDT
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Posted by: Owns 4 fun
Actually, the term Silencer is misleading, it should be called a suppressor, if you are familiar with firearms, you would know that Suppressors are used to hide the muzzle flash, and does not make the gun quieter, this is how modern firearms work, such as a Suppressed MP5. This also means that enemies in the area surrounding the firing of such a weapon would be alerted to the presence of a enemy combatant, but not the location.

I am aware that this could have changed within the 500 years time difference, but if you watch gameplay, the sound made by the gun is not quieter then the normal gun.

So please dont get you knowledge of weapons from CoD 4 and get it from real life.


you do know how a suppressor works right? combine that with the reason why a gun makes a bang and you'd know that they do in fact work at silencing a gun.

If you only want to eliminate the flash they have equipment to do just that they call them "Flash Suppressors."

silly internet kidz, They dont actually know everything.


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Posted by: Owns 4 fun
Actually, the term Silencer is misleading, it should be called a suppressor, if you are familiar with firearms, you would know that Suppressors are used to hide the muzzle flash, and does not make the gun quieter, this is how modern firearms work, such as a Suppressed MP5. This also means that enemies in the area surrounding the firing of such a weapon would be alerted to the presence of a enemy combatant, but not the location.

I am aware that this could have changed within the 500 years time difference, but if you watch gameplay, the sound made by the gun is not quieter then the normal gun.

So please dont get you knowledge of weapons from CoD 4 and get it from real life.


This is so wrong. Yes, the technical term is a supressor but it is used to hides muzzle flash and to reduce muzzle crack. I have used supressors a lot and can tell you for a fact that most weapons will be reduced in sound to just the noise of the bolt cycling and the next round chanbering. This can be a pretty loud noise but it is nothing compared to the crack of a bullet leaving the muzzle..
Also, if a supressor is merely to hide muzzle flash then why make them for air weapons on which they are highly effecient?
It should also be noted that supressors are ilegal in the States so anyone from there who is not in the military/police or ex of these really doesn't know what they are talking about.

I agree Im not sure how they know all of this when they most likely haven't had the chance to even use one.


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  • 06.21.2009 3:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sp4rt4n119
Thank you sir, that was an epic rendition of this topic.


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and how!

Yes. If you watch some of the E3 presentations the Rookie is mowing down Grunts and the Brute and other Grunts around don't realize where the shots are coming from right away.

  • 06.21.2009 3:58 PM PDT

Well if you listen to the pistol I think it does. I don't know about the SMG though

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Posted by: Sp4rt4n119
Thank you sir, that was an epic rendition of this topic.


Posted by: Xx KNOX xX
and how!

Posted by: nOOb elimanter
A silencer doesn't completely quiet the gun it reduces muzzle flash and slightly redcucing the sound, with a silencer a gun's sound measures at 5.2 decibeles, opposing a unsilenced gun at 5.4 decibeles.


Hahaha! That is a good one!

Where do people come up with this stuff? Seriously...A cat's meow is about 20 decibels, and regular conversation at around 60.

A 12 Gauge shotgun's blast measures at around 165 decibels. If a gun fired at 5.4 decibels to start with it would be about 3 times quieter than a whisper.

If you don't know what you're talking about, don't try to sound like you do.

A flash hider is a device that is attached to the end of a firearm's barrel that displaces the expanding gases in a way that creates less of a "flare" when fired.

A suppressor is a device that muffles both the crack of a firearm as well as its flash. A suppressor relies on a tight seal [the seal must be maintained until the round leaves the barrel, after which the bolt can cycle and chamber a new round without negating the suppressor] with the only opening being the end of the barrel, which is why a revolver cannot be suppressed to any effective amount.

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