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Subject: Bungie Please Get rid of the MA5C, bring back the MA5B!

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The MA5B and MA5C are noob weapons... bring in a new AR.

45 round/magazine
3x range of MA5C if pulsed
Range of MA5B is full-auto
Damage of MA5B on body-shots
2x damage bonus for headshots
2x scope (like the ODST SMG got)

This would make the AR versatile, and possibly even worthy of being a starting weapon on some of the smaller maps. The BR could also be removed in this case, and its purpose could be split between the AR (long-range supression) and Pistol (accurate headshots) which could operate somewhere between the ODST and Halo 1 Pistol.

  • 06.22.2009 8:33 AM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
The MA5B and MA5C are noob weapons... bring in a new AR.

45 round/magazine
3x range of MA5C if pulsed
Range of MA5B is full-auto
Damage of MA5B on body-shots
2x damage bonus for headshots
2x scope (like the ODST SMG got)

This would make the AR versatile, and possibly even worthy of being a starting weapon on some of the smaller maps. The BR could also be removed in this case, and its purpose could be split between the AR (long-range supression) and Pistol (accurate headshots) which could operate somewhere between the ODST and Halo 1 Pistol.
That's definitely interesting. Assault rifle plus pistol would be an amazing combat load. I like it, but it's just a matter of whether bungie is going to keep the BR, or go for something in this direction.

  • 06.22.2009 8:38 AM PDT

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Posted by: halo2jumper
Stfu -.-*
No AR again in Reach pls. In Singleplayer would this weapon be okey but pls not in Multiplayer!
I hate this AR noobs... Battlerifle ftw!

You have never played Halo CE EVER have you? The AR in Halo CE was not a noob weapon, it actually was one of the more skill-testing weapons (especially cause if you didnt burst it, you would NEVER kill someone at medium to long range)

Look, if you haven't played ANY Halo game except Halo 3 (like this guy) don't post here, because you will have NO IDEA what you are talking about.

  • 06.22.2009 8:49 AM PDT

look lets just go back to the old AR because that is probly what they had at reach (I havent read the book yet) and lets keep the BR its a good solid gun I would like to see how the MA5K would work in a game.



WE DO NOT NEED TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE BR it is fine as it is

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the MA5B was a good weapon mainly the fact it souned great but it also felt more powerful than the MA5C. bring it back please
keep the BR but balance it to at lease a 5 bursts kills. and two headshots to kill an unshielded person
remove the duel wieldable SMG and replase it with the awsome looking weapon the spartan III's have on the ghosts of onyx cover


  • 06.22.2009 8:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: halo3 masta12
WE DO NOT NEED TO DO ANYTHING WITH THE BR it is fine as it is

Actually, the BR needs to be cut up to a 5 or 6 shot kill. I remember in Halo CE the pistol was rare on maps, and most players needed to combine weapon advantages to win fights, this was freaking awesome, and the BR should not be an "end all death machine" it should be a "when you have drained their shields with a plasma rifle, use this to finish him off" weapon.

  • 06.22.2009 8:53 AM PDT

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Posted by: halo2jumper
Stfu -.-*
No AR again in Reach pls. In Singleplayer would this weapon be okey but pls not in Multiplayer!
I hate this AR noobs... Battlerifle ftw!

You have never played Halo CE EVER have you? The AR in Halo CE was not a noob weapon, it actually was one of the more skill-testing weapons (especially cause if you didnt burst it, you would NEVER kill someone at medium to long range)

Look, if you haven't played ANY Halo game except Halo 3 (like this guy) don't post here, because you will have NO IDEA what you are talking about.
Anything fully antomatic is a "noob weapon" with Halo 3's no-skill-no-problem melee system. You click the B button and you fly magically to wherever the enemy is. Lunge is so broken. If it was removed, the Halo 3 AR would actually be a pretty skillful weapon, but still not versatile at all. That's why I suggest:

The BR is removed, and its two functions are split between two weapons.

MA5K Assault Rifle
45 rounds/magazine
2x scope, like the ODST SMG
3x range of MA5C pulse fire if pulsed
Same range as MA5B if full-auto
Same power as MA5B on body shots
2x bonus on headshots

M6D Pistol
12 rounds/magazine
2x scope, like ODST Magnum and H1 Pistol
Range of H1 Pistol if shot slowly
Range of H3 BR before-spread if shot automatic
10 bodyshots to kill
5 headshots to kill

  • 06.22.2009 8:54 AM PDT

both are cool, but the ma5c was made for the halo 3 events, so I bet we'll be seeing some other ARs like those here http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Assault_Rifles

  • 06.22.2009 9:16 AM PDT
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I actually like the MA5C. Less of a spray-and-pray gun, more of a tactical close-range asset. Hell, I say keep the C. I like it much better.

