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Subject: Dual wielding- The solution {Diagram included}
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Good idea! I can rip so many players in a radius of two meters. *evil laugh* >:P

  • 07.19.2009 4:31 PM PDT

It is what it is.

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I really like this idea. It really is the best of both worlds.

  • 07.19.2009 4:51 PM PDT

Thank you, I do my best.

Posted by: cyberguy
I really like this idea. It really is the best of both worlds.

  • 07.19.2009 4:54 PM PDT

Are you being sarcastic?

Posted by: darkops0
Good idea! I can rip so many players in a radius of two meters. *evil laugh* >:P

  • 07.21.2009 7:39 PM PDT
Subject: Dual wielding- The solution
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I love it!!! Do It please!

  • 07.21.2009 7:51 PM PDT

Thank you. Although I hope you like it because you read and fully understood.

Posted by: EICK777
I love it!!! Do It please!

  • 07.21.2009 9:05 PM PDT
Subject: Dual wielding- The solution {Diagram included}

Ideally we would have more that 2 meters of range while dual wielding...

Posted by: darkops0
Good idea! I can rip so many players in a radius of two meters. *evil laugh* >:P

  • 07.24.2009 5:33 PM PDT
Subject: Dual wielding- The solution

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I think if you moved a bit slower it would make sense (Weapons are kinda heavy and akward to hold)

  • 07.24.2009 6:33 PM PDT
Subject: Dual wielding- The solution {Diagram included}

All the weapons have a kill time of about 2 seconds at a moderately short range (about 1 and 1/2 Warthogs) therefore unless you're at medium to lng range guns like the PR & SMG can hold their own while bieng SW

  • 07.24.2009 7:09 PM PDT
Subject: Dual wielding- The solution
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Good idea! That way we can increase the power of Plasma Weapons ^^

  • 07.24.2009 7:42 PM PDT

I see what you are saying, but it could get annoying unless it was barely noticable.

Posted by: SMG SPECIALIST
I think if you moved a bit slower it would make sense (Weapons are kinda heavy and akward to hold)

  • 07.24.2009 8:08 PM PDT

Thank you? =P

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  • 07.24.2009 11:53 PM PDT

best idea

  • 08.04.2009 2:29 PM PDT

Thank you. I am glad people like it.

  • 08.05.2009 10:22 AM PDT
Subject: Dual wielding- The solution {Diagram included}

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Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
The only problem with a small weapon I would see is the Needler, since it tracks... so I think it should remain SW.


I would like the needler to be the covenant counterpart to the SMG and dual wieldable, but instead of the shooting like 7-9 needles into you opponent and having they all explode at once killing you near instantly, the needles should explode individualy, and have a slower bullet speed ( like Halo CE needle speed ), allowing slighty more needles to kill ( about 10-12 ) and wouldn't be overpowering oversields

  • 08.05.2009 11:11 AM PDT

Maybe a little faster than the Halo 1 needles, mostly because those were way too easy to avoid.

Posted by: ramenloverninja
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
The only problem with a small weapon I would see is the Needler, since it tracks... so I think it should remain SW.


I would like the needler to be the covenant counterpart to the SMG and dual wieldable, but instead of the shooting like 7-9 needles into you opponent and having they all explode at once killing you near instantly, the needles should explode individualy, and have a slower bullet speed ( like Halo CE needle speed ), allowing slighty more needles to kill ( about 10-12 ) and wouldn't be overpowering oversields

  • 08.05.2009 11:42 AM PDT

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Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
Maybe a little faster than the Halo 1 needles, mostly because those were way too easy to avoid.

Posted by: ramenloverninja
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
The only problem with a small weapon I would see is the Needler, since it tracks... so I think it should remain SW.


I would like the needler to be the covenant counterpart to the SMG and dual wieldable, but instead of the shooting like 7-9 needles into you opponent and having they all explode at once killing you near instantly, the needles should explode individualy, and have a slower bullet speed ( like Halo CE needle speed ), allowing slighty more needles to kill ( about 10-12 ) and wouldn't be overpowering oversields


Yea that would work the speed was just a reference, I don't speak in terms of actual speed and post weapon stats, I use something relative and commonly known

  • 08.05.2009 12:02 PM PDT

So do I. But that was a good idea you had with the needler. It is a hard weapon to balance, but you did a great job.

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Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
Maybe a little faster than the Halo 1 needles, mostly because those were way too easy to avoid.

Posted by: ramenloverninja
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
The only problem with a small weapon I would see is the Needler, since it tracks... so I think it should remain SW.


