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Subject: Why exactly did Bungie scrap the Battle Rifle?
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Posted by: Xeena
seh looks like a alen anyway

Even though I am happy the BR isn't going to be in H3ODST, I am curious why Bungie chose to scrap it. Did the new SOCOM Pistol take it's place? Any ideas on this are welcome here! (A Bungie employees would be nice too)

  • 06.21.2009 1:25 PM PDT

Death to rank junkies.

The new pistol replaces it, and it was overpowered. Think about it; 1 burst headshotting two to three grunts took little to no skill. Having to place each shot exactly makes the game much more fun.

  • 06.21.2009 1:27 PM PDT

Probably Gameplay

  • 06.21.2009 1:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: Melkorpwn
The new pistol replaces it, and it was overpowered. Think about it; 1 burst headshotting two to three grunts took little to no skill. Having to place each shot exactly makes the game much more fun.

  • 06.21.2009 1:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: CJ_Bark
Even though I am happy the BR isn't going to be in H3ODST, I am curious why Bungie chose to scrap it. Did the new SOCOM Pistol take it's place? Any ideas on this are welcome here! (A Bungie employees would be nice too)

for -blam!-s and giggles.

  • 06.21.2009 1:30 PM PDT

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Because it was a weapon of mass pwnage in the right hands, and would give the feeling of being a supersoldier again.

  • 06.21.2009 1:31 PM PDT

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Because they want to seperate it from Halo3?

If BR was overpowered, what was SMG? SMG needed scope and silencer?

  • 06.21.2009 1:31 PM PDT

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It is over powered in the Halo 3 campaign. It got addicting, and I would get mad when I ran out of ammo with that gun (annual grrr). Now the pistol will take the role of the BR. I might have to settle with teaming up on Brutes (co-op)

  • 06.21.2009 1:32 PM PDT

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Posted by: Melkorpwn
The new pistol replaces it, and it was overpowered. Think about it; 1 burst headshotting two to three grunts took little to no skill. Having to place each shot exactly makes the game much more fun.

  • 06.21.2009 1:33 PM PDT

I glad that they got rid of the BR. It's nice to use a new weapon instead of the BR for another game. I haven't gotten to use it yet, but It already looks like it will be more fun to use than the BR.


They should scrap that ugly Prowler and bring back the Spectre.

  • 06.21.2009 1:33 PM PDT
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I still think it sucks basketballs that they removed the BR, but as one of my fellow fans of Halo mentioned above, the BR makes the game a hell of alot easier, you can take out enemies from the other end of the map and never even have to engage in close quater combat, which would make the game to easy... But I will have to get used to the new pistol insteed, and I still got my assault rifle, so all is not lost :)

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No one knows for sure, but If I had to guess, it would be because the BR size in the game is intended for Masterchief. Since ODST is in the same engine, and since the model for ODST's is significantly smaller, the BR would look "funny" both in your hud and to other players. A couple of adjustments would probably make it "fit" but Bungie didn't want to "fix" it. Probably because it was either to much work and they saw it wasn't worth wasting that much time to please the hardcore fans, or it created lots of bugs.


Or it was to powerful. Lol

  • 06.21.2009 1:43 PM PDT

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The new pistol and SMG both have scopes and are much more useful in battle. There's no need for the BR.

I wouldn't have minded at least having it as an option to use though.. It would have been nice.

  • 06.21.2009 1:45 PM PDT
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Because Halo CE pistol is badass.

  • 06.21.2009 2:14 PM PDT

Four shots, four kills, reload, repeat. This is the work of a sniper.

Cause the Pistol will come a'rapin!
Seriously, the pistol will take its place.

[Edited on 06.21.2009 2:19 PM PDT]

  • 06.21.2009 2:18 PM PDT

Becouse they planed to replace it with the MR a rifle that looks like the BR but has an infinant supply of missles to fire instead of bullets.
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Posted by: Melkorpwn
The new pistol replaces it, and it was overpowered. Think about it; 1 burst headshotting two to three grunts took little to no skill. Having to place each shot exactly makes the game much more fun.

  • 06.21.2009 2:20 PM PDT

I really don't see the point of adding a 3-burst shot scoped weapon into ODST as we have an automatic scoped weapon and a semi-auto scoped weapon. It just wouldn't make sense.

  • 06.21.2009 2:20 PM PDT

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No one knows for sure, but If I had to guess, it would be because the BR size in the game is intended for Masterchief. Since ODST is in the same engine, and since the model for ODST's is significantly smaller, the BR would look "funny" both in your hud and to other players. A couple of adjustments would probably make it "fit" but Bungie didn't want to "fix" it. Probably because it was either to much work and they saw it wasn't worth wasting that much time to please the hardcore fans, or it created lots of bugs.


Or it was to powerful. Lol


This is probably kind of true. Most guns that aren't dual wieldable look "human sized" when you are Master Chief.

Also use the Carbine. It is just as powerful as the BR and you have unlimited ammunition (as long as you run over dead Jackal and Brute carcasses).

  • 06.21.2009 2:21 PM PDT

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They wanted to focus the spotlight on the SMG and Pistol.

  • 06.21.2009 2:21 PM PDT

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The BR overrun Halo. Everyone demanded it, it ruined maps by making everything long range. Maybe thats what Bungie wanted to get rid of.

  • 06.21.2009 2:21 PM PDT

Posted by: Mikelp_1
The BR overrun Halo. Everyone demanded it, it ruined maps by making everything long range. Maybe thats what Bungie wanted to get rid of.

Agreed. Maybe this change in weapons will change the way the game is played and make it more interesting than just another game where the BR was the only thing most people used.

  • 06.21.2009 2:30 PM PDT

idk maybe bungie has a few more suprises up their sleeve, they always do

  • 06.21.2009 3:01 PM PDT

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The Pistol took its place. And 3 round burst and bullet spread is horrible.

  • 06.21.2009 3:38 PM PDT

Most battles are not won by numbers or more advanced weaponry... they are won by the lives of those forced to fight

would've been cool silenced though

  • 06.21.2009 3:49 PM PDT

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