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Subject: Down With Brutes!
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Poll: Do you want brutes out of the picture?  [closed]
Yes:  60%
(47 Votes)
No:  40%
(31 Votes)
Total Votes: 78

Please Bungie, do not let there be any brutes! I mean no offense in any manner, but brutes are perhaps the lamest enemies you have ever created in the Halo universe (besides drones) !

Elites would be much better enemies. I've read the book so I am aware of the fact that elites did take part in the Fall of Reach, but I really don't feel like fighting another brute...

  • 06.21.2009 3:00 PM PDT

Suck it Red!

Elites are so much funner to kill. I have been re-playing Halo: CE and Elites are much more interesting enemies than Brutes ever where or are.

  • 06.21.2009 3:03 PM PDT

I don't care if brutes aren't in campaign, so long as they leave their abandoned weapons piled neatly in various places across the multiplayer maps.

Especially Spikers. I love spikers. In case you haven't noticed.

  • 06.21.2009 3:04 PM PDT

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No... don't get me wrong, I still want Elites. Just not the stupid Elites from Halo 2 and 3. I want the ones from Halo 1, which were fun (challenging) to fight. I also don't want the stupid Brutes from Halo 2 and 3 back.

I want the Brutes from First Strike. Fight as auxiliary troops (more Elites than Brutes) which actually fight as a pack of grenade-launcher-wielding gorillas would. Tear you limb from limb, not run at you at 3mph waving their arms around.

  • 06.21.2009 3:08 PM PDT

If this was a fair poll; beneath the poll there wouldn't be an argument against Brutes. But oh well. I want them out too, or at least back in their place. I want Brutes to be back in the power hungry position they held in Halo 2.

  • 06.21.2009 3:11 PM PDT

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Every enemy provides a purpose in the way the game plays. Here's a quick run through of what they're supposed to do.

grunts are basically meant to give the user some target practice in the beginning of the game. They offer some laughs now and then based off of their combat dialog, but generally are only meant to be cannon fodder and fill the ranks for larger battles.

Jackals were meant to be similar to grunts, but cause the user to use more strategy while they were fighting. They would make you use more grenades and cover because they have a slightly better AI and more health.

Hunters are pretty obvious. They're just meant to kill you. They present one major weak area and they challenge the player to maneuver around the battlefield while avoiding the high damage of their weapons.

Elites were meant to be the main fighting force. They were excellent at that as well. They would duck and move out of the way during Halo CE and used cover reasonably well. IMO, the elites of Halo CE were the best AI at challenging the player to a fight.

Drones were introduced to just harass the player and cause confusion on the battlefield. I personally think that they're extremely annoying.

Brutes were originally supposed to emulate elites in their behavior but be much less refined and focus more on their strength rather than their cunning and skill.



Unfortunately, during halo 3, because of the story line, brutes were forced to pick up the role of the elites while hold their original role and its just too hard to make an enemy seem imposing because of their strength and their skill. So most people didn't like the way they turned out.

Hopefully, now that the story line should be able to accommodate the elites as well as the OCCASIONAL brute.

  • 06.21.2009 3:18 PM PDT

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Posted by: Hylebos
I don't care if brutes aren't in campaign, so long as they leave their abandoned weapons piled neatly in various places across the multiplayer maps.

Especially Spikers. I love spikers. In case you haven't noticed.


Amen

  • 06.21.2009 3:23 PM PDT

Herping your derp.

Well I enjoyed the Brutes in Halo 3, mainly because of the challenge of the 'boss' Brute that you'd face occassionaly, maybe twice in a level. I've recently picked up a copy of Halo: CE and am now finding that the Elites are more strategical than Brutes.

They don't differ mainly, other than features and tactics. Elites roll like crazy, and can dodge a grenade or two. Brutes rely on packs, and can tank a grenade or two. Ultimately, both offer a good challenge to the player.

