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Subject: Dual wielding- The solution

Great thinking it could get confusing having two aimers tho. Also this is sort of how duel wielding smg's already works the aimer doesent get bigger but they definately get harder to control.

  • 08.18.2009 11:16 PM PDT
Subject: Dual wielding- The solution {Diagram included}

Its a trap!!!

I dont know the smg is pretty powerful single handed. I can out gun someone who has an Assault rifle

Close Mid Range to Close range- winner- SMG
Mid to far- winner- AR

The SMG is very powerful even by itself but lacks accuracy due to the recoil and the spread of the bullets but if i have and AR and a BR I would drop the AR for an SMG. I have shredded banshees with SMG burst.

The Plasma Rifle/Smg combo is great and I will pick it up once in a while even though i feel dual weilding is a bit newbie. But its a really powerful combo

  • 08.19.2009 12:27 AM PDT
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NO what is newbie is using a plasma pistol then br or magnum >.< i hate people who do that, it's like why not just take the extra quarter of a second and put the other 2 bursts in my head?

Posted by: Smug Dark Loser
Am I the only one who can use a single SMG/ Spiker? Its called use them grenades

You know, dual wieldable weapons melee much faster than non.


nope, i use smg more than assualt rifle now, still doesnt beat it in kills because i can never find one on lone wolves (unless it's the pit) I always have it when i grab a sniper rifle

[Edited on 08.19.2009 6:38 AM PDT]

  • 08.19.2009 6:36 AM PDT

I'm a monkey, and I'm pimpin'.

I understand where you are coming from the idea of dual wielding is a good idea some people just need to accept that they are just as good weapons but they are only at effective close range

  • 08.19.2009 8:04 AM PDT

Posted by: Pimpin Monkey
I understand where you are coming from the idea of dual wielding is a good idea some people just need to accept that they are just as good weapons but they are only at effective close range

Have you ever played Halo 1? Do you notice that every weapon can kill effectively without the requirement of a grenade or a melee?

That is what this is trying to do. With this system you can have Halo 1 style weapons but still have dual wielding.

  • 08.19.2009 10:05 AM PDT

they don't cut the power of the original weapon, you only give 175% damage when dual wielding, not a full 200% damage

  • 08.19.2009 10:36 AM PDT

Yes they did. In Halo 1 the plasma pistol and rifle could kill quickly, and without a melee or grenade.

That is not the case in Halo 2 or 3. With this system, you can have Halo 1 style weapons, and still have dual wielding.

Please don't just denounce an idea, try to understand the reasoning behind it.

Posted by: Patman750
they don't cut the power of the original weapon, you only give 175% damage when dual wielding, not a full 200% damage

  • 08.19.2009 1:19 PM PDT

I don't get it, you guys say you like the idea, but you let the thread fall to page 12...

  • 08.21.2009 10:49 AM PDT

-blam!- Was that actually blammed out? Or did I just type it? You'll never know.

I like dual wielding the way it is. You have two guns, you shoot them at a target. Depending how good your aim is, they hit or miss. And you can even use dual weildable weapons on their own and they're still good. Couple them with a beat down. Always grab a single Spike if I find one, it's better than the AR.

  • 08.21.2009 10:54 AM PDT

The second to last sentence proves my point. Weapons should not require a beat down to kill someone quickly. And they should have good medium range.
Posted by: dahuterschuter
I like dual wielding the way it is. You have two guns, you shoot them at a target. Depending how good your aim is, they hit or miss. And you can even use dual weildable weapons on their own and they're still good. Couple them with a beat down. Always grab a single Spike if I find one, it's better than the AR.

  • 08.21.2009 12:10 PM PDT

I remember the days when Halo introduced dual wielding to the world, that was amazing.

I still prefer a decent dual wielding combination over the assault rifle anyday. Being able to dual wield more powerful guns would totally make our small weapons arsenal useless. I disagree with allowing us to dual wield anything we want.

When the Chief was dual wielding rocket launchers in that cutscene however, now that was bad ass.

  • 08.21.2009 12:57 PM PDT

I never said we could dual wield anything we wanted...

Only the SMG, the covenant version of the SMG (maybe brute PR), the plasma pistol, the mauler, and the magnum.
Posted by: Schuler
I remember the days when Halo introduced dual wielding to the world, that was amazing.

I still prefer a decent dual wielding combination over the assault rifle anyday. Being able to dual wield more powerful guns would totally make our small weapons arsenal useless. I disagree with allowing us to dual wield anything we want.

When the Chief was dual wielding rocket launchers in that cutscene however, now that was bad ass.

  • 08.21.2009 1:15 PM PDT

But that turns dual wielding into a more luck type deal

  • 08.21.2009 1:34 PM PDT
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*musically* i read this thread and i liked it!

  • 08.21.2009 1:42 PM PDT
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How? It makes it more tactical because of your limited range and accuracy.

And I liked that post Paublo.

Posted by: VANGUARD 003
But that turns dual wielding into a more luck type deal

  • 08.21.2009 1:55 PM PDT
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I think would be a beneficial change.

  • 08.21.2009 2:03 PM PDT
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Yeah, because we all know that weird guys on youtube always speak the truth.

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WOW!

I good idea!

I like it :D

  • 08.21.2009 2:45 PM PDT
Subject: Dual wielding- The solution {Diagram included}

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
My suggestions for the melee range weapons:

Shotgun -- bring back the Halo 1 shotgun, lower the rate of fire, and magazine capacity should be 6 instead of 12.

Sword -- increase lunge range between H2 and H3 sword, make clash consistent or remove it. This is the only weapon with lunge on it. Carrying this weapon gives a slight running speed boost.

Hammer -- gravity burst should ONLY be effective in a conical fashion (no more 360 degree effect). No more lunge, more gravity burst, maybe in a 45-90 degree cone infront.
Sounds good, the sword running boost makes no sense but it would be needed regardless. Even a 10% speed increase would make a huge difference.

The way the sword would give you a boost is its 90% energy and the hilt weighs way less than any other weapon

  • 08.21.2009 2:57 PM PDT

And no weapon besides the sword should have lunge on the melee.

  • 08.21.2009 4:20 PM PDT
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In Halo 1 Pistol>everything
Also it's not that hard to get kills at non close quarters, just play space invaders with them.
(shoot where they're going to be)

  • 08.22.2009 12:44 AM PDT
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seconding that

  • 08.22.2009 1:30 AM PDT
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like that, less of "I thought that he couldnt get me" Kills *EDIT* RESPONDING TO NO MELEE LUNGE BUT SWORD

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  • 08.22.2009 1:32 AM PDT
Subject: Dual wielding- The solution {Diagram included}

Where did that Halo 1 pistol thing come in?

And it will behard because imagine an SMG with twice the spread. Unless you are bursting, you are not going to hit anyone.

Posted by: Lekesa
In Halo 1 Pistol>everything
Also it's not that hard to get kills at non close quarters, just play space invaders with them.
(shoot where they're going to be)

  • 08.22.2009 9:29 AM PDT
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See you at the Aftermath!

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good idea. another think that they could do is have some dual-wieldable weapons that have a scope, but the scope could only be used when single wielding. that way, we could have our halo ce pistol, and our dual wielding.

  • 08.23.2009 1:04 PM PDT

I am an avid gamer with a passion to keep games fun and strategy provoking, rather than simply button mashing instant-reward games that plague the market nowadays. I'm not kind, but I'm rational, fair, and maybe, just maybe, somewhat intelligent.

They should also have an option in the game settings to disable dual wielding if you so choose, now that would be cool.

  • 08.23.2009 1:30 PM PDT