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Subject: These Theories about Sam being in the game

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First of all he died before the battle of reach, Now before you argue he was in a number of missions with John. Yes he was but he was in only one mission in the mark IV armor plus this was a good few years before the battle of reach too. Now considering bungie hasn't shown what he looks like I doubt they would ruin that by doing missions 10 or so years before reach.

  • 06.21.2009 6:14 AM PDT

Armor Lock isn't overpowered. You just suck at Reach :)

Reach isn't bad, you're just a BK :)

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As long as you dont say that figure on the left is an elite, then w/e. I really dont know who sam is, but I know that figure is not an elite.

  • 06.21.2009 6:25 AM PDT

"It is impossible to prepare for and prevent a war at the same time"
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I agree, there is absolutely no way that this is sam without going through the exact few chapters of the book where sam had mark 4 armor for less than 5 hours before he died.

Once again, sam died within 5 hours of receiving mark 4 armor, along with all the other spartans.

EDIT: What i meant to say above is that All of the spartans received their mark 4 armor at the same time, not everyone died at the same time. Sorry.

[Edited on 06.21.2009 11:37 AM PDT]

  • 06.21.2009 7:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: shadowhawk1013
I agree, there is absolutely no way that this is sam without going through the exact few chapters of the book where sam had mark 4 armor for less than 5 hours before he died.

Once again, sam died within 5 hours of receiving mark 4 armor, along with all the other spartans.


Umm what? No the other Spartans survived that op.

  • 06.21.2009 8:14 AM PDT

-blam!- GTFO OF MY SIGNATURE

This is exactly what I've been trying to tell everyone.

SAM DIED BEFORE THE FALL OF REACH!

  • 06.21.2009 8:14 AM PDT
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Who cares they're all fake anyways.

  • 06.21.2009 10:16 AM PDT

"if i have seen farther it is by standing on the shoulders of giants" Isaac Newton

Hey, hers an idea what if Halo: Reach is not only about the Fall of Reach but also the intense training they all went through to become spartans On reach, and maybe the reason Sam is in his armor is cause you get to play the mission where Sam died due to his suit breach and a nuke.

  • 06.21.2009 10:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: adoptedflame
Hey, hers an idea what if Halo: Reach is not only about the Fall of Reach but also the intense training they all went through to become spartans On reach, and maybe the reason Sam is in his armor is cause you get to play the mission where Sam died due to his suit breach and a nuke.


Probably even a few missions before that.

Its no doubt that you will get to play with Sam or at least see Sam early in the game.

Why?

Because he dies early in the game. DUH!

This also keeps the logic of 4 player coop. If people actually read the book people wouldn't be saying that it is not Sam.

  • 06.21.2009 10:51 AM PDT

What's up? I'm Anthony, from Maryland. I play a lot of video games, too many. Enjoying the Halo Reach Beat right now. Also Halo was kind of my life from the age of 11-14.

I completely agree with that theory.

  • 06.21.2009 10:57 AM PDT

its better diying with a smile than getting teabag

maybe fall of reach its about their training,first mission,and the raid of reach and watch how sam died ond the covenant ship and see why that affect master chief during the game

  • 06.21.2009 11:14 AM PDT

Being a noob since 2007.

Or maybe the game isn't about the book at all and is something different.
Who knows?
After a teaser trailer it's far too early for theories about the game plotline or the characters.

  • 06.21.2009 11:21 AM PDT

how is john alive if they all died after 5 hours of wearing the mark 4 armour


[Edited on 06.21.2009 11:37 AM PDT]

  • 06.21.2009 11:36 AM PDT

"It is impossible to prepare for and prevent a war at the same time"
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Posted by: shadowhawk1013
I agree, there is absolutely no way that this is sam without going through the exact few chapters of the book where sam had mark 4 armor for less than 5 hours before he died.

Once again, sam died within 5 hours of receiving mark 4 armor, along with all the other spartans.


Umm what? No the other Spartans survived that op.


sorry it came out wrong, I meant to say they received their armor at the same time.

  • 06.21.2009 11:36 AM PDT

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My guess is that it's Will. I believe that there is actually a scene in the book where he is defending the entrance to the base in the mountain with a detached warthog turret.

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  • 06.21.2009 12:19 PM PDT

Obviously Sam was resurrected through black magic. Then, because he was missing body parts, he was patched together with Elite parts. That explains the figure on the left. I would not mind playing as Will, cause he was my favorite Spartan.

  • 06.21.2009 1:30 PM PDT
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Posted by: patar540
My guess is that it's Will. I believe that there is actually a scene in the book where he is defending the entrance to the base in the mountain with a detached warthog turret.

I believe it is Spartan-259 leading a group of 4 Marines, or (unlikely) 4 Spartan-IIIs.

Makes more sense than calling any of those guys up there other than the far left spartans.

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QFT-Sam was the first spartan to die

He was the first successfully augmented Spartan to die, but not the first Spartan to die at all. They were considered "Spartans" since conscription, not just upon graduation, and a lot of them (about half) died during the augmentation procedures.

Anyway, some have also been saying that the game might include events that take place in the earlier years, but for Sam to be alive, those events would have to be before 2525, and considering the name of the game, chances are we'll be focusing on the 2552 events.

And anyway, no one can tell who any of the people in the banner is, so I don't know why people are so up in arms about just Sam. The claims that Kelly, Fred, and Linda are in the banner aren't much more credible either. They're freakin' silhouettes.

  • 06.21.2009 1:38 PM PDT
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QFT-Sam was the first spartan to die

He was the first successfully augmented Spartan to die, but not the first Spartan to die at all. They were considered "Spartans" since conscription, not just upon graduation, and a lot of them (about half) died during the augmentation procedures.

Anyway, some have also been saying that the game might include events that take place in the earlier years, but for Sam to be alive, those events would have to be before 2525, and considering the name of the game, chances are we'll be focusing on the 2552 events.

And anyway, no one can tell who any of the people in the banner is, so I don't know why people are so up in arms about just Sam. The claims that Kelly, Fred, and Linda are in the banner aren't much more credible either. They're freakin' silhouettes.

Especially since there is only one of them up there.

  • 06.21.2009 1:39 PM PDT

Until Bungie says anything about it, no one can know who is up there specifically. The most anyone can say is that they are all humanoid.

  • 06.21.2009 1:46 PM PDT

It's quite obvious the figure on the left is a Forerunner in Class Twelve Combat Skin...

:D

  • 06.21.2009 1:49 PM PDT

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