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Subject: Bungie's Mistake

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Posted by: darkops0
Doesn't it cost money to make the game first? You know like the programmers, testers, voice actors etc... So they must make money somehow, or face bankruptcy. >:D *evil laugh*

thats a good point, part of the sales income goes towards paying the crew that created the game

  • 06.24.2009 2:57 PM PDT
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I'm fine with the price. so what its $60, so was halo 3. Odst will be fun.Btw in firefight you can chose to wear your helmet or not. the price isn't a big deal just pre order it and you can play as Sgt. Johnson in firefight

  • 06.24.2009 3:01 PM PDT

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Posted by: ShadowHunter118
If ODST is as good as it looks I'm fine with paying $60 for it.


Same here man, same here.

Also, Bungie did state that this game turned into so much more than they had originally planned. Maybe that's why Microsoft saw it enough to place a 60 dollar tag on it.

  • 06.24.2009 3:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tibetz
Bungie came through. Microsoft didn't.


This.

  • 06.24.2009 3:16 PM PDT

It comes with a short campaign using the same engine that Halo 3 has, and one new multiplayer mode, 3 new maps and a beta which should be free some how adds up to 60$ when halo 3 cost the same amount of money came out with out with a new engine, 11 maps, new multiplayer system, forge, and theater. and people think that's justifiable

  • 06.24.2009 3:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: CtodaJ
there are plenty of single player games that sell for $60, Fallout 3, Oblivion, [Prototype]. there is no problem with the price, so quit whining.


All those games are worth atleast 1000 each.

  • 06.24.2009 3:20 PM PDT

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I see nothing wrong with the established price point, a new campaign, a new game mode w/online co-op, the complete Halo3 MP, with all previously released map packs and the final 3 mythic maps, and all of the features that go with it. The MP disk alone is worth at least 40 given the map packs (taking realease prices into consideration), and a totally new campaign and game mode, c'mon now.

It's not like this is priced over every other game, nearly all big releases are this price. Being as MS is in charge of the games release pricing, don't gripe to Bungie about it.

  • 06.24.2009 3:22 PM PDT

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I'm disappointed in you, actually, OP. For someone who seems to trust Bungie, you seem awfully mad at them for something they had no say on. It's Microsoft that has full control on it's pricing. And, haven't you heard that Bungie is saying that ODST has grown from an expansion to a full game by this point.

I mean, dear god, nothing is set in stone. Developments things change, budgets, deadlines. Anyways, what I'm saying is ODST has changed from and expansion to a full game by this point. So we should pay the full price.

  • 06.24.2009 3:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tonoottu
bungie doesnt chose the price tags. hell gamestop could make the price £3000 if they wanted to


Something tells me MS would stop doing business with them.

  • 06.24.2009 3:28 PM PDT

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I think ODST is well worth $60:

-All of the previous map packs are included - $17.50 (If you were to download them off the Market Place)

-ODST Campaign and Firefight mode - $35 (At least)

-Extra Halo 3 Multi player disc - $7.50

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  • 06.24.2009 3:43 PM PDT
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Thank you sir, that was an epic rendition of this topic.


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Posted by: Scop3d
I want to reply to all of you in this post.

First, I have lost some respect for Bungie because of their misleading information. I have not lost all respect nor do I think that they are a "bad business".

To all the single player games out their, I for one do not purchase such games. Multiplayer is where it's at. They can throw their $60 dollar price tags out there, I for one won't be buying.

Why am I forced to pay for all the Halo 3 multiplayer I already own only to enjoy the new content of ODST? I want to spend what those three things are worth. I don't need all this other stuff. Also, the Reach Beta is just an addition to help them sell their $60 price tag. It's really just a way for Bungie to Alpha/Beta test their product for free. You guys know that gaming companies pay people to test games, right?

Why can't I pay for ODST campaign, firefight, and the three new maps for how much I assume they are worth? Because M$ and Bungie thinks I'm wrong. The Grateful Dead released a album years ago, they asked for the consumer to pay how much they thought it was worth. Guess what, the consumer on average payed far more then the selling price of the album, had it been released at cost.


You know, at first you seemed like a smart guy that just misread the information he was presented with, but you just blew that theory away.

Bungie never mislead you and for the last dang time, Bungie has nothing to do with pricing the game.

On top of that, many Halo 3 players paid $60 to be in the Halo 3 Beta, they bought Crackdown and only played the Beta. I think that is enough to say that the Reach Beta invitation is worth at least $5 or $10.

  • 06.24.2009 4:32 PM PDT

If ODST is as good as it looks I'm fine with paying $60 for it. me too, but the op makes a point

  • 06.24.2009 4:35 PM PDT

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All I can say is, the price isn't going to change so suck it up and put up the money, or don't buy it.

