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Subject: Would you like a Brute player model in Reach multiplayer?

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Poll: Would you like a Brute player model in Reach multiplayer?  [closed]
Yes.:  36%
(80 Votes)
I wouldn't use it, but yes.:  31%
(70 Votes)
No.:  33%
(75 Votes)
Total Votes: 225

I'm sure you guys remember the infamous threads in the Halo 3 forum some time ago requesting a brute option in multiplayer. While the idea wasn't totally unpopular, the general consensus was it couldn't happen for various reasons.

But by the looks of things, Reach will feature its own version of multiplayer, rather than just incorporating Halo 3's as ODST will. Why would it need a beta test if it's the same thing we have in Halo 3? So assuming it is all new, I guess Bungie will be adding new armours for Spartans and Elites (if they feature in the multiplayer, which I think is a safe bet), considering how obsessive the fanbase is about that type of thing. Why not add Brutes as a player model too, alongside Spartans and Elites? They are closer to Spartans in stance and build than Elites, so if anything they would make the game more balanced.

When requests for the implementation of brutes came before, they were met with the usual arguments from retards who couldn't be bothered to read the threads, and presumptuously concluded they would use the Halo 3 campaign model. "Too big", "no shields" and other such points were made.

Obviously the model would have to be changed to incorporate it into multiplayer. I suggest the following alterations:

-Scale the model to the size of a Spartan
-Give them regenerating shields, and remove armour disintegration
-Map them to a Spartan hitbox


In other words, this Brute player model would play exactly like a Spartan with a Brute "skin". So what do you think? Would you like a Brute model in multiplayer, alongside Spartans and Elites? How can more choice for customisation be a bad thing?

[Edited on 06.27.2009 9:52 AM PDT]

  • 06.27.2009 9:36 AM PDT

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I ask you this question, if halo 3 was basically the same as halo 2 why would it need a multiplayer beta ? Anyways i don't think it's necessary. It would turn into another whine fest because people think x player model is harder to hit than y, and so on and so forth. Halo should stay SPARTANs and elites.

  • 06.27.2009 9:44 AM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan 90210
I ask you this question, if halo 3 was basically the same as halo 2 why would it need a multiplayer beta ? Anyways i don't think it's necessary. It would turn into another whine fest because people think x player model is harder to hit than y, and so on and so forth. Halo should stay SPARTANs and elites.
They made major changes to Halo 3 multiplayer from Halo 2. Reach appears to have its own multiplayer, unlike ODST which simply incorporates Halo 3's.

If Bungie didn't do things simply because people might whine about it, they could never release another game.

  • 06.27.2009 9:49 AM PDT

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Posted by: Jeffers
But by the looks of things, Reach will feature a whole new version of multiplayer. Why would it need a beta test if it's the same thing we have in Halo 3?
Why did Halo 3 have a beta test if it's basically the same thing we have in Halo 2?

I wouldn't mind Brute (and Flood combat forms of Brutes, Spartans, Elites) scaled to the size of the Spartans, with regen shields, and the same strength/agility/animations/etc. as the Spartans and Elites.

  • 06.27.2009 9:49 AM PDT

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No.

  • 06.27.2009 9:54 AM PDT

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Posted by: Jeffers
Posted by: Spartan 90210
I ask you this question, if halo 3 was basically the same as halo 2 why would it need a multiplayer beta ? Anyways i don't think it's necessary. It would turn into another whine fest because people think x player model is harder to hit than y, and so on and so forth. Halo should stay SPARTANs and elites.
They made major changes to Halo 3 multiplayer from Halo 2. Reach appears to have its own multiplayer, unlike ODST which simply incorporates Halo 3's.

If Bungie didn't do things simply because people might whine about it, they could never release another game.
I don't quite see the major differences between the games. The addition of equipment certaintly didn't merit it's own beta. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to have it, just not in matchmaking. Like say some kind of variant of infection. Perhaps have several variants with different player models and such.

  • 06.27.2009 9:54 AM PDT

As much as I support new ideas, there is truly no point other for than machinima purposes.

  • 06.27.2009 9:57 AM PDT
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I'm not really bothered either way, I'd still probably use a spartan.

  • 06.27.2009 9:58 AM PDT

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Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
As much as I support new ideas, there is truly no point other for than machinima purposes.
Customization could also be argued, but i think i would have to agree here. It would just be adding a player model just for the sake of adding a player model. There's probably going to be enough customization as it is.

  • 06.27.2009 10:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
As much as I support new ideas, there is truly no point other for than machinima purposes.
What about aesthetic purposes and personal preference. Some people would say Elites are ugly and serve no purpose, but I see you using one.

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Posted by: Jeffers
Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
As much as I support new ideas, there is truly no point other for than machinima purposes.
What about aesthetic purposes and personal preference. Some people would say Elites are ugly and serve no purpose, but I see you using one.