  • 06.21.2009 3:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: Hylebos
I don't care if brutes aren't in campaign, so long as they leave their abandoned weapons piled neatly in various places across the multiplayer maps.

Especially Spikers. I love spikers. In case you haven't noticed.

True, true.

Also the return of the brute plasma rifle would be nice.

  • 06.21.2009 3:39 PM PDT

No. If they are given a reworking, then they would be fun.

Elites should be tacticle and formidable. Brutes should be, well barbaric and rely on brawn.

  • 06.21.2009 3:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: JetSpartan022
I know. It's one of the best Halo's to date.

Definitely, it's at least in the top 5.

It is physically impossible for Brutes to be in that game, Elites made up the VAST majority of the Covenant military. There could be a few, but if they were the main fighting force like in Halo 3, it would completely f**k the haloverse. They better not add Brutes, Elites were worthy adversaries on Legendary, with recharging energy shields and health larger than yours. Brutes, however, are easy, predictable opponents even on Legendary.

  • 06.21.2009 4:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
I want the Brutes from First Strike. Fight as auxiliary troops (more Elites than Brutes) which actually fight as a pack of grenade-launcher-wielding gorillas would. Tear you limb from limb, not run at you at 3mph waving their arms around.

Yeah, that would be a lot better than completely removing the brutes

  • 06.21.2009 4:43 PM PDT

Armor Lock isn't overpowered. You just suck at Reach :)

Reach isn't bad, you're just a BK :)

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I wouldnt mind seeing brutes still, just not as much. It needs to go back to the ol' Elites vs Humans again.

  • 06.21.2009 4:59 PM PDT

Yes because this game is in the begining. The brutes did not join the Covenant until Halo 2 which is way before this. The book: "HALO The Fall of Reach" is what this game is based on. I think Bungie schould stick to the plan the set out for the Halo series.

  • 06.21.2009 5:03 PM PDT
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Absolutely not. There is a huge chance they will be in the game but they won't be the main enemy.

  • 06.21.2009 5:08 PM PDT

What a waste....

NO BRUTES!

  • 06.21.2009 5:24 PM PDT

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wait... i forgot how the brutes and drones came into the picture in the first place between halo 1 and two o_O

  • 06.21.2009 5:31 PM PDT
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Posted by: SquattingTurtle
wait... i forgot how the brutes and drones came into the picture in the first place between halo 1 and two o_O


They were always there, just not seen

  • 06.21.2009 5:47 PM PDT
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I hate the Halo 3 Brutes, but Halo 2 Brutes were really fun.

  • 06.21.2009 6:04 PM PDT

A little variety never hurt.

Let's see how the brutes preform on ODST

  • 06.21.2009 6:06 PM PDT

(;3=

i dont want them totally out of the picture but i want them out of halo reach. (if bungie decides to make another game with brutes they need to make them a better enemy like the elites cause the breakable armor sux monkey nuts)

  • 06.21.2009 6:16 PM PDT
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“To say more would spoil be it’s overall its a game that needs to be played.” - Aristotle

A return to combating a more honorable warrior-like race rather than the... well, brutish Brutes would be welcome in my own opinion. The Elites were always more fun to fight, and they sometimes (although not very often thanks to engine restrictions) surprised you with unexpected tactics. Yes, tactics, not running at you like a berserk ape. Which is exactly what the Brutes were.

  • 06.21.2009 6:20 PM PDT

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A return to combating a more honorable warrior-like race rather than the... well, brutish Brutes would be welcome in my own opinion. The Elites were always more fun to fight, and they sometimes (although not very often thanks to engine restrictions) surprised you with unexpected tactics. Yes, tactics, not running at you like a berserk ape. Which is exactly what the Brutes were.


The one thing that was nice about fighting brutes was it was almost like you were fighting stupidity incarnate.

  • 06.21.2009 6:28 PM PDT
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Why cant we have Burtes and Elites?

  • 06.21.2009 6:33 PM PDT

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