I would like the needler to be the covenant counterpart to the SMG and dual wieldable, but instead of the shooting like 7-9 needles into you opponent and having they all explode at once killing you near instantly, the needles should explode individualy, and have a slower bullet speed ( like Halo CE needle speed ), allowing slighty more needles to kill ( about 10-12 ) and wouldn't be overpowering oversields


Yea that would work the speed was just a reference, I don't speak in terms of actual speed and post weapon stats, I use something relative and commonly known

  • 08.05.2009 12:06 PM PDT
Subject: Dual wielding- The solution

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Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
So do I. But that was a good idea you had with the needler. It is a hard weapon to balance, but you did a great job.

Posted by: ramenloverninja
Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
Maybe a little faster than the Halo 1 needles, mostly because those were way too easy to avoid.

Posted by: ramenloverninja
Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
The only problem with a small weapon I would see is the Needler, since it tracks... so I think it should remain SW.


I would like the needler to be the covenant counterpart to the SMG and dual wieldable, but instead of the shooting like 7-9 needles into you opponent and having they all explode at once killing you near instantly, the needles should explode individualy, and have a slower bullet speed ( like Halo CE needle speed ), allowing slighty more needles to kill ( about 10-12 ) and wouldn't be overpowering oversields


Yea that would work the speed was just a reference, I don't speak in terms of actual speed and post weapon stats, I use something relative and commonly known


I'm glad you like it, I'm curently working on a 20m midrange window ( some where between 15m-35m ( that's curently hypothectical and a rough estimate ) ) where most of the weapons could kill each other in the same time frame, and was having trouble fitting duals into the spectum but with your idea I might be able to fit single wielded duals into the window ( thinking some where like 15m-25m max ), while dual wielded duals wouldn't even be capable of using the window.

[Edited on 08.05.2009 12:22 PM PDT]

  • 08.05.2009 12:22 PM PDT

I'm glad I could help

  • 08.05.2009 12:32 PM PDT
Subject: How to make dual wielding work.

NO NO NO NO! THIS IS HALO GUYS WE ARE NOT PLAYING CALL OF DUTY HERE! YOU WANT MORE REALISTIC GAME PLAY AND MORE RECOIL PLAY CALL OF DUTY. ADDING MORE RECOIL WILL TAKE THE FUTURISTIC EDGE OFF HALO AND PLUS SPARTAN IS SAID TO BE A LOT STRONGER THAN HUMANS=LESS RECOIL!!!!!!

sorry bout caps i was trying to get my point across!!

  • 08.05.2009 1:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: aidan123goy
NO NO NO NO! THIS IS HALO GUYS WE ARE NOT PLAYING CALL OF DUTY HERE! YOU WANT MORE REALISTIC GAME PLAY AND MORE RECOIL PLAY CALL OF DUTY. ADDING MORE RECOIL WILL TAKE THE FUTURISTIC EDGE OFF HALO AND PLUS SPARTAN IS SAID TO BE A LOT STRONGER THAN HUMANS=LESS RECOIL!!!!!!

sorry bout caps i was trying to get my point across!!


are you retarded, posting in all caps doesn't make people take you seriously, it looks like spam, try to construct sentences and form them into paragraphs and use some punctuation and just because you maybe stronger doesn't change PHYSICS ( thats appropirate use of caps )

  • 08.05.2009 1:39 PM PDT

Ramenloverninja, be nice now.

Posted by: aidan123goy
NO NO NO NO! THIS IS HALO GUYS WE ARE NOT PLAYING CALL OF DUTY HERE! YOU WANT MORE REALISTIC GAME PLAY AND MORE RECOIL PLAY CALL OF DUTY. ADDING MORE RECOIL WILL TAKE THE FUTURISTIC EDGE OFF HALO AND PLUS SPARTAN IS SAID TO BE A LOT STRONGER THAN HUMANS=LESS RECOIL!!!!!!

sorry bout caps i was trying to get my point across!!

The fact that Spartans can dual wield and humans can't already proves their strength. But nobody can hold two large weapons completely steady. No matter how strong you are.

And seriously, this isn't meant to be realistic, it is mean to be balanced.

  • 08.05.2009 2:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
Ramenloverninja, be nice now.

Posted by: aidan123goy
NO NO NO NO! THIS IS HALO GUYS WE ARE NOT PLAYING CALL OF DUTY HERE! YOU WANT MORE REALISTIC GAME PLAY AND MORE RECOIL PLAY CALL OF DUTY. ADDING MORE RECOIL WILL TAKE THE FUTURISTIC EDGE OFF HALO AND PLUS SPARTAN IS SAID TO BE A LOT STRONGER THAN HUMANS=LESS RECOIL!!!!!!

sorry bout caps i was trying to get my point across!!

The fact that Spartans can dual wield and humans can't already proves their strength. But nobody can hold two large weapons completely steady. No matter how strong you are.

And seriously, this isn't meant to be realistic, it is mean to be balanced.


I'm sorry aidan123goy you are not retarded, but this is for weapon balance the thing that made Halo CE great, and what needs to be fixed, and I respect your opinion but disagree.

  • 08.05.2009 2:13 PM PDT