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  • 06.27.2009 10:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: Jeffers
Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
As much as I support new ideas, there is truly no point other for than machinima purposes.
What about aesthetic purposes and personal preference. Some people would say Elites are ugly and serve no purpose, but I see you using one.
Perhaps he thinks differently ? Like i said above there will probably be enough customization as it is. Elites are much more visually appealing than brutes.

  • 06.27.2009 10:04 AM PDT

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Posted by: Spartan 90210
Posted by: Jeffers
Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
As much as I support new ideas, there is truly no point other for than machinima purposes.
What about aesthetic purposes and personal preference. Some people would say Elites are ugly and serve no purpose, but I see you using one.
Perhaps he thinks differently ? Like i said above there will probably be enough customization as it is. Elites are much more visually appealing than brutes.
That's just your opinion, and exactly my point. I think brutes look awesome, and there's a large group that agrees with me.

How can more choice ever be a bad thing? People are so desperate for more armour, and this is the same sort of deal.

  • 06.27.2009 10:10 AM PDT

(;3=

i would say why not have a brute model

  • 06.27.2009 11:07 AM PDT

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Posted by: Jeffers
But by the looks of things, Reach will feature a whole new version of multiplayer. Why would it need a beta test if it's the same thing we have in Halo 3?
Why did Halo 3 have a beta test if it's basically the same thing we have in Halo 2?

I wouldn't mind Brute (and Flood combat forms of Brutes, Spartans, Elites) scaled to the size of the Spartans, with regen shields, and the same strength/agility/animations/etc. as the Spartans and Elites.
Ummm... SPARTANs can't be infected

  • 06.27.2009 11:17 AM PDT

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Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz

Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: Jeffers
But by the looks of things, Reach will feature a whole new version of multiplayer. Why would it need a beta test if it's the same thing we have in Halo 3?
Why did Halo 3 have a beta test if it's basically the same thing we have in Halo 2?

I wouldn't mind Brute (and Flood combat forms of Brutes, Spartans, Elites) scaled to the size of the Spartans, with regen shields, and the same strength/agility/animations/etc. as the Spartans and Elites.


This pl0x.

  • 06.27.2009 11:26 AM PDT

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Sounds good, but Brutes actually shoot most weapons one handed. Only the heavy ones they hold with two hands.

So it would probably shoot an AR/BR one handed, almost like an uzi or something.

  • 06.27.2009 11:33 AM PDT

(;3=

Posted by: Arbiduck
Sounds good, but Brutes actually shoot most weapons one handed. Only the heavy ones they hold with two hands.

So it would probably shoot an AR/BR one handed, almost like an uzi or something.


yes but bungie would modify them like they did the elites.

  • 06.27.2009 11:38 AM PDT

Posted by: ElementalRunner

Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz

Posted by: Arbiduck
Sounds good, but Brutes actually shoot most weapons one handed. Only the heavy ones they hold with two hands.

So it would probably shoot an AR/BR one handed, almost like an uzi or something.


Actually, I saw a mod on Youtube (bad, I know, but I'm not the modder) where the guy was playing as a Brute on Halo 3 campaign. He was using a BR, and with both hands.

  • 06.27.2009 11:41 AM PDT

Posted by: ElementalRunner

Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz

Sorry! Double Post!

[Edited on 06.27.2009 11:44 AM PDT]

  • 06.27.2009 11:43 AM PDT

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The brutes would have to be scaled down ridiculously though or re-shaped into a slimmer design, also there armour would have to be changed abit, and permuations created. But since they wont be in gameplay (if Reach is based on the books) then this would be OK.

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  • 06.27.2009 12:14 PM PDT

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No.
What contribution!

On topic- I wouldn't mind it, anybody who says "no" is basically just denying more customisation options.

  • 06.27.2009 12:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: Jeffers
But by the looks of things, Reach will feature a whole new version of multiplayer. Why would it need a beta test if it's the same thing we have in Halo 3?
Why did Halo 3 have a beta test if it's basically the same thing we have in Halo 2?

I wouldn't mind Brute (and Flood combat forms of Brutes, Spartans, Elites) scaled to the size of the Spartans, with regen shields, and the same strength/agility/animations/etc. as the Spartans and Elites.
Ummm... SPARTANs can't be infected
Yes... they can, all it takes is a rupture in the Spartans armour and a single infection form.

  • 06.27.2009 12:18 PM PDT

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Wow you think a chaotic "Brute" should be in MultiPlayer? Sorry that would be only good for Machinima.

  • 06.27.2009 12:20 PM PDT

Posted by: ElementalRunner

Posted by: Commander Stroll
Still using a pump-action shotgun over 500 years in the future I see.

omg not realistic stop game production plz

Posted by: Rambo Stu
Posted by: Urine competent
No.
What contribution!

On topic- I wouldn't mind it, anybody who says "no" is basically just denying more customisation options.


This is what I've always thought! Brutes can be very easily adapted for fair MP (they're almost the same as Spartans/Elites) and they're an extra, cool option. Why not?

  • 06.27.2009 12:23 PM PDT