...unfortunately, I'm a sucker for canon. The MA5B was the common rifle at that time, and damn it, we better have the B even if most of the community doesn't like it. It was canon, damn it! CANON IS EVERYTHING.

  • 06.22.2009 9:54 AM PDT

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If the MA5C was developed after the MA5B, wouldn't it have been developed before the MA5K (higher letter), and just not put into wide use before the Battle of Earth?

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The MA5B actually wasn't that overpowered either. Sure it had a 60-round clip and a fast ROF, but it had small SMG-like bullets and was not nearly as accurate as the MA5C. I would agree that yes, Bungie should just lift the MA5B out of Halo: CE, maybe make some graphical improvements, and put it into Halo: Reach.

  • 06.22.2009 9:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: Nerd Boi
Yes. YES. YES YES YES YES YES.

MA5B please. Best sounding weapon in all 3 Halos.
How about the MA5K?

  • 06.22.2009 10:01 AM PDT
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Posted by: TehSpartan117
The MA5C sounds like a weak airsoft rifle my grandma would use.
You have a pretty cool grandma...


But yes, I'd love to see the MA5B make a return and I don't doubt it will come back as it was very common in the novels (I believe - haven't read them for a while). In the very least I think the assault rifle needs to sound badass. The Halo 3 AR didn't really have the same impact on that front (although the mechanics worked well).

  • 06.22.2009 10:11 AM PDT
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Posted by: Nerd Boi
Yes. YES. YES YES YES YES YES.

MA5B please. Best sounding weapon in all 3 Halos.
How about the MA5K?

The MA5K wasn't in any of the Halo games, it was only mentioned in the novels and made an appearance in Halo: Custom Edition only through modding.

  • 06.22.2009 10:25 AM PDT

Just play the -blam!- game it's a game have fun with it, as long as -blam!- isn't to unbalanced it will be fine all you people wo complain about weapons need to quit being so serious about a game. Btw halo has an aim assist so skill is not a large factor in the game , the only skill required is to know strategy, and where stuff is.

  • 06.22.2009 11:26 AM PDT

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The MA5B is weaker then the MA5C, just to let you know that.
The problem you have is probably with the sound the MA5C makes, it is a panzy sound compared to what it was in the Beta.

Basically, what you want to ask for is: "CaN I Haz Luoder NOizesz?!"

  • 06.22.2009 11:34 AM PDT

Can't wait till this forum erupts into anger and despair when they announce that the MA5_ (Where _ Is the next availible letter of the alphabet) will replace the MA5C in Halo Reach.

  • 06.22.2009 11:45 AM PDT

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The MA5C may have sounded -blam!-, but it did more damage than the MA5B. Don't tell Bungie to bring back the MA5B, because it wouldn't make sense if they didn't. In terms of canon.

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What about the MA5A? I mean if the previous versions are more bad ass than the one after, this one would be like the golden gun in 007. Also Reach is before CE so you can't exactly vote that out.

  • 06.22.2009 11:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: VEF214
When in Halo 1, the Assault Rifle gave you a sense of:

"Damned aliens, Beastly-Godly-Heavenly-Pistol-That-Acts-Like-A-Sniper-Rifle please pull me through this!"



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  • 06.22.2009 12:08 PM PDT

The BR isnt automatic NUB, its semi-automatic. The assault rifle is for noobs and whoever says that the BR shouldnt be in Halo:Reach is probably some loser who hides in a corner with their assalt rifle....

BR ftw..lol

  • 06.22.2009 12:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: Nerd Boi
Yes. YES. YES YES YES YES YES.

MA5B please. Best sounding weapon in all 3 Halos.


The MA5B didn't exist in halo 3. Halo 3 used the MA5C while halo CE used the MA5B. The letters on the end signify the difference.

  • 06.22.2009 12:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan 90210
I love how everyone is pleading for the MA5K when NOBODY knows how it works. It's never appeared in a game, and it made it's first and only debut in a novel. Please stop asking for something you know nothing about. As for the MA5B, while it does bring back some serious nostalgia it is a terrible weapon. The MA5C improved upon it in so many ways. You can be as ignorant as you please, but in reality the MA5C was an actual assault rifle not an SMG. Perhaps bring out a different model, but i definitely don't want the original.
From how it was designed in Halo PC it is great.

  • 06.22.2009 12:39 PM PDT

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