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Posted by: Crusader
Spartans don't use knives in any of the Halo books...atleast the ones that I've read and those are: The Fall of Reach, The Flood, First Strike, Ghosts of Onyx,The Cole Protocol (and Contact Harvest but there aren't any spartans there)
So because of these books I don't think it's going to be in the game.


well, like i've said, i have not read any of these books, only synopses. My sources may be wrong, but that doesn't deny the fact that many versions of Mjolnir armor have unusable knives built in and, more importantly, closer examination of the Title Picture reveal what appears to be a human-made knife in the hands of one of the Spartans.

If you have any other ideas as to what it could be, that would be great (it could even be one of the knives jackals reportedly carry, a Spartan could easily get a hold of one)

Anybody have any thoughts as to the gun in the hands of the huge Spartan? I was thinking along the lines of a modified machine gun turret (Gatling gun)

  • 06.25.2009 11:36 AM PDT

For the final time, the sword is a melee ranged weapon for the covenant, specifically the elites. The hammer is a melee weapon for the brutes. The human's analogue of these weapons, is the shotgun, another melee ranged weapon.

And before you go "but you can kill people outside of melee range with the shotgun", yes, that can be said for any weapons of this game. The Sniper is a long ranged weapon, but people bring it to medium and close range and waste ammo no scoping, but they can pull off kills. The AR can be used at medium range with grenades and burst fire. The BR can be used at close range with grenades, melees, and headshots.

What specifically makes a weapon a melee weapon is:
1) It kills with one hit at melee range without killing the user.
2) It has some mechanic that allows it to engage people at close range.

For example, the shotgun fires a damaging but non-lethal blast at close range which can kill a person after several shots, the sword lunges, and the hammer has a small lunge and the gravity well.

  • 06.25.2009 11:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
It wouldn't be the sword equivalent. The sword is powerful. The knife... is a knife. Also, Fred wasn't noted for being skilled with a knife particularly, he just was fumbling around with his, but it was noted by Nylund that the presence of a knife-wielding Spartan (not specifically Fred) was usually accompanied by numerous dead bodies.

I think it could be cool for SP to slice up some Grunts, but it couldn't really do much damage to another Spartan/Elite... I doubt someone would fill a weapon slot to pick one up.


It could be a type of melee option...sort of like in CoD I think. It would be a last resort option if you are out of ammo or were able to sneak up on someone. It wouldn't take up a weapon slot since it wouldn't as powerful, just a side arm. This would make more sense than a melee taking someone out so quickly too. Melees could be toned down and/or replaced with knife. But I really hope they take out the lunge, and the crosshair magnetism too that is currently in Halo.

I do agree that it would't make sense for a Spartan's armor/shield or an elites to be sliced through so easily with a human blade. With that said I wonder if multi-palyer will be a true take on covenent vs humans? Instead of Red vs Blue setups. That makes me think of Gears...so scratch that (its a good game in its own right though).

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  • 06.25.2009 11:50 AM PDT

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Maybe Bungie will bring back the Machete that was supposed to be in Halo: CE.

  • 06.25.2009 12:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: Bullet _ Sponge
A knife would only be so usefull against an enemy as strong or stronger than you that has an energy shield. Not to mention against a certain ape it would be absolutely useless. Besides I would rather be stabbed than hit with a wrecking ball, AKA Master Chiefs fist.


I would rather get punched by Master Chief's "wrecking ball" fists than get stabbed by a huge knife being wielded by wrecking ball fists.

  • 06.25.2009 12:25 PM PDT

what i would love to say is one of those little spartans leap on the back of a brute or an elite and stab there necks bad ass style

  • 06.25.2009 12:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: SEM484X
If they give me a knife I will damn well use it.

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Since the Brute shot, Spiker, and Mauler aren't 1HK melees, I doubt that the knife would be either. People wouldn't pick up a knife just to use it... it would be an aesthetic melee giving you no option to shoot... a machete, maybe, but a knife? Nah. We already have a human melee range weapon: the Shotgun.

  • 06.25.2009 12:35 PM PDT

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bungie maken the combat knife please, oh and if the hight of the jump is the same from halo 3, i would do prity good, oh and please put the magnet mellee with the nife, wait, howbout we use it as a wep, you can punch holding the knife and use the knife!!!

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  • 06.25.2009 1:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: radical00edward
Maybe Bungie will bring back the Machete that was supposed to be in Halo: CE.


That is a much better idea than some crappy cod knife.


"combat knife" could mean many things. the "knife" in the hands of the ^Spartan above seems a decent size. i was imagining a reasonably large blade on par with the sword. a machete's really the only thing that meets this

  • 06.25.2009 10:45 PM PDT

it would be nice, but they should make it significantly weaker than the sword, but still a bit stronger than the melee.

  • 06.25.2009 10:49 PM PDT
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Posted by: MichaelYEAHH
it would be nice, but they should make it significantly weaker than the sword, but still a bit stronger than the melee.


my thoughts exactly

  • 06.25.2009 10:51 PM PDT

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I could see it as a cool campaign weapon, but not as a MP weapon. Would be too hard to balance. It would either be too weak or too powerful, cause it is after all just a knife.

  • 06.25.2009 10:59 PM PDT
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Posted by: Another one
I could see it as a cool campaign weapon, but not as a MP weapon. Would be too hard to balance. It would either be too weak or too powerful, cause it is after all just a knife.


that is true. it would be like the mythical mounted missile pod; Campaign only. could be frustrating but more realistic. however, if reach has a separate "firefight"-like mode of multiplayer it could be possibly be worked in, even if it's unlikely.

  • 06.25.2009 11:04 PM PDT

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Posted by: Another one
I could see it as a cool campaign weapon, but not as a MP weapon. Would be too hard to balance. It would either be too weak or too powerful, cause it is after all just a knife.

Not necessarily, make it an extremely close range weapon, say you have to grab 'n' stab. After all, Spartan armor (and elite armor) does have numerous weak points where the knife could easily pass unhindered (All the black portions of the armor). It's extreme power would be equilized by its equally short reach. This would give an aware opponent the ability to counter any knife attack.

  • 06.25.2009 11:30 PM PDT

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Apperently in Halo CE for the PC uses they were able to use the knife or some human blade I wonder who wouldn't want something from the PC. I'd love to use a human knife against the elete with a long sword against my small combat knife.LOL. In all seriousness I would like to use the human blade.

  • 06.26.2009 9:09 AM PDT

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