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Subject: dare was a spartan! evidence inside:

That Foman guy freaking hates me.

i realise i posted this in the wrong forum- apologies.

ok im not trying to make a new point this is more of a question.
i dont use the reach forum much so if this has allready been covered i apologise : )

i was reading an article about how john forge was trained (i cant purchase the books here, its hard to find them.) and here is what it read.

At the age of 14, John underwent the dangerous process of SPARTAN-II Augmentation Procedures that caused most of the Spartan candidates to die, or be physically disabled. John was one of 33 Spartans who made it through the process unscathed, while the rest who could still operate were sent for jobs in the Office of Naval Intelligence. At only 14 years old, it is said that John had a body of an 18 year old Olympic athlete, the augmentation process gave the Spartans faster reflexes, greater strength, better eyesight and made their bones near unbreakable.

if dare was a failed spartan maybe that is why she has recon. she is an employee of ONI has a spartan helmet and is pointed out by a marine in on of the novels who doesnt recognise the helmet she is wearing : )

i dont know but i would like other peoples ideas on this.
: )
thanks a lot.
and please no flaming on people here. i cant stand the egotists here.



[Edited on 06.27.2009 3:35 AM PDT]

  • 06.27.2009 12:11 AM PDT

Posted by: Ushan
Because Muslims surgically implant organic bombs in their testicles, which in turn will be injected into women during sex, which will grow into BABY BOMBS!

Who said Recon was a Spartan helmet? Thats like saying that the ODST helmet was actually made for Spartans. Your theory fails.

[Edited on 06.27.2009 3:45 PM PDT]

  • 06.27.2009 12:19 AM PDT

That Foman guy freaking hates me.

recon is a spartan sized helmet and marines do not recognize it,
also if you read what i said i clearly stated it was more of a question.
you just proved nothing and didnt validate why this is untrue.
thanks for making an uninteresting and pointless respons making you're self look quite dumb.

  • 06.27.2009 12:24 AM PDT

John Forge and John the Spartan are 2 different people, and if Dare was a Spartan she would be 7 feet tall and have MJOLNIR Armour because any Spartan that was unable to be augmented died, so theres no such thing as a "failed" Spartan.

  • 06.27.2009 12:27 AM PDT
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The Spartans that were sent for positions in ONI were crippled and unfit for combat, which is precisely why they weren't kept as field operatives. DARE is clearly an ONI field operative, meaning she is definitely not a Spartan. And besides, if she was, she'd be a hell of a lot taller than the ODSTs had she gone through the augmentations at all.

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Posted by: Matty Mc Hatty
any Spartan that was unable to be augmented died, so theres no such thing as a "failed" Spartan.

That is incredibly false. There are several Spartans who were crippled yet remained alive and were sent to ONI for tac intelligence and other positions. At least one other Spartan lived out his life in a gel tank as well.

EDIT: Anyway, this thread is in the wrong forum. DARE is an ODST character, not a Reach character.

[Edited on 06.27.2009 12:29 AM PDT]

  • 06.27.2009 12:28 AM PDT

That Foman guy freaking hates me.

if she failed the training she would not have MAJONIR armour, as well as (im unsure about this but the paragraph reads) the rest who could still operate were sent for jobs in the Office of Naval Intelligence. so if she failed the spartan programme she could still have gone to the ONI.

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Posted by: ITUNDRABOYI
if she failed the training she would not have MAJONIR armour, as well as (im unsure about this but the paragraph reads) the rest who could still operate were sent for jobs in the Office of Naval Intelligence. so if she failed the spartan programme she could still have gone to the ONI.

As I already said, Spartans who were sent to ONI for desk jobs were unfit for combat. Dare is very obviously fit for combat, nor does she have any noticeable traits of an augmented Spartan.

  • 06.27.2009 12:31 AM PDT

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Posted by: Dream053
Posted by: ITUNDRABOYI
if she failed the training she would not have MAJONIR armour, as well as (im unsure about this but the paragraph reads) the rest who could still operate were sent for jobs in the Office of Naval Intelligence. so if she failed the spartan programme she could still have gone to the ONI.

As I already said, Spartans who were sent to ONI for desk jobs were unfit for combat. Dare is very obviously fit for combat, nor does she have any noticeable traits of an augmented Spartan.

well from what ive read some failed spartans could operate and went to ONI.
but i havent read the books and i'll accept you're post.
thanks for the correction : )
also, in the banner for reach you can plainly see that the spartan second from the right is female and smaller than the others by a pretty big margin : )
spartans 7ft- female spartan 6ft 5.11?
: )

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  • 06.27.2009 12:34 AM PDT

-blam!- the Free World!!!!

