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Subject: Proof against Time Travel

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I cant get pics of this atm but if you pause the halo reach trailer at around 34 seconds and pause this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yygn_vlH5a4) at around 5:52 you can see that the ships have sustained different damage. Plus on this picture the time traval theorists are using :http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/8692/proof1b.jpg you can see that Reach has cities on continents (biological) very much similar to Earth where as the halo 3 legendary ending planet you can cleary see its Forerunner (mechanical).

This is my opinon and proof backing it up.

  • 06.23.2009 1:45 PM PDT

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Why Reach, why not another planet such as the shield world.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Legendary_Planet

  • 06.23.2009 1:53 PM PDT

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First of all, this isn't "proof," only evidence. There is a difference. Proof would be Bungie saying "no time travel."

And because of the space-time oddity that occurs in Eric Nylund's First Strike, time travel, though I personally find it unlikely in this instance, isn't that outlandish of a speculative theory.

Edited for spelling stupidity...

[Edited on 06.23.2009 4:52 PM PDT]

  • 06.23.2009 1:55 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sp4rt4n119
Thank you sir, that was an epic rendition of this topic.


Posted by: Xx KNOX xX
and how!

All the Proof needed against time travel: Time travel is weak. Bungie is a powerful and long standing company.

That, on top of all the other evidence that has been posted countless times that people refuse to pay attention to and instead of searching for similar topics that have already been disproved post their "hot and fresh" theory.

  • 06.23.2009 1:56 PM PDT

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Sorry i mean evidence. Got mixed up and Killer X 11 what are you on about?

  • 06.23.2009 1:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sp4rt4n119
Thank you sir, that was an epic rendition of this topic.


Posted by: Xx KNOX xX
and how!

Posted by: Shai Hulud
First of all, this isn't "proof," only evidence. There is a different. Proof would be Bungie saying "no time travel."

And because of the space-time oddity that occurs in Eric Nylund's First Strike, time travel, though I personally find it unlikely in this instance, isn't that outlandish of a speculative theory.


The Crystal distorted time, it didn't invert it.

  • 06.23.2009 1:57 PM PDT

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Bungie is a powerful and long standing company.
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That's what she said

  • 06.23.2009 1:58 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sparrowhawk453
Sorry i mean evidence. Got mixed up and Killer X 11 what are you on about?


why do people think it's time travel to reach. When it could be another planet.

  • 06.23.2009 1:59 PM PDT

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why do people think it's time travel to reach. When it could be another planet.

Ah i agree. In fact its likely to be a whole new planet. There is many secrets in the Halo galaxy and i don't see why people belive that Bungie has to stick to the same planets.

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  • 06.23.2009 2:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: Sparrowhawk453
why do people think it's time travel to reach. When it could be another planet.

Ah i agree. In fact its likely to be a whole new planet. There is many secrets in the Halo galaxy and i don't see why people belive that Bungie has to stick to the same planets.


Look at these other planets that could be used

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Legendary_Planet

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Posted by: Shai Hulud
First of all, this isn't "proof," only evidence. There is a different. Proof would be Bungie saying "no time travel."


Although not quite the same as a definitive answer, an interview with Joseph Staten hinted at the purported explanation of time travel in the Halo franchise, and implied that such an explanation would be silly, and Joseph Staten responded coyly in simple agreement.

Time has been shown to be bent and distorted, but never traveled through, save the lone effect of slipspace, which is only likened to time travel, and only "forward".

  • 06.23.2009 2:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: Dream053
which is only likened to time travel, and only "forward".


Cryo!

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  • 06.23.2009 2:07 PM PDT

Armor Lock isn't overpowered. You just suck at Reach :)

Reach isn't bad, you're just a BK :)

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Time-travel theory is stupid.

I'm sick of hearing of that stupid theory.

  • 06.23.2009 2:10 PM PDT

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Posted by: IIGhoulishtieII
Time-travel theory is stupid.

I'm sick of hearing of that stupid theory.


Im sick of you whining about it

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Posted by: Dream053
which is only likened to time travel, and only "forward".


Cyro!

That too, but even that is relative to the person in cryo. It isn't actual travel through time. Not sure if you were just throwing that in addition or using it as an argument for time travel :P.

  • 06.23.2009 2:22 PM PDT

Armor Lock isn't overpowered. You just suck at Reach :)

Reach isn't bad, you're just a BK :)

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Posted by: IIGhoulishtieII
Time-travel theory is stupid.

I'm sick of hearing of that stupid theory.


Im sick of you whining about it


Too bad.

I'm sick of people being hard headed and stupid. I guess until thats fixed, i'm gona continue saying that stupid theory is stupid.

  • 06.23.2009 3:52 PM PDT

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Posted by: Shai Hulud
First of all, this isn't "proof," only evidence. There is a different. Proof would be Bungie saying "no time travel."


Although not quite the same as a definitive answer, an interview with Joseph Staten hinted at the purported explanation of time travel in the Halo franchise, and implied that such an explanation would be silly, and Joseph Staten responded coyly in simple agreement.

Time has been shown to be bent and distorted, but never traveled through, save the lone effect of slipspace, which is only likened to time travel, and only "forward".


Though again, I don't think the time travel theories presented in this forum will actually be the case with the game, I do like to defend said theorists on the basis that space and time are not separate entities. This is shown in special relativity with evidence to back it up (but theories are not fact, I know). Hence the term "space-time." Traveling through one is traveling through the other; it's just not as simple as a linear relationship.

Traveling "forward" through time is a pretty easy-to-consider concept if you know anything about special relativity. Back-wards time-travel is a bit more paradoxical, but it's not that crazy of a theory. We simply don't know enough about time itself to know whether or not its possible.

In sci-fi these things are fudged. "Why nots" come into play, and inventors of certain fictional universes will consider that such things may be possible in the future.

And to whomever else responded to my post about the cyrstal; yes, the crystal distorts space-time, but its distortion of space-time changed how the characters in the story passed through space AND time (hence the anomalies in the date-stamps throughout the book). It's never really said that anyone went backwards in time, no, but it is clear that certain Forerunner tech seem to operate outside the boundaries of human understanding, even at 2552.

  • 06.23.2009 5:00 PM PDT

None of this proves anything. Just because the planets aren't exactly the same doesn't mean they're not the same. I don't think bungie would just copy and paste the same planet from one video to another. The thing is that they do look similar and I think that bungie made them look similar for a reason.

  • 06.23.2009 5:12 PM PDT