If you lack the income, hoard up until you do. If you do have the money, why are you complaining anyway?

In my opinion, ODST has changed from an expansion to a full game. Thus warranting the price of a full game. I personally, don't mind the price.

  • 06.24.2009 4:38 PM PDT

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Sounds like a bunch of Justin Bieber wannabes in here. I bet you all wear skinny jeans too.

Am I upset about the price tag? Yes
Am I dumb enough to buy the game anyways? Definitely

  • 06.24.2009 4:41 PM PDT

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You really don't seem to understand do you?

Bungie= Making the game and putting what they think is necissary on it.

Microsoft= PRICE TAG! It's that simple, your thinking that whatever Bungie says is fact and then suddenly when you find out that it's become something more, they are just liars or whatever you are thinking.

And have you ever looked at it in case of a way if you suddenly either lose your account to hackers or you get a new 360 that this way you don't have to go throough downloading them again.


And furthermore you already said that your buying the game! So why are you making a big fit when you already defeated the purpose (in a way) of your own topic?

[Edited on 06.24.2009 4:57 PM PDT]

  • 06.24.2009 4:50 PM PDT

Just incredible the amount of moaning i see regarding this

Firefight is worth the price alone and i'll likely be playing that for years, but on top of that we get what will no doubt be a great campaign, Reach beta and 3 new maps

Spoilt kids some of you

  • 06.24.2009 4:55 PM PDT

My honor student can beat up your honor student.

In an interview recently Staten said that the price was amped up to $60 by Microsoft because they saw the final product as more of a complete game as opposed to a extension, which Bungie agreed to as they said it was closer to Halo 3's campaign in length.

  • 06.24.2009 5:03 PM PDT

boo hoo it looks good

  • 06.24.2009 5:22 PM PDT

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Posted by: Scop3d

To all the single player games out their, I for one do not purchase such games. Multiplayer is where it's at. They can throw their $60 dollar price tags out there, I for one won't be buying.


And there you have it. that's what makes it not worth it to you. Instead of all these bull-blam!- answers and arguments about Bungie giving misleading information and you being disappointed by it, just say you don't think a game without multiplayer is worth it. That seems to be the only legitimate reason you have. (the legitimacy of that can be argued too, in my opinion)

Just because it includes all the multiplayer on the second disc does not mean your paying for all of the multiplayer experience. If all you pay for is the 10 bucks for the extra 3 maps on that disc, that brings the main game down to 49.99. And for those that dont have the maps, it makes the regular game about 40-45 (give or take). Sounds like a hell of a deal for the ODST campaign and Firefight to me.

That's the way I look at it. Some people have trouble seeing the real value in a price, but that's because they look as a whole instead of exactly what you get and the real breakdown of the price. If this game was a standalone disc at a cost of 49.99 and an option to buy the other three maps for 10, there probably wouldn't be as big of a fuss, despite it ending up costing the same.

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  • 06.24.2009 5:35 PM PDT
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Two companies decide how ODST is priced. Microsoft, and the stores.

Now, keep in mind that this game is absolutely the best one yet. New game mode, epic campaign, full multiplayer experience, everything. This game looks better than Halo 3 itself.

If I were to weigh things out and figure out how players respond to different pieces of gaming and price value in it, I would price ODST at least $70.

Now, also note that Microsoft is a business. They carefully decide how to price things. They have to decide whether to cater to the upper class to get more money from fewer people, whether to cater to the middle class and get less money from more people, or the lower class, which the majority of do not need Microsoft's products.

Which seems like a better idea, catering to the rich and gaining money from them, or catering to the average person and gaining people's lust for new products from them? They're still going to do things for the richer, but mainly they're spreading love to those who are average.

That being said, they need to price things at an appropriate level to get a good profit yet not mark it too high for most people to get. $60 is the normal pricing of highly anticipated games, and Halo 3 ODST is amongst the top five most hyped games ever (confirmation needed). History has shown that people who really want a game will shell out $60 for it. Halo 3 ODST deserves such a pricing, so Microsoft decided that mainly everyone who was going to buy ODST before would probably buy it at that price. They get a profit without losing customers.

There you go, that's why it's $60.

  • 06.24.2009 5:37 PM PDT

Suck it Red!

I am disappointed, but I blame the price increase on M$.

  • 06.24.2009 5:54 PM PDT
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It's $70 here in Canada. And it's not Bungie's fault, it's Microsoft's. They try to milk Halo as much as they can.

  • 06.24.2009 6:15 PM PDT

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Get over it. Find a job. Get $60 by doing extra chores.

  • 06.24.2009 6:16 PM PDT