First off, this is the Reach thread. Dare was a spook, for the ONI database or something like that who collected and monitered intellegence. And anyone that survived the augmentation that was sent for ONI was handicapped(i.e. FHAJHAD), otherwise the unscaved survivors would be a Spartan in MJOLNIR armor. As far as I'm concerned, She is totally capable of fighting and is in ONI, meaning she isn't a spartan. Second, she isn't in full MJOLNIR armor, also meanig she isn't a spartan. Last, nowhere in the series does it mention a Spartan wearing Recon. Recon is just a helmet for wearing in halo 3.

  • 06.27.2009 12:41 AM PDT

The strongest Rivals are also the strongest allies.

"marine not reconizing the helmet"which book?

  • 06.27.2009 1:16 AM PDT

That Foman guy freaking hates me.

here is an article from an in depth theory on ODST before much was known about the game.
if you read close to the bottom of this article you will see a clip of the actual novel that has a femaleONI oficer and odst officers discussing her armour



hope this clears things up : )

http://blog.ascendantjustice.com/october-20-2552-part-i/

Posted by: BOB THE DOCTER
"marine not reconizing the helmet"which book?



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  • 06.27.2009 3:32 AM PDT

IM A LEGIT 16

Why do people insist on making theories when they couldn't be bothered to read the books?
If it was possible, I'd make a Reach Speculation forum for people that have read one or more of the relevant books...

It just doesn't make sense, sorry.

And that link doesn't clear up anything.

  • 06.27.2009 6:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: Matty Mc Hatty
John Forge and John the Spartan are 2 different people, and if Dare was a Spartan she would be 7 feet tall and have MJOLNIR Armour because any Spartan that was unable to be augmented died, so theres no such thing as a "failed" Spartan.
They didn't all die, some just got messed up.

  • 06.27.2009 6:38 AM PDT

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Bungie has already confirmed that she is indeed not a Spartan, at all. Just because she is wearing a Recon helmet doesn't mean that she is a failed attempt of an genetically engineered super human.

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  • 06.27.2009 7:23 AM PDT

Posted by: Dream053
The Spartans that were sent for positions in ONI were crippled and unfit for combat, which is precisely why they weren't kept as field operatives. DARE is clearly an ONI field operative, meaning she is definitely not a Spartan. And besides, if she was, she'd be a hell of a lot taller than the ODSTs had she gone through the augmentations at all.

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  • 06.27.2009 9:24 AM PDT

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That's why she's the size of a regular person, right? The people who work for ONI are all crippled and could not speak, but they were very intelligent due to the Spartans' mental education. One of them was Fajhad (sp?).

  • 06.27.2009 9:33 AM PDT

(;3=

you have a good theory

  • 06.27.2009 11:20 AM PDT

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John Forge from Halo Wars IS NOT THE MASTER CHEIF!

Sergeant John Forge died in a supernova at the end of halo Wars. twenty years before Halo 1.

Master Chief petty officer of the navy John 117 is alive at the end of Halo 3.

  • 06.27.2009 11:39 AM PDT

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Good idea. But doesn't this belong in the Halo 3: ODST forum?

  • 06.27.2009 2:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Arbiduck
John Forge from Halo Wars IS NOT THE MASTER CHEIF!

Sergeant John Forge died in a supernova at the end of halo Wars. twenty years before Halo 1.

Master Chief petty officer of the navy John 117 is alive at the end of Halo 3.
i think u are forgetting something. time travel. now listen up this is revolushonary theroy. master chef travel back in time after HALO3 and he go to halo wars. here he save sam but in process he give him his armor so he get out of truth and reconciliashun before blowing it up. in this process chef loses his armor. now in halo wars he have no armor. john forge is master chef. he activate the hyperdrive by the sun and it blows up. but in this process he make black hole and he travel in future 2 reach. here at reach he is master chef #2. while master chef #1 goto halo master chef #2 goto reach with the 300 spartens (who never die may i reminds u) and they destory the covenant on surface. but in this process they all die. and like in movie 300 the spartens all die. master chef is last 2 die like lioneyedis wen 10 000 000 jackels snipe him. and if u remember erlier spartens never die. so this open us up for HALO reach 2. 2 master chefs. 300 spartens. all on earth during HALO 2. i think u see my point. thank u very much for reading this.

  • 06.27.2009 2:23 PM PDT
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Dare is not a spartan. if she was a failed spartan, she would be in a wheelchair, more or less Steven Hawkings.

  • 06.27.2009 3:35 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tonoottu
John Forge isnt a spartan...................................
master chefs name is john. HALO3 had forge (master chef is in HALO3). they both obviously time traval. so i think i may have stumbled upan something big here. john forge is master chef #2 (always wonder who thet second sparten is in cooperateve mode).

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