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Introduction of a combat knife.

No I'm not saying hey let's turn halo into Call of Duty, but it would solve the beat down problem, stabbed by a knife end of story, not hey I stabbed you first.

So now you say, well the Covenant can hardly have an energy sword?

Well actually yes they can have a form of energy sword.

In the books Jackals are issued with a 'needler' style knife for close combat. Basically a purple needl with a handle.

ODST could benefit from a combat knife aswell.

  • 06.26.2009 3:36 AM PDT

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IDK I guess it would be up to bungie

  • 06.26.2009 3:42 AM PDT

If they include the possibility to be ODST as well as spartan I don't see why not. And the needle knife sounds cool.

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Posted by: iwanneatchips
If they include the possibility to be ODST as well as spartan I don't see why not. And the needle knife sounds cool.


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  • 06.26.2009 5:49 AM PDT

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  • 06.26.2009 6:03 AM PDT
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I don't know how it would work with the current melee system there is no need. I guess if the melee system from Halo CE it could work. It would allow you to do lots of damaging without jumping or running. I don't think its needed though.

  • 06.26.2009 6:05 AM PDT

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I think that you should have the option, say now
Press up on the D-Pad once for a fist
Press up on the D-Pad Twice for a knife, would be really good to see in gameplay.

  • 06.26.2009 6:23 AM PDT

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People complain about the melee being overpowered anyway, and the "hey I hit you first" comes from lag rather than beat downs being weak most of the time. Also, in regular gameplay, how would you resolve simaltanious melees? If you did an energy sword style clash it would brutalise the game.

  • 06.26.2009 6:27 AM PDT
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Posted by: Martaaaan
I think that you should have the option, say now
Press up on the D-Pad once for a fist
Press up on the D-Pad Twice for a knife, would be really good to see in gameplay.


No offence intended, but it would be utterly pointless.

Given the option to hit or stab somehow... stab

  • 06.26.2009 6:27 AM PDT

Oh yeah It's Rayzed.

How would a knife penetrate shields, titanium, and crystalline armor? I don't think the knife is even long enough to fit through a Spartan.

  • 06.26.2009 8:52 AM PDT

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What would be the point of a knife? BTW the "Needler-knife" thing from Contact Harvest exploded on impact, so it would be more effective than a human knife.

  • 06.26.2009 9:51 AM PDT

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Knives do not go through shields. You see the Spiker or the Bruteshot? Those have huge blades, and yet, they only do 72 damage than the regular 70 when you melee. Seems a bit pointless, it wouldn't solve any problems. Its not supposed to be a "I melee first you die" sort of deal, they fixed that in the first automatic update to compensate for people having host.

[Edited on 06.26.2009 9:57 AM PDT]

  • 06.26.2009 9:56 AM PDT

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Put simply in the words of Nietzsche as "the will to nothingness".

I agree, what is the point of having a knife when it does nothing but an extra 2 damage (brute shot blade) and having all simultaneous beat downs ending up as sword clashes would stagnate the gameplay immensely. Please don't mention any quick-time or button mashing contests either..

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How would a knife penetrate shields, titanium, and crystalline armor? I don't think the knife is even long enough to fit through a Spartan.

Very true, I can't see that happening either.

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Armor > Knife. There is no way a conventional knife created by mankind could do any serious damage to a heavily armored Cov' Soldier. So unless the knife is a super plasma knife (possibly a miniture energy sword) it wont be effective.

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Posted by: Raylette
How would a knife penetrate shields, titanium, and crystalline armor? I don't think the knife is even long enough to fit through a Spartan.

Very true, I can't see that happening either.


So you have no problem with a Spartan being able to beat down an Elite with two blows (and smashing open a tank for that matter) and you think a knife wouldn't help? Surely the UNSC can make a knife of the same durability as the Mjolnir armor (?). A Spartans muscle would practically work as the gunpowder in a sniper round. Instead of a wide fist all strenght would be compressed into one sharp point.

  • 06.26.2009 2:59 PM PDT

Look

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNL-CQRih_k

I think the EVA chest plate has a knife. Atleast some chest plate does.

  • 06.26.2009 3:17 PM PDT

I am just saying that use of any close quarters weapon would be cool.... but I would rather see a strength increase in Spartans. Because when I can flip a 66 ton tank in-game, I should be able to one-hit kill a Grunt, or a freakin Jackal. That is all.
EDIT: By the way, to Great- It is the CQB chest plate.

[Edited on 06.26.2009 4:07 PM PDT]

  • 06.26.2009 4:05 PM PDT
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yeah it sounds interesting enough mabey have an option in the customization menu ill name mine lucy

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How would a knife penetrate shields, titanium, and crystalline armor? I don't think the knife is even long enough to fit through a Spartan.

Very true, I can't see that happening either.


So you have no problem with a Spartan being able to beat down an Elite with two blows (and smashing open a tank for that matter) and you think a knife wouldn't help? Surely the UNSC can make a knife of the same durability as the Mjolnir armor (?). A Spartans muscle would practically work as the gunpowder in a sniper round. Instead of a wide fist all strenght would be compressed into one sharp point.
If the Brute shot, Spiker, and Mauler melee don't kill in one shot, why would a combat knife?

  • 06.26.2009 4:21 PM PDT

I would not want a knife... You know how on Forge they have those Radio Antennae dealies? THAT is what I would use. Or an I-beam.

  • 06.26.2009 4:31 PM PDT

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How would a knife penetrate shields, titanium, and crystalline armor? I don't think the knife is even long enough to fit through a Spartan.

Very true, I can't see that happening either.


So you have no problem with a Spartan being able to beat down an Elite with two blows (and smashing open a tank for that matter) and you think a knife wouldn't help? Surely the UNSC can make a knife of the same durability as the Mjolnir armor (?). A Spartans muscle would practically work as the gunpowder in a sniper round. Instead of a wide fist all strenght would be compressed into one sharp point.
If the Brute shot, Spiker, and Mauler melee don't kill in one shot, why would a combat knife?

Well I dont agree with it being one hit kill. Im just fascinated that people believe that a knife would break, or wouldnt be effective enough to kill with.
Personaly I think that the melee attack makes too much damage, hell, it is as effective as a sniper round. No, I think it should be three or maybe four hits before you kill someone, but then they would have to change a close quarters combat a bit, with combos or something, but at the same time let the opponent block incoming hits..
So the knife should have a nice two hit kill.

  • 06.27.2009 7:27 AM PDT

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How would a knife penetrate shields, titanium, and crystalline armor? I don't think the knife is even long enough to fit through a Spartan.

Very true, I can't see that happening either.


So you have no problem with a Spartan being able to beat down an Elite with two blows (and smashing open a tank for that matter) and you think a knife wouldn't help? Surely the UNSC can make a knife of the same durability as the Mjolnir armor (?). A Spartans muscle would practically work as the gunpowder in a sniper round. Instead of a wide fist all strenght would be compressed into one sharp point.
If the Brute shot, Spiker, and Mauler melee don't kill in one shot, why would a combat knife?

Well I dont agree with it being one hit kill. Im just fascinated that people believe that a knife would break, or wouldnt be effective enough to kill with.
Personaly I think that the melee attack makes too much damage, hell, it is as effective as a sniper round. No, I think it should be three or maybe four hits before you kill someone, but then they would have to change a close quarters combat a bit, with combos or something, but at the same time let the opponent block incoming hits..
So the knife should have a nice two hit kill.

....And we spawn with a knife.

...So pretty much you just want a knife animation?

Yeah, a bit unneccesary.

  • 06.27.2009 7:34 AM PDT

The covenant has stuff like "energy swords, gravity hammers and needler knifes" cuz they are big and strong, they can stabb a marine to death easy with that. I would like to see an odst stabb a brute with a combat knife. the brute would just pick him up and twist his neck.
So unless they come up with some starwars lightsaber stuff that would be kinda messed up. i dont kno man, i just dont kno...

  • 06.27.2009 7:37 AM